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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mane nak tegur..

hero baru lepas goreng malmsteen... gile kaw2 sampai Aman pun tak tahan larik kluar...
kitorang ni mampu pandang jer.. aura malmsteen tak hilang lagi waktu tu.. haha

overdrive tu belh compare dengan OD1 ker TS808?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
mane nak tegur..

hero baru lepas goreng malmsteen... gile kaw2 sampai Aman pun tak tahan larik kluar...
kitorang ni mampu pandang jer.. aura malmsteen tak hilang lagi waktu tu.. haha

overdrive tu belh compare dengan OD1 ker TS808?


Tak boleh compare la bro ETERNAL. Cool cat punya sound ada scooped sikit sebab pakai smd kot. Tapi antara pedal2 murah, cool cat la the best berbanding behringer.

KOZAM, aku pun dah beberapa kali tukar ni kejap transparent overdrive kejap Distortion. Sampai sudahnya aku tak beli2 lg. Ko beli distortion ko berapa? aku nak compare harga kat sini..
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coolcat takde la murah mane kot... better trus amek tubescreamer.. hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ye ke?

bukan ke cool cat punya harga dalam RM200 ke?

OD1 melampau mahal kalau ada org jual pun.
TS9 RM400, TS808 RM500..
Kalau nak murah.. Behringer TO800 hehe.. the best copy by behringer chip pun pakai RC4558 jugak.. tp still tone sucker sbb tak tru bypas..

Aku tak ingat dah dia pakai JRC4558 ke RC4558.. lupa terus dah bab2 ni. Ultraman boleh confirm.
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ye kot,, lebih kurang rege tu la..
tapi ko cakap pedal ni tak leh compare...

so pada pendapat ko mana lagi ok?

Cool Cat - rm200
TS9 - rm400

or pedal lain2?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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IZZI wrote:

Tak boleh compare la bro ETERNAL. Cool cat punya sound ada scooped sikit sebab pakai smd kot. Tapi antara pedal2 murah, cool cat la the best berbanding behringer.

KOZAM, aku pun dah beberapa kali tukar ni kejap transparent overdrive kejap Distortion. Sampai sudahnya aku tak beli2 lg. Ko beli distortion ko berapa? aku nak compare harga kat sini..


IZZI,

Aku pakai Cool Cat distortion,aku rasa distortion dia better kalau nk compare dgn high gain distortion yang lain.sound dia in the middle overdrive ngan distortion..yang penting harga tak sampi RM200.00,,and thru bypass
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject: Re: Soalan pasal pickups lagi...? Reply with quote



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deadzid wrote:
aku ade soalan pasal pickups ni...

apakah ukuran yg menentukan output bg sesuatu pickup?
mcm kat website duncan ade mention DC Resistance...
adakah lebih tinggi DC = lebih tinggi output?

tapi kengkadang confius...
contoh:

George Lynch Screamin' Demon - high output, tapi DC = 10k je
Original Parallel Axis - moderate output, tapi DC = 15.7k

so... mcm mana tu?



menjwb soalan Deadzid,

X sedmestinyer lebih tinggi nilai DCR maka lebih tinggi nilai output, contoh pickup HS4 DCR nyer lebih drp 20k,tp ouput x sampai 100mV..ada faktor lain mcm magnet type dgn coil winding factor..drp apa yg ko nak ni..ko nak pickup yg hot tapi output sederhana..ada sesapa bleh suggest type pickup mcmtuh?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
ye kot,, lebih kurang rege tu la..
tapi ko cakap pedal ni tak leh compare...

so pada pendapat ko mana lagi ok?

Cool Cat - rm200
TS9 - rm400

or pedal lain2?


pada aku antara dua tu, Ts9 lagi better in terms of tone signature. Tapi dia overpriced! Cool cat pulak guna smd.. dia punya sound details drop. Ada satu video dalam youtube, agak ketara quality sound ada drop bila engage pedal. Check Dolphin review kat youtube.

Aku rasa org akan pegi ke ts-9 sbb signature sound dia. Danelectro cool cat ni org pilih sebab dia murah, sound better dari pedalmurah yg lain dan true bypass.. tu aje aku rasa selling point dia.

Kozam,

Aku cancel la Cool cat distortion. Tone dia mmg sedap aku suka tp EQ dia scooped la, aku suka bunyi lepas kemudian aku yg scooped kan sendiri ikut taste aku.

Aku nak menabung utk OKKO DIABLO atau BB Preamp. Mau makan setahun kot menabung hahah..sebulan 100 inggit.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Soalan pasal pickups lagi...? Reply with quote

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Kozam wrote:
X sedmestinyer lebih tinggi nilai DCR maka lebih tinggi nilai output, contoh pickup HS4 DCR nyer lebih drp 20k,tp ouput x sampai 100mV..ada faktor lain mcm magnet type dgn coil winding factor..drp apa yg ko nak ni..ko nak pickup yg hot tapi output sederhana..ada sesapa bleh suggest type pickup mcmtuh?


hmm kozam gak bagus... kembali ke pangkal jalan.... hehehe
aku tanya pasal pickup, korang melalut sampai distortion lak..

hahaahampehhh.... Laughing

so any suggestion?
hot pickups with medium output?
based on apa yg aku baca, pickup BC Rich:
Neck pickup meters: 18.6 kOhms
Bridge pickup meters: 19.8 kOhms

magnets tak sure la pulak pakai apa...

kalau spec mcm ni sesuai tak dgn taste aku?
- Neck: 9.2 K
- Bridge: 16.2 K
- Magnet: Alnico V
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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16.2k tu... huiyo...
aku sampai 10k pun dah goyang,... haha

apsal ko tak pakai ceramic je deadzid.. aku rasa lagi sesuai ngan ko.. haha
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16.2k tu... huiyo...
aku sampai 10k pun dah goyang,... haha

hek eleh 16k pon nak goyang...
aku pakai 19k rilek je... (pickup BC Rich)
takde pon sehebat Hot Rails... Laughing


apa beza alnico vs ceramic?
explanation please...
aku haram tak tau...

pastu ade yg offer pickups utk "classic PAF tone"...
what the hell is that??
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deadzid wrote:
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16.2k tu... huiyo...
aku sampai 10k pun dah goyang,... haha

hek eleh 16k pon nak goyang...
aku pakai 19k rilek je... (pickup BC Rich)
takde pon sehebat Hot Rails... Laughing


apa beza alnico vs ceramic?
explanation please...
aku haram tak tau...

pastu ade yg offer pickups utk "classic PAF tone"...
what the hell is that??


yah...im oso wandering de same
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browndog2woof wrote:
yo zid,

14 to 16.. aku masih boleh accept lagi.. above tu dah monster.. that means, tak payah pedal pon JMP tu dah ganas.. (like X2N)

resistance

magnets type
alnico 1 to 5 pon dah banyak beza vs ceramic
alnico knowned for it good respond, in other words, low pull. while ceramic lebih mantap, tegap dan ketat.

coils round pon ada banyak beza, size diameter, material, parafin atau waxed. kalo enameled coated vs fomvar..

most new coils are enameled coated, while vintage guna fomvar.. firm dgn loose..


aku quote woof..
aku tak penah pakai alnico lagi.. maybe penah main gitar orang lain la..
yup.. ceramic sounds clear, tight.. dan kadang macam sound tajam...
so kalau mid type pickup+ceramic+hotoutput... adoi.. saket telinga aku...
aku lagi prefer bassy type+ceramic+hot output...
nanti aku nak try mid+alnico+mid output... huhu

wikipedia wrote:

Nowadays, the PAF is considered a vintage humbucker with relatively low output and soft, mellow tone. However, original Gibson PAFs are scarce and very expensive, so most major pickup manufacturers produce copies of original PAF design.


aku quote wiki je... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAF_%28pickup%29

tapi menurut YB jiro dari tanah jajahan Sonar...
PAF sound dapat dikeluarkan apabila 2 single coil dalam humbucker diaktifkan secara berasingan aka Paralel wiring...
- kesahihan belum dapat dipastikan...
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wahhh makin pening aku....
hmm dgn kata lain, aku kena carik:

- ceramic magnet
- enamel coated
- DC resistance 14k to 16k
- stay away from "PAF"

damn.. susah jugak..
baru ingat nak angkat PAF...
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haha...
aku lupa nak kasi ko try VR-Extreme ari tu.. huhuh..
mane tahu ko berkenan...
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