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| suicide-by-overdrive |
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| Bode wrote: |
Which aspect of soloing do you want to know? Topic soloing ni besar juger... |
Oret.how about if we start with scales & modes??I'm having difficulties to understand the 'mode' part.What is it all about?How do we apply it on solos??
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| Bode |
| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Whoa...topic ni ajer pun topic besar. Basically, a scale is an example, the major scale. Modes are derivatives of the scale.Actually, all this is hard to understand from reading jer, unless kita boleh sama sama duduk berdepan pegang gitar(i didnt understand from reading until someone showed me himself as well).
Ok...I think this is an excuse for me to start a new thread titled...'Soloing'...watch this space...nanti aku start the thread...I promise I will address this scales and modes issue. |
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| omarjamaludin |
| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:49 am Post subject: mode |
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well i know bode gonna start a thread on soloing tapi biar aku explain setakat mana yg aku tau pasal mode .. i've got some time to kill here in US so might as well write something...
first off you must know what a major scale ,which is the do re mi fa so la ti do .. it's supposed to be a very happy sounding scale as opposed to some of the modes and of course the minor scale ( which some ppl say sounds devilish )
the structure or progression for major scale goes like this
W W H W W W H
I know you are going 'what the helll ?? Ws and Hs? but let's take a few moment to understand what it means..
W W H W W W H
1) W stands for whole step which is basically going up/down two frets on the fretboard , like going from note C to D
2)H - half step is just going up/down one fret . like going from note E to F
so for sake of simplicity let's create our C major scale from the given pattern
when u apply the W W H W W W H pattern starting from C ,
you will get C major scale as shown below..
C -w- D -w- E -h- F -w- G -w- A -w- B -h- C
as you can see starting from C , go up whole step (W) you'll get D , go up another whole step you'll get a E , go up half-step (H) you'll get an F and so on according to the W W H W W W H pattern
so the major scales would be C D E F G A B C
you can try this one your guitar and it will give the that happy sounding doremi scale
the W W H W W W H progression is true for all major scales ..let say if you take F note .. the major scale would be
F-w- G -w- A -h- Bb -w- C -w- D -w- E -h- F
which gives us the F major scale - F G A Bb C D E F
so get a hold on this first :
1)what is major scale
2)it's note progression - the W W H W W W H
3) practice on your guitar
then esok aku citer lagi how all scales (modes , harmonic , melodic minor , etc) are derived from this major scale ... like the phrygian mode which is used by metallica alot in their metal days...now i'm guessing they're more into minor pentatonic / blues scale / dorian mode nowdays with their hard rock crap ..oops did i offend any metallica fans here ..my baddd... 
anyway for your guys information metallica bila buat konsert nowadays they wont play any songs from the load-reload album..instead they concentrate on older more metal songs ( pre- Load album) and some new ones from St anger..so go see their concert to those who can see them play ! i know this from their concert last year's summer..
ok lah ..salam dari michigan ..
omar
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| Bode |
| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Omar...well put bro..I wish you were around explaining this to me when I was starting out! Bole minta tolong tak? When I start the thread on Soloing, can I copy paste your explanation(aku bagi credit kat kau la)...then since you explained everything so well, why dont I put you in charge of the theoretical side of scales and modes? Aku tambah2 ler sikit2 kat mana aku bole... Aku tunggu green light ko sajer bro...kalau kau ok..we hit it off! So bro? Ok?
I will concentrate on the application of these scales and modes in real life, and you tackle the theory...amacam? |
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| omarjamaludin |
| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like a plan bro..
let's start the thread..hope we all can learn something from each other..
my knowledge pun takde lah byk sgt..just basic stuff like
modes scales , fifths , chord-scale relationship ..so i'm looking forward to learn new stuff from you..orait let's do this.. 
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| suicide-by-overdrive |
| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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omar,
bagus explanation ko tu.tapi part tu aku tau.
apa kata kita pergi lebih mendalam?????oret?
ceritalah apa2 yg ko tau pasal modes.
bode,
rasanya dah elok bukak thread baru.cant wait to hear how u apply those modes bro. 
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| x_hackerz |
| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject: Recording... |
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herm.. nampak nyer korang semua nih suka dgn recording kat studio laa yer.. aku suka gaks, tapi aku lebih suka live recording.. senang sikit keje.. lagi pun kalau kiter setup betul2, kualiti yg baik boleh diperolehi.. tapi kalau record kat studio nih lebih clean bunyi dia.. tapi kalau utk tujuan komersial / utk buat duit tuh okay laa..
mcm aku nih malas nak ambik project kat studio, aku lebih suka live music.. so far dah banyak ribu yg aku dapat dlm setahun nih..
ridzi, ko nih org lama ker? aku tgk ko nih banyak gaks knowledge dlm hal nih.. erm, ko kat mana? keje? jap.. umur ko baper ha??
omar, aku nyer lagu kene delete laa.. i-band's admin kata tuh bukan my original work.. hampeh tul.. biler buat sound elok2, tak nak percaya pulaks.. dia ingat aku cedok hasil kerja org lain.. ntah aper2 ntah..
anyway, good luck kat korang semua..
semoga berjaya..
bye!
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leks aa brader
sorry la pasal semalam tu. I've talked to u over the phone and explained to you why right. so hope everything is fine now?
but please do bear in mind that if u're uploading a cover song, just make sure u indicate that it's one and give credits where it's due. For your info, I don't encourage people to upload cover songs. U can do so at www.pub-bands.net. (i'm kidding  )
I just wanted to see people make music. Doesn't matter if he/she is a pro or a 13 years old who recorded his song using a walkman. as long as it's his/her own composition and preferably not signed under any MAJOR labels. Not everybody can have the luxury of having their songs recorded in a proper recording studio.. but most of them out there can definitely make music.
Hope u understand what we here are trying to feature here.
and please don't use the given space for adverts, other than release from your bands.. ie : your demo, EP, album..
Hopefully we can listen to your composition soon.
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| x_hackerz |
| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:26 pm Post subject: okay... |
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| bijanisme |
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hello ridzi!!
aku tengok ko mcm pro jerk..nak blajar boleh? aku tak tau sangat laa pasal nak EQ nih...lemah sesangat!! boleh tolong explain kan tak?
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ridzi, aku dah dengar lagu Impending yg kau upload tu... Ada part acoustic tu kau pakai gitar classical ke? Sound realistik giler! Camne boleh dapat sound camtu? Miking or simulate classical acoustic guitar sound?
By the way, nice shit you got there! Both of 'em!
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Deadzid...aku pakai Spanish guitar... pastu aku record pakai microphone dengan microphone AKG drum overhead mic....
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| Ridzi |
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| bijanisme wrote: | hello ridzi!!
aku tengok ko mcm pro jerk..nak blajar boleh? aku tak tau sangat laa pasal nak EQ nih...lemah sesangat!! boleh tolong explain kan tak? |
Boleh tolong...tapi apa dia yang ko nak EQ? Guitar? Bass? Drums?
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| deadzid |
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| Ridzi wrote: | | then my signal path is fed into my linear EQ or my 5 band parametric EQ (which ever EQ unit I feel like using) then into my BBE Sonic Maximizer-->Soundcard |
Ridzi, ko punya BBE Sonic Maximizer model yg mane satu? Aku surf kat website BBE Sound, ade a few model jugak la... so which one yg sesuai utk budget home recording? And which one are you currently using?
Don't forget to attach the picture also, ok?
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Deadzid,
Aku pakai BBE Sonic Mac 362 yang ni :-
Aku beli yang ini because dia sesuai untuk guitar plus dia rackmount (aku masih lagi building rack-system idaman aku)
Menatang ni memang versatile, ko boleh pakai live ataupun untuk recording. Cuma model yang aku pakai takde balanced inputs/outputs tu je. Lagi pun aku takleh nak justify beli model2 yang atas dia lagi...sebab its the same thing, cuma different I/O's sahaja.
Tapi sekarang ni BBE ada release model baru yang lebih compact dan memang design untuk guitarists, ni dia:- Model DI-1000 dan DI-100x
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