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| cheeseburger |
 Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: need to start a band for islamic song/nasheed, i play guitar |
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dear all,
i want to start/join a band for islamic songs and nasheeds. i play classic guitar.
hint for needed: other guitarist.. percussion and keyboard
im open to any suggestions..
please pm me or txt here if interested
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| eniQma |
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| Dominic Toretto |
| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:10 am Post subject: |
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eh? bukan alat muzik bertali tu haram ke?
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| jibraun |
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Haram kew?...biar betul...
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| cheeseburger |
| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry guys I should have said that I'm not Malaysian, So I don't speak Bahasa, but I can see that the discussion is about Haram or Halal? Am I right?
So i'm actually looking for some kind of Islamic songs or nasheed in both Arabic and Bahasa and maybe also English. I will do the Arabic part.
is anyone up ?
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| Jiro |
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| Dominic Toretto |
| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| cheeseburger wrote: | I'm sorry guys I should have said that I'm not Malaysian, So I don't speak Bahasa, but I can see that the discussion is about Haram or Halal? Am I right?
So i'm actually looking for some kind of Islamic songs or nasheed in both Arabic and Bahasa and maybe also English. I will do the Arabic part.
is anyone up ?
cheers. |
Sorry about the bahasa's usage. Just curious that u played a classic guitar for Islamic and Nasheed songs which I heard from my teacher at school, is haram due to some hadith prohibited the used of stringed instrument in islamic music. And also the music must be monotone (not too melodic and harmonic). I dunno where or what hadith did my teacher is referring to. Take example for most of Malaysian nasyeed group usually more concerns on the all-sing group band rather than playing instrument (like a boy band but singing islamic song instead). Even some of them are 100% doing acapella, not depends on BGM.
Nah what's important is the message of the song, not the instrument you play rite? For this kind of band, you can refer to Wali Band from Indonesia.
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| cheeseburger |
| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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It's ok guys..
well, as far as i know, if musical instrument is haram, it wouldn't matter whether it is used for islamic songs or normal songs, it would be haram all the way long.
anyway i also don't mind for new suggestions like only vocal songs, sounds nice also..
Yes i listened to wali band it is nice , are their songs islamic?
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| ETERNAL |
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| cheeseburger wrote: | It's ok guys..
well, as far as i know, if musical instrument is haram, it wouldn't matter whether it is used for islamic songs or normal songs, it would be haram all the way long.
anyway i also don't mind for new suggestions like only vocal songs, sounds nice also..
Yes i listened to wali band it is nice , are their songs islamic?
thanks guys.. |
i believe what they are trying to say that it is pretty inappropriate to preach when you are actually openly did a wrong thing. worst... a bad role model..
but if you are looking into mainstream arabic music which have a big positive factors and messages which related to islam... i guess it could be considered rather that using 'ISLAMIC' term as it may mislead other people's point of view...
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| strings instruments in islam received several views by muftis. they are those who held it haram, makruh and harus but the most popular and widely accepted is that it is harus. |
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| hafiz_suib |
| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: bro.may i join? |
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i'm vocalist plus composing songs.intend to diversify my band project!i got several songs my own composition.my idea is to bring fresh music in islamic way.current music with islamic lyrics.
sample of vocal : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqOfRZAdPUg
thansk bro. |
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| jack_classic |
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: fact |
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if someone said that kind of 'alat muzik bertali' is 'haram'. You can use keyboard to play sound like guitar,oud(gambus), violin, viola,cello, double bass, bass guitar and many 'bertali' instrument. So its not 'bertali,it is called electronic instrument..
what kind of fact that you find in Al- Quran said 'alat muzik bertali' is haram. Show me with chapter..Why don't you check on the 4 mazhab that we use around the world. There are many thoughts about Islam music in mazhab. |
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| Jiro |
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Fact 2 |
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| jack_classic wrote: | | why don't you check on Islam prophet history..Prophet Sulaiman is a vocalist on His era. Prophet Daud is a vocalist and Harp player..Harp is one of 'alat muzik bertali' standard orchestra instrument. So you'll say what Prophet Daud's doing is 'Haram"? |
sorry to interrupt..just curious...Islam establish in era of Nabi Muhammad SAW.. so i dont want to get confuse in between the day before Al-Quran was given and after...
Excuse me if i'm wrong, but it seems like you want to believe that music is halal. Think carefully and examine the evidence. The vast majority of scholars are agreed upon that music is haram. SO don't take the opinion of just one scholar.
Concerning the ayah:
“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]
The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40).
And ibn 'Abbas (ra) was amongst the most knowledgeable of the companions, and no scholar today can debate with his understanding of the Qur'an.
Read here for more info:
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=eng&txt
| Quote: | Listening to drums is not permissible, because they are among the musical instruments for which there is evidence that it is haraam to listen to them. In fact there is a text which specifically forbids the drum. Abu Dawood (3685) narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr that the Prophet of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade khamr (alcohol), gambling, drums and wine made from millet, and said: “All intoxicants are haraam.” Abu Dawood said: Wine made from millet is a drink made by the Abyssinians. The hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
Al-Bukhaari narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There will be among my ummah people who will regard adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments as permissible.”
This hadeeth indicates that all musical instruments are haraam, including the daff.
‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The daff is haraam, stringed instruments are haraam, drums are haraam and flutes are haraam. Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 10/222
But there are some ahaadeeth which indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in some circumstances, which are:
Eid, weddings, and when one who has been away returns.
The evidence is given below.
1 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) entered upon her and there were two girls with her during the days of Mina beating the daff, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was covering himself with his garment. Abu Bakr rebuked them, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) uncovered his face and said, “Leave them alone, O Abu Bakr, for these are the days of Eid.” That was during the days of Mina.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 944; Muslim, 892
2 – It was narrated that al-Rubayyi’ bint Mu’awwidh ibn ‘Afra’ said: “After the consummation of my marriage, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came and sat on my bed as far from me as you are sitting now, and our little girls started beating the daff and reciting verses mourning my father, who had been killed in the battle of Badr. One of them said, ‘Among us is a Prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow.’ On that the Prophet said, ‘Omit this (saying) and keep on saying the verses which you had been saying before.’”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4852).
3 – It was narrated that Buraydah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out on one of his military campaigns, and when he came back, a black slave woman came and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I vowed that if Allaah brought you back safe and sound, I would beat the daff before you and sing. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “If you vowed that, then do it, otherwise do not do it.’” So she started to beat the daff, and Abu Bakr came in whilst she was doing so. Then ‘Ali came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Uthmaan came in whilst she was beating the daff, then ‘Umar came in and she threw the daff beneath her and sat on it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “The Shaytaan is afraid of you, O ‘Umar. I was sitting and she was beating the daff, then Abu Bakr came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Ali came in when she was beating the daff; then ‘Uthmaan came in when she was beating the daff, but when you came in, O ‘Umar, she put the daff down.”
Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3690; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi, 2913.
These ahaadeeth indicate that it is permissible to beat the daff in these three situations. Apart from that, the principle remains that it is haraam. Some scholars made the matter broader and said that it is permissible to beat the daff when a child is born and when he is circumcised; others take the matter further and say that it is permissible on all occasions that are a cause for expressing joy, such as the recovery of a sick person and the like.
See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 38/169
Critically important for you to read the complete answer @:
When is it permissible to beat the daff?
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/20406
Source(s):
Also see:
Ruling on music, singing and dancing
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/5000
Ruling on attending ‘ardah (“folk music”) concerts on Eid and at weddings
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/85430/ |
...IF ANY OF US OR ORTHER WHO REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT RELIGIOUS POINT OF VIEW IN CERTAIN HUKUM IN ISLAM PLEASE DO ASK THE QUESTION AT PROPER ISLAMIC FORUM OR WEBSITE, AS I BELIEVE THAT ASKING THE QUESTION HERE ARE NOT THE BEST PLACE TO GET THE ANSWER AS THIS FORUM WAS NOT GUIDED BY A RESPECTIVE SCHOLAR IN ISLAMIC.
AND IF YOU WANT TO SHARE SOME EVIDENCE OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS TOPIC, PLEASE DO PROVIDE ONLY COPY AND PASTE STATEMENT WITH LINK AS WELL.. MISLEADING GOD'S WORD IS OBVIOUSLY HARAM.
For those of you who are trying to defend the permissibility of Music, I suggest you re-read the Hadith. It is clearly stated that we are to stay away from "doubtful" matters. Although I hardly consider this doubtful, for you people this may seem reasonable.
Volume 1, Book 2, Number 49:
Narrated An-Nu'man bin Bashir:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'Both legal and illegal things are evident but in between them there are doubtful (suspicious) things and most of the people have no knowledge about them. So whoever saves himself from these suspicious things saves his religion and his honor. And whoever indulges in these suspicious things is like a shepherd who grazes (his animals) near the Hima (private pasture) of someone else and at any moment he is liable to get in it. (O people!) Beware! Every king has a Hima and the Hima of Allah on the earth is His illegal (forbidden) things. Beware! There is a piece of flesh in the body if it becomes good (reformed) the whole body becomes good but if it gets spoilt the whole body gets spoilt and that is the heart.
After thorough research, If you are still in doubt about it, then stay away from it. Some people here want to make it Halal, because they can't seem to let go of their habits.
Argue all you want, you will have Allah to answer to when the day comes.
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