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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Tolong saya dengan memberi pandangan anda tentang.. Reply with quote



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Salam i-banders,

Saya nak beli sebuah pc,tp masih xtau lg yg mana menjadi pilihan,dalam dilema la ni kiranya..pastu semalam sya pergi ke Digital Mall saja2 survey computer,hp,dell,acer etc..and then sya terserempak dgn sebuah pc yg mg lari dr traditional PC..yg bertajuk Lenovo IdeaCentre B310..



ni plak spec nya

-Intel® Core™ i5-650 Processor (3.2Ghz with Turbo Boost up to 3.4GHz, 4MB Cache)
-Intel H55 Chipset
-Windows7 Home Premium (64-bit)
-2GB DDR3 SDRAM
-500GB SATA HDD(7200rpm)
-Dual Layer Multiburner Drive(DVD-RW)
-ATI Radeon HD5450 512MB Graphic
-21.5″ Full HD Widescreen Display(1920×1080)
-USB 2.0 x6, 6-in-1 Card reader, 1394port
-High Sensitivity Camera
-Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000,
-Wireless LAN 802.11n,

Harga : Rm2,499

Secara amnya,saya nak beli PC ni utk recording..tp stakat ni sya xberapa pasti spec minimum yg harus sya ada..dan ia bukanlah 100% utk sya je,wife sya pun nak pakai juga utk main game2 dia tu.. Razz

So,apa yg sya nampak ttg kebaikan (imo) Lenovo ni sgt2 menarik terutama dengan multi-touch screen dia tu,design dia,simple,all in 1,xda byk wire etc..tp sya xpasti plak tentang the bad side of it..maintenance etc tu sume..

Soalan saya:
-apa pandangan anda ttg produk ni?
-ape pro and con dia pada anda?
-boleh ke sya pakai produk ni utk buat home recording dgn spec2 tersebut?
-berbaloi ke dgn harganya?

Saya sgt memerlukan pandangan/komen anda pasal produk ni..hehe
sbb sya mcm dah terminat dgn bende ni plak..tp on the other hand masih risau takut membuat pilihan yg salah.. Confused plus sya bukan nya tau sgt pasal hardware2 komputer ni..hehe
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eniQma
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bagi saya, jika saudara membeli PC ini, sama lah seperti anda membeli iMac daripada Apple, tiada CPU, kelebihannya, mudah, kerana tak perlu mengusung CPU dan monitor secara berasingan.
Namun begitu untuk sebarang upgrade adalah terhad, jika iMac ada MAC centre untuk anda upgrade atau jual semula, dikhuatiri, pc lenovo ini tiada option sebegitu. itu adalah satu disadvantage bagi PC ini. jika ada centre untuk sebarang upgrade, saudara boleh lah membelinya. namun begitu untuk sebarang upgrade, kosnya agak tinggi kerana hardware yg digunakan amat berbeza, segalanya telah dicompress daripada PC biasa.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ooohh begitu..sya pun xpasti plak ttg upgrading etc ni..
sya tanya pada salesman tu dia kata mcm ram etc boleh upgrade kecuali graphic kad..

mungkin yg mcm bro ckp..boleh upgrade but hi kos je la..

ntahlah dlm dilema..tp suka sgt sbb touch screen tu yg buat dia +1.
dan sya rasa spec dia pun dh membolehkan sya utk buat/blaja recording2 ni kan?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hehe...boleh aje beli...kalau ikutkan spec tu mmg tak payah upgrade pon....huhu cuma utk future la..kot nak pakai lama...brg pc kan cpat berubah...
utk rekording ok tu..dah best tuu...lagi pon bukan utk rekording je kan? utk family juge...kan?
cuma harap tu, kalau ada masalah ape2, senang la proses n prosedure tu... kalau tak, letih menunggu...huhu

btw utk touchscreen tu sila buat research dulu...sbb itu part yg paling fragile... kalau ramai cakap ok...ok latu...kalau ramai yg thumbsdown...ermm
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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dari recording rasa nya takda masalah dari spec yg di nyata kan kecuali Audio Interface kene beli lain yg khas utk recording punya utk mengelak segala masalah seperti latency, driver, ASIO, sample-rate dll..


utk buat kerja sure no problem, utk main game pun no problem..

cuma tak pasti about product nih punya lifetime dia..tak pernah guna lagi, and tak pernah try research...tapi cuma risau tentang hardware punya lifetime as rasa benda nih compact ...and touchscreen tuh..heheh tak pasti la.. sbb touchscreen nih antara benda yg cepat hilang sense dan rosak..

tapi dari segi nak buat recording ke, main game, buat kerja..no problem Smile (as ada mention 64-bit, kene ensure software, driver, game, hardware support 64-bit juga)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ohh ok camtu..terima kasih..hmm btul gak tu kan..
touchscreen tu agak merisaukan jugak..xpe bg sya survey dulu and tgk after sales service mcm mana..

sound card next time sya carik..hehe beli yg ni dulu (modal dh abis hehe)

sbb skg ni sya ada pilihan either this one atau pun desktop biasa Aspire M3920-523X7 dengan spec yg lebih kurang:

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64bit)
Intel® Core™ i5 2300
(2.8GHz w/Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz / 6MB Cache)
Intel® H67 Express Chipset
4GB DDR3 (upgradable to 8GB)
1TB SATA2
DVD SuperMultiplus Writer
Multi-In-One
ATI Radeon™ HD 5570 1GB DDR3
High-Definition audio
Gigabit Ethernet

cuma harga yg ni extra rm139 je..


so dgn spec tu dh bleh la buat keje eh?yeyeh.. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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macam eniqma bagi tau, kalau beli yg branded jika berlaku ke'kong'an atau mengupdate hardware dimasa hadapan menjadi suatu masalah dan gile mahal....

apakata kalau beli/buat custom PC? amacam? senang nak update dan upgrade... custom PC bukan cap ayam pun kan...? tinggal lagi kena pandai tweak n kowtim harga je...

ini pengalaman aku je... kesian orang yg beli PC branded nih...Laptop or notebook lain crita la...

segala kesilapan harap dimaafin ya.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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National9V wrote:
macam eniqma bagi tau, kalau beli yg branded jika berlaku ke'kong'an atau mengupdate hardware dimasa hadapan menjadi suatu masalah dan gile mahal....

apakata kalau beli/buat custom PC? amacam? senang nak update dan upgrade... custom PC bukan cap ayam pun kan...? tinggal lagi kena pandai tweak n kowtim harga je...

ini pengalaman aku je... kesian orang yg beli PC branded nih...Laptop or notebook lain crita la...

segala kesilapan harap dimaafin ya.



betul tuh...tgk dari spec tuh mmg dah ok dah ...tapi dia dah over minimum which mean boleh save lagi byk duit kalau custom pc Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kalau nak beli benda 'compact' paling penting kena jaga heating issue...
pasal benda compact ni cepat panas dan kurang airflow..
sensitif, takleh letak tempat panas macam rumah jiro.. whahaaha

kalau dah panas tu... quad core pun boleh jadik pentium3...

bila dah ada hardware problem... mahal la nak repare.. so make sure ada warranty yang agak panjang... should be more than 3 years... pasal hardware selalu ada prob lepas 2-3 tahun...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
kalau nak beli benda 'compact' paling penting kena jaga heating issue...
pasal benda compact ni cepat panas dan kurang airflow..
sensitif, takleh letak tempat panas macam rumah jiro.. whahaaha

kalau dah panas tu... quad core pun boleh jadik pentium3...

bila dah ada hardware problem... mahal la nak repare.. so make sure ada warranty yang agak panjang... should be more than 3 years... pasal hardware selalu ada prob lepas 2-3 tahun...



betul tuh...so...jgn la guna benda compact nih...lagi lagi keluaran pertama dari Syarikat tuh...kita tak tahu apa akan terjadi.. Smile


**rumah aku panas dowh~
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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untuk spec tersebut, dah boleh sangat wat kerja2 rekoding ni..alangkan mixboyz guna Pentium 4 n still kicking

Ingat dua benda ni:
1. Teknologi komputer berkembang sangat cepat. maknanya, kalau rephrase balik ayat ni = harga cepat drop.
2. Ikut apa yang kita PERLU, bukan apa yang kita MAHU.

yang first tu maknanya, worth ke spend bajet pada teknologi itu pada harga tersebut?

yang second, worth ke ko beli komputer gaming high spec berharga rm10000, tapi ko tak guna pun untuk main game, tapi untuk menaip je? paling2 pun game angry bird..

kalau aku, aku sama dengan apa yang inchek bateri 9v cakap, kasik customizedkan je.

benda ni macam dunia gitar la jugak (dah ni forum muzik, kenalah relatekan sikit sebanyak yo tak? ngehehehe).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jiro wrote:
ETERNAL wrote:
kalau nak beli benda 'compact' paling penting kena jaga heating issue...
pasal benda compact ni cepat panas dan kurang airflow..
sensitif, takleh letak tempat panas macam rumah jiro.. whahaaha

kalau dah panas tu... quad core pun boleh jadik pentium3...

bila dah ada hardware problem... mahal la nak repare.. so make sure ada warranty yang agak panjang... should be more than 3 years... pasal hardware selalu ada prob lepas 2-3 tahun...



betul tuh...so...jgn la guna benda compact nih...lagi lagi keluaran pertama dari Syarikat tuh...kita tak tahu apa akan terjadi.. Smile


**rumah aku panas dowh~


stuju sgt...ini mcm produk awal dari lenovo...so jgn jadi tikus putih! huhuhu

tp kalau PC mix and match ni...tak dapat la yg secantik dan sekemas Lenovo nih...tp ape2 pon tepuk lah dada tanya lah isteri anda apa makanan faveret anda....haha eh tanyalah selera....haha

well ape pon polisi syarikat PC tak sama dengan polisi syarikat yg berjenama buah tu(customer servis mereka antara yg terbaik)...jadi bagi PC masalah akan timbul 2-3 tahun selepas anda memakainya... maka masa itu syarikat2 ini akan claim bahawa waranti anda telah tamat...tak kira lah syarikat penjual PC mana pon DOLL ke, AhSER ke...last2 poblem reper sendiri jer...kalau warannti lom tamat pon...sama juger(tak semua, tp ade jer yg merungut)...huhu
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ok2..thanks for the komen dan pandangan bernas anda semua..sp spec mg kompom dh boleh la tu kan..so setuju la..hehe

ok 1st skali..sya mg xreti la nak custom ni..sbb aritu kira2 mengikut list yg dpt dan mengikut apa yg sya nak dlm pc tu harga hardware je cecah rm1.8-1.9k..xmasuk monitor,software install etc (hehe sori ni bebual mg noob abis sbb mg sya xda knowledge ttg nak custom pc dan ini rough figure dlm pale otak sya je..dont shoot me..hehe)..mungkin boleh dpt i7 perhaps dgn harga rm2.5k?

2nd..if i'm the only who using it,mesti kompom yg power je..i dont really care about the look and features..so perhaps sya choose custom jugak walaupun xtau sgt haha..tp ni sbb kan wife sya terlibat sama dlm pembelian pc (1st pc utk kitaorg)..so she want a stylish,compact yet powerful (dia nak main game je pun) and sedap mata memandang..sbb tu kitaorg sudah bersetuju dgn Lenovo ni..

neway terima kasih byk2 ttg komen dan pandangan anda semua k Razz
tenkiu very much Smile

nti sya update once purchased Smile
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Smile yeah...apa pun better ikut kehendak isteri Smile dia happy, kamu pun happy nanti... jgn nak saving sgt.. its nothing wrong to spend for happiness yg boleh share bersama org tersayang Smile




**aku selalu buat camtu, supaya dia tak kacau bila aku beli pedal atau barang audio/guitar hehehe motto "you see nice, i buy it for you sayang, but dont pok pek pok pek when i buy something not nice for my self ok, muwah skit" ...hehehe
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jiro wrote:

**aku selalu buat camtu, supaya dia tak kacau bila aku beli pedal atau barang audio/guitar hehehe motto "you see nice, i buy it for you sayang, but dont pok pek pok pek when i buy something not nice for my self ok, muwah skit" ...hehehe


LOL....but its true! Wink
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