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| jaaroquai |
 Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:25 am Post subject: How To Start Home Recording |
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Hello warga warga i-bands,
Aku nak start home recording ni tapi aku start from scratch. so need your cooperation in giving me some advice and guidelines.
At the moment, aku takleh nak rekod apa apa. Dan tak punya apa apa.
So start from zero ok.
Okey..
First - what do I need? What are the tools? Which one is the average (yg cukup utk dapat sound yg memuaskan) ?
I know for sure that I need to get software like cakewalk and etc. How do I input the sound? Cables? Soundcard? etc..
Just to be able to start up and record a reasonable good sound.
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| okta |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| jaaroquai |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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yup memang dah banyak, tapi kebanyakan nyer teknikal stuff dan perkara yang dah terlalu dalam utk aku faham.
Sekarang ni untuk start up...apa yg perlu? |
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| MB |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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dude the possibilities are endless. perhaps you could be more specific to what you want to record and what do you require from your tools(what kind of editing, effects, processors, midi sequencing)??  
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| jaaroquai |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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aisehh..macam susah ye  . Serius no idea man. Wanted to record guitar and bass or maybe keyboard tracks. Then drum using the built-in tools.
The problem is I dont know where to start. But I know definitely that I need to get a pc first and some kind of music/home studio software. Is that sufficient enough to enable to me to start recording?
Or do I need additional tools such as the I/O device that I read in this thread. And I know that I need a good soundcard. Correct me if im wrong.
Just want to know the "standard package" to start. Thats it.
Preparation can prevent from getting/buying unnecessary stuff.. am i right? |
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| omarjamaludin |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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kalau setakat nak rekod gitar any sound card with a line in would do...then guitar tu just plug straight to the PC lah...kalau nak start miking guitar amps tu kena la beli mic , tube pre amp or a simple mixer ..tapi kalau nak rekod gitar je just cucuk je..preferably with a DI box or kalau ada POD lagi bagus..
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| pali |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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i recommend a pre amp dude for recordings. i'm even thinking about buying a POD.
for now, my recording setup is putting a very cheap mic infront of my amplifier speaker. the mic is connected to the soundcard (Soundblaster Live).
Pasal sound editing software, ada banyak pilihan but now i use cubase. dulu guna cool edit pro and cakewalk.
itu je la kot. oh and for your pc pastikan RAM at least 384 to 512M sebab memang banyak pakai memory.
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| jaaroquai |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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ok geng, thanks for the advice and guidelines.
Jadi sekarang apa yg perlu:
1. PC at least 512MB RAM
2. Sound card (Soundblaster Live as recommended by Pali)
3. Sound Editing Software (cakewalk/cubase..etc)
4. Mic
5. Instruments + Amps
6. Pre-Amp
Ini sahaja?
Soalan:
Pre Amp - yg mana??
Aku difahamkan DI box utk balance kan sound yg tak balance. Aku baca dalam thread ni ada sorang ni kata tak perlu pakai. Betul ker?
POD tu apa? Apa fungsi dia? |
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| pali |
| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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aku rasa lagi baik cari soundcard yang lagi elok. soundblaster yang aku pakai ni versi murah. cuba ko tanya ridzi pasal soundcard ni. dia lagi expert.
tak salah aku ni, POD ni pre amp la. kalau ko dah guna pre amp nak buat recording, takyah pakai mic pun boleh. ko cucuk terus je gitar ke pod. pod tu pulak cucuk terus kat soundcard. pre amp ni macam amp simulator la, boleh dapatkan sound2 yang dikehendaki macam sound amp marshall, etc. ni pun ko boleh tanya ridzi sebab dia pun guna pod ni dalam recordings dia.
pendek kata, apa2 pun ko tanyalah ridzi sebab dia paling pakar bab recording guna pc ni.
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| pali wrote: | | pendek kata, apa2 pun ko tanyalah ridzi sebab dia paling pakar bab recording guna pc ni. |
hahah tapi masalah nya tuan Ridzi kita susah nak dihubungi buat masa ini.. sila cuba sebentar lagi..
anyway kalau ko nak budget punya setup mcm aku, well here goes..
- PC - Pentium II 400Mhz - 128MB SDRAM - sufficient hardisk space...
- Any 128-bit soundcard with line-in will do... i use Yamaha TerraSound, mcm pali punya pon ok gak sebenarnya..
- Sonic Foundry's Sound Forge (recording + editing) + Vegas Pro (mixing) and Guitar-Pro 4 (drum programming)
- musical instruments + cables of course...
- amplifier + mic (optional)
and there u have it.. ini la setup yg aku pakai dari tahun 1999 hingga sekarang.. ok je hahaha kalau nak pakai teknologi terkini banyak nak kena upgrade, cubase la, ram la, processor, di-box, amp simulator, etc.. hish banyak modal tuh!
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| MB |
| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| jaaroquai wrote: | ok geng, thanks for the advice and guidelines.
Soalan:
Pre Amp - yg mana??
Aku difahamkan DI box utk balance kan sound yg tak balance. Aku baca dalam thread ni ada sorang ni kata tak perlu pakai. Betul ker?
POD tu apa? Apa fungsi dia? |
pre amp - converts a specific signal to a common line level. example: mic pre amp amplifies microphone signal. Most soundcards that are designed for recording purposes would have a built in mic pre, which normally include phantom powering for using condencer microphone.
di - basic function: convert impedance. You need one of these to hook up your guitar to a mic pre-amp. Guitar outputs hich impedance current and di boxes lowers it down to an acceptable level. At the same time di box also convert the signal into a balance signal. Some pre-amp would already have a built in di, commonly labelled as instrument input.
line 6 pod - it's a multifunctioning box which main purpose is to simulate the sound of famous guitar amps through convolution technique. It's pretty straight forward to use.... just hook up your guitar through it into your soundcard and you're pretty much set up.
hope that helps
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
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aku rase utk permulaan tak yah pakai preamp/di pun takpe... hehe!! banyak free plugin skang yg bley convert ke line level & bagi sound yg bagus.. hehe!!!
suggest:
> amplitube
> guitar rig
> revalver live
> greenmachine
sume nih ko bley dpt free kat internet... download pakai limewire ... hehe!!!
p/s: sorry kalau dah ade org post bende nih..
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:41 am Post subject: |
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hah takyah aku nak jawab lagi dah...hehehe pandai anak2 murid aku nihhh....
For beginners aku rekemen
PC with 512 RAM atleast
Soundcard with ASIO 2.0 support i.e Audigy
Cubase SX 2.0 as your recording suite and sequencer
A vst sampler to go with Cubase i.e Battery VST to create drum tracks (dont forget you will need drum samples to load in your sampler)
VST plugins seperti AMplitube, Guitar Rig (VST preamp for guitar) takyah beli hardware. OR hardware guitar preamp seperti Behringer V-amp atau Line 6 POD
Cool Edit Pro as your wave editor (aku pung jarang buat wave manipulation but it there if i need it)
MIDI keyboard (kalau nak pakai keyboard sounds) kena ade keyboard VST pulak kalau nak pakai ni
and lots and lots of patience 
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| IZZI |
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