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| gapster |
 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject: which technique you find it most difficult for you? |
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have your say ..maybe we can learn from one another 
i will start first ..legato  |
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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for me String skipping sebab requirement utk string skipping ialah alternate picking..
Anyway, semua teknik susah pada aku kalau tak cukup praktis.. kena praktis lebih..
sebab tu aku more to layan feel je.. main pentatonic biasa je pun dah puas..hehehe..
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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tambahan bile dah tension sgt praktis kan... tuh yg dok layan feel jek main gitar tuh.. haha!!
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| Bode |
| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Semua susah...  |
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: |
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ape yg susah nye doc... semua lagu ang lipat gulung2.. hehe!!! taknak bukak kelas gitar ke doc??? hehe..
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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haa aku sokong.. tapi buat la murah dari si Aman tu.. aku rasa kalau bro bode ni ajar.. mesti student cepat faham.. ko tgk la cara dia komen orang mcm mana.. bagus sungguh.. Doktor mmg mcm tu la aku rasa.. well organized.
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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student cepat paham pasal ko tgk la avatar die izuan ... kan ganas & garang tuh ... hehe!!! jgn marah doc!!
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| Bode |
| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| izuanhafez wrote: | | requirement utk string skipping ialah alternate picking.. |
Not necessarily bro...legato and tapping combine dgn string skipping pun boley kan? |
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| Bode |
| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| izuanhafez wrote: | | haa aku sokong.. tapi buat la murah dari si Aman tu.. aku rasa kalau bro bode ni ajar.. mesti student cepat faham.. ko tgk la cara dia komen orang mcm mana.. bagus sungguh.. Doktor mmg mcm tu la aku rasa.. well organized. |
Tapi aku rasa harga kelas Aman tu reasonable la, sebab dia siap prepare tablature dan backing track untuk practice lagi...semua tu memang mengambil masa yang cukup banyak untuk prepare. And of course dia sendiri memang main dasat...memang patut jadi Jedi master!
As for me, I don't think I'm fit to teach the technical aspects of guitar playing because my technique is ALL WRONG. I learned the guitar without a teacher, and at the time of my learning, I had to totally learn solos by transcribing from ear alone. There were no tablatures, no internet (we're talking about 1984 here!). So, my technique is incorrect. By the time I got to watching instructional videos by Richie Kotzen/Paul Gilbert etc. etc., I realised my mistakes, but unfortunately my guitar technique is all too late for correction. All the bad habits have stuck for good and impossible to quit. See, when you’re supposed to alternate pick, I sweep…and when you’re supposed sweep, I string skip etc. etc. Of course I can start all over again, but I don't have the time and patience for that. In the early 90’s, I discussed this problem with my friend Man Keedal about this and he told me to worry about the final result and not the technique. “Tak kisah macam mana engkau main, janji bunyi dia betul (It’s not how you do it, but as long as it sounds right). Tengoklah aku Bode, aku ni lagi…,main gitar terbalik!!!”
So after getting that pearl of wisdom from Man, I sought to improve my present technique rather than get rid of it and start from scratch. In a way, it was a slight advantage to a certain degree when it comes to getting my own personal style. I wanted to copy my heroes, but due to my wrong technique, I couldn’t do it. But I got to develop my own personal technique for executing my ideas. It is wrong, but at least it’s my own. I learn from everybody…even from beginners! I’ve stolen a lot of tricks from young beginners learning from me…I stole it, and twisted it a bit to fit my needs. I think it’s the same story for a lot of accomplished guitarists as well. For instance, Edward Van Halen had Eric Clapton as his textbook, but he twisted whatever he stole into his own thing. Not that I can be as original as Eddie Van Halen, but that’s my dream and try to be a bit different from others. At the moment, I think I still sound too much like I’m copying my guitar heroes, but what I play now comes totally from my heart and my soul…so if it does sound like somebody else, I don’t really wanna worry too much about it. I’ve found my voice and my style on the guitar, and whether you like it or hate it, this is it.
To be frank I can tell everyone everything I know about the guitar in just 15 minutes…I don’t really know much. My 2 articles that I wrote in the teaching article section pretty much sums up everything I know!
I think people like Aman, Monizag, Izuan etc. are more qualified to teach the correct techniques on playing the guitar and I look forward to learning from them. |
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| gapster |
| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:05 am Post subject: |
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well..i think technique is something you can do which ever way you want ..
as long as you get it clean and you hit the right notes..
there is no right or wrong..if not..where does innovative comes?
for example..sweep picking..
i think most of us sweeps by moving our wrist ..right?
i have friends who sweeps by moving thier elbow and they can achieve the same speed ..
becker use finger per finger for most of his sweeps in appregio..
well some of us are using the easier way..bar the fret + roll on to the side ..
yeah so i will agree with bode ..its our own style!
but i think basic techniques such as holding chords,palm muting etc ..are strictly "have to get it right"
just my opinion..cheers |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Bode wrote: | | izuanhafez wrote: | | requirement utk string skipping ialah alternate picking.. |
Not necessarily bro...legato and tapping combine dgn string skipping pun boley kan? |
eheheh yes.. not necessarily..
| Bode wrote: | | I think people like Aman, Monizag, Izuan etc. are more qualified to teach the correct techniques on playing the guitar and I look forward to learning from them. |
Sebenarnya aku pun tak tau apa yang betul apa yang salah dalam teknik guitar playing ni.. kalau dah namanya 'teknik' maksudnya ialah 'cara' atau 'kaedah' dan mestilah ia ada bermacam2 dan tak salah kalau kita buat satu teknik baru. tak kira lah dalam apa perkara pun tak semestinya dalam main guitar. yang penting hasil outputnya 'betul'..'betul' ni pun sebenarnya bergantung pada apa yang kita mahu.. Its not limited.
Sebab tu guitar punya tutorial video ni ada banyak.. macam2 teknik. Kat situ dah boleh tau yang teknik ni tak ada istilah salah. So, aku mmg setuju sangat dgn apa yang bro bode cakap tu... Conclusion: dont limit ourself.. yang penting sembahyang jgn tinggal(Bagi mereka yang agamanya ada sembahyang shj) haa yg ni kena ikut guideline lah..huhuuu...
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| GryMlock |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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wahahahahahah.. hilang tensen aku..
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| Bode |
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| gapster wrote: | well..i think technique is something you can do which ever way you want ..
as long as you get it clean and you hit the right notes..
there is no right or wrong..if not..where does innovative comes?
for example..sweep picking..
i think most of us sweeps by moving our wrist ..right?
i have friends who sweeps by moving thier elbow and they can achieve the same speed ..
becker use finger per finger for most of his sweeps in appregio..
well some of us are using the easier way..bar the fret + roll on to the side ..
yeah so i will agree with bode ..its our own style! |
| izuanhafez wrote: | Sebenarnya aku pun tak tau apa yang betul apa yang salah dalam teknik guitar playing ni.. kalau dah namanya 'teknik' maksudnya ialah 'cara' atau 'kaedah' dan mestilah ia ada bermacam2 dan tak salah kalau kita buat satu teknik baru. tak kira lah dalam apa perkara pun tak semestinya dalam main guitar. yang penting hasil outputnya 'betul'..'betul' ni pun sebenarnya bergantung pada apa yang kita mahu.. Its not limited.
Sebab tu guitar punya tutorial video ni ada banyak.. macam2 teknik. Kat situ dah boleh tau yang teknik ni tak ada istilah salah. So, aku mmg setuju sangat dgn apa yang bro bode cakap tu... Conclusion: dont limit ourself.. yang penting sembahyang jgn tinggal(Bagi mereka yang agamanya ada sembahyang shj) haa yg ni kena ikut guideline lah..huhuuu... |
Spot on dudes!
Just like what Billy Sheehan said..."You gotta learn the rules before you break them" |
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