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delas_amakir
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Guitar newb...saya budak baru belajar..:p Reply with quote



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salam semua...

saya ni baru je blaja main gitar...ada la sebijik kapok yg saya belasah buat main..itupon neck nye kurang mesra alam yg agak besau dan tali yg keras bangat(tapi dah tukau dengan tali gitar karen psl suka main tune standard.so..lembut skit...hehehe...)

sblum ni ade gak saya tengok scaling yg ntah saya x brapa paham dan x tau apa aplikasinya...so anyone...bole ke explain what is it for and how does it applied to your play?

one more thing...nak tanya...saya nak beli pickup gitar kapok...so which one yg agak sesuai utk beginner cam saya nih? maksud nye...rega x le mahal tapi bunyi pon ok le...utk main suka2 je...and bole ke kalu pickup tu dicucuk ke sound card pc...for example creative sb live...then i use any guitar fx software to produce other sound from my kapok(disto, overdrive.etc,etc)?...if i could...maybe the sound its not that really encouraging..but i guess for me it's enuff already..just for fun...

that's all for now...tq...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Scaling penting untuk main solo. Kalau tak reti scaling memang susah/hancur main solo. Scaling gak bleh gune untuk reka lagu. Scaling ni mcm "feel" untuk lagu, mcm blues, pentatonic... (hua hua, xtau le org phm ke x ape aku explain ni Razz)

Hmmm... effect utk kapok? lagi baik pakai effect kat gitar letrik... buat mase ni aku xpenah lagi tgk org gune effect kat acoustic. ade ke?
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helos...
welcome to ibands..
pasal scale2 tu..basically it helps you to goreng over a chord progression..a basic basic example is bila orang main C major chord , you can goreng with C major Scale..kalau nak tau pasal scale ngan lebih lanjut sila ke section artikel
http://www.i-bands.net/forum/cms_articles.php

click under category music 101..start baca apa tu major scale dulu.. hope this helps! kalau tak paham boleh tanya...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanx for the explanation guys...

for the effect i means that...like i saw hetfield playing an accoustic in S&M(nothing else matter)...is that an accoustic?...last part of the song i heard that guitar sound turn to be an electric one ...can an accoustic guitar make sound like an electric...? just my curiosity...
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aku xtgk habis DVD tu... psl tgk kat kedai Razz... tapi yerp... mase mule2 lagu tu die pakai acoustic... time solo tu aku rase die tukar ke electric guitar
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Guitar newb...saya budak baru belajar..:p Reply with quote

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delas_amakir wrote:
salam semua...

saya ni baru je blaja main gitar...ada la sebijik kapok yg saya belasah buat main..itupon neck nye kurang mesra alam yg agak besau dan tali yg keras bangat(tapi dah tukau dengan tali gitar karen psl suka main tune standard.so..lembut skit...hehehe...)

sblum ni ade gak saya tengok scaling yg ntah saya x brapa paham dan x tau apa aplikasinya...so anyone...bole ke explain what is it for and how does it applied to your play?

one more thing...nak tanya...saya nak beli pickup gitar kapok...so which one yg agak sesuai utk beginner cam saya nih? maksud nye...rega x le mahal tapi bunyi pon ok le...utk main suka2 je...and bole ke kalu pickup tu dicucuk ke sound card pc...for example creative sb live...then i use any guitar fx software to produce other sound from my kapok(disto, overdrive.etc,etc)?...if i could...maybe the sound its not that really encouraging..but i guess for me it's enuff already..just for fun...

that's all for now...tq...


Pada beli pick-up,.. baik beli je gitar elektrik,.. yg murah banyak dipasaran sekaran -->Squier, Samick,Falcon,Vantage, Behringer.....
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delas_amakir wrote:
thanx for the explanation guys...

for the effect i means that...like i saw hetfield playing an accoustic in S&M(nothing else matter)...is that an accoustic?...last part of the song i heard that guitar sound turn to be an electric one ...can an accoustic guitar make sound like an electric...? just my curiosity...


Baik beli gitar elektrik terus laa bro,.. tak syok pakai distortion kat gitar akustik,... pelik,... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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hehe...bukan x mau beli...hati mmg meronta-ronta tapi ada benda kena dahulukan dulu...itu aje... Smile so...pakai je la ape yg ade....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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kalau dok kat jb.. boleh dtg skudai jumpa aku.. aku boleh ajar basic utk solo dan apa gunanya scaling tu semua..
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aku pun nak pegi jb la ini mcm ..bila nak turun KL abg izuan he he
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ahhh.. omar dah otai.. kang silap2 aku yg berguru mode dgn ko pulak hehe...
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hehe aku no hal ajar modes..itu basic music theory..tapi benda2 gitar den tak reti..cam alternatve picking etc...
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alternate picking tak boleh nak ajar.. itu kena praktis sendiri.. hehehe...

omar.. nanati turun bentley la kita jumpa kat bentley.. guitar pun banyak katsitu.. pilih je mana2.. muahahhaha
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Guitar newb...saya budak baru belajar..:p Reply with quote



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delas_amakir wrote:
salam semua...

...ada la sebijik kapok yg saya belasah buat main..itupon neck nye kurang mesra alam

sblum ni ade gak saya tengok scaling yg ntah saya x brapa paham dan x tau apa aplikasinya...so anyone...bole ke explain what is it for and how does it applied to your play?

one more thing...nak tanya...saya nak beli pickup gitar kapok...so which one yg agak sesuai utk beginner cam saya nih? maksud nye...rega x le mahal tapi bunyi pon ok le...utk main suka2 je...and bole ke kalu pickup tu dicucuk ke sound card pc...for example creative sb live...then i use any guitar fx software to produce other sound from my kapok(disto, overdrive.etc,etc)?...if i could...maybe the sound its not that really encouraging..but i guess for me it's enuff already..just for fun...

that's all for now...tq...


delas,
(1) kalau neck gitar kapok tu dah tak mesra alam, kemungkinan besar nak solo pun berat jari2 nak pikul... jangan siksa diri... guitar/musik untuk enjoy dan be creative, bukan penyiksaan. dari ko punya email tu, nampak gaya macam ada interest besar nak main eletrik gak. oleh itu, sepertikata member2 lain, good idea juga ko consider beli guitar elektrik...
(2) tapi kalau nak beli pickup untuk kapok tu juga, ada, dalam $100. tapi ni kualiti yg tak ngam sangat, jadi kalau ko punya gitar dah susah nak main + bunyi tak best + masuk soundcard = rasanya tak worth it.
aku pernah try zaman2 muda dulu, sebab bajet terhad, belik kapok & pickup, lepastu lalu menerusi effects pedal (distortion) masuk mini compo. Bunyinya sungguh tidak memberangsangkan.... memudharatkan semangat untuk bermain. dah la habis duit beli pick up & pedal last2 bajet lari jugak beli cheap electric guitar, jangan.....
(3) banyak software, website/free download yang boleh tunjuk ajar mengenai jenis2 scaling - yang common macam pentatonic tu, yg less common macam mixolydian, phrygian etc etc. walaupun definisi amnya untuk 'solo', tapi macam 'chords' gak, semuanya untuk expresi-diri.
(4) cara nak guna scaling2 ni? ha... itu sama macam "ada kereta, nak pergi mana?". jawapannya, "ikut suka". once dah tahu basic scaling tu, boleh la 'solo' diatas/tanpa backing music/chord, tapi hati2, kadang2 jalanraya tu 'no entry' i.e. silap scaling, solo tu boleh berbunyi 'sumbang'.
ni semua secara AM nya. once ko dah lebih memahami, tanya je kat forum2 ni... banyak brader2 yang hebat2 - izuan, ery, omar, doc.Bode etc, yang boleh share dari segi teori & praktikal.

Selamat maju jaya.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kapok -> pickup -> soundcard???

rase nyer tak bleh...
output dari pickup kan ker kecik??
maybe sound dier slow jer...
kena pakai amp gak

kalau pickup tuh pakai external power tak tahu la plak...

pickup akustik paling murah rm20++ rasenyer



aku pnah wat bende alah cenggini waktu time jahill dulu (time baru first time pegang gitar)

kapok -> pickup rm30 -> DS-1 -> amp -> Mic -> PC

sample - Flanger (proudly using fender strings)

http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/download.php?band_id=2139&song_id=5136&mode=song_hifi
http://www.i-bands.net/audiovault/play.php?band_id=2139&song_id=5136&mode=song_hifi

sound ok la bagi beginner

tapi baik simpan jer duit beli gitar letrik
betul cakap diorang
gitar letrik pun dah murah
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