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kalium
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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totziens wrote:
I dunno what language I am good at....the rest of the languages I know are dead/half dead (i.e. Powerbuilder, SQL Windows/Centura, etc). Dealed with both UNIX and Windows application in my life time career....so what???


As long as you have good software engineering skills and good fundamentalls in algorithmic design, what language you deploy in should be trivial. Just need to RTFM (read the fucking manual)

Learning a new language is generally acquiring new syntax and figuring out whether your desired functionality has been incorporated/prebuilt or if you need to construct from primitives.

Came in from FORTRAN 77 (on punch cards), went to interpretive BASIC, PASCAL, Java, some C++ then VB.

FYI, I only code in VB and VBA these days, manage to get most of the shit I need from that.

Lets have a chat when we meet up next.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmm maybe wanna take up some other profession? be a cook ke...take up new part time mba or degree? enhance your marketability to the employer?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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no more studying.....very very takut exam....Very Happy

VB is easy to pick up but the advance one I dunno lah.....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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study sendiri jek Siang. u don't need a degree for every single thing hehe. lagi pun.. programming ni.. for every new language.. just kena tau dia punya syntax and build in functions saja.. lain2 lebih kurang sama saja.. macam abang Rafil cakap tu. ......hehe Fortran generation.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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totziens
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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eh..huzai...pasal apa muka pucat dlm gambar?? macam Michael Jackson...haha...bulan puasa ke??

Ya ya....I agree...that's why I move from different language in every company I work too....memang boleh belajar punya
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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totziens
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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no, I sit back..have my green tea (the last cigarette was taken by Rafil) and record something in wav file for Huzai...hahaha
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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GryMlock wrote:
Fortran generation.


A free beverage of choice at the any 360 show to the first person who can explain how this works.

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kalium
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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totziens wrote:
no more studying.....very very takut exam....Very Happy

VB is easy to pick up but the advance one I dunno lah.....


No need to study. Just Hack.

The MS intellisense function reduces a lot of syntax/object hierarchy memorization.

If that fails, there's F1 help with examples.

If that fails, there's a shit load of books & manuals.

If that fails, there's the MSDeveloper Network Knowledge Base.

If that fails, I generally call up Microsoft support, yell at them for half and hour, regroup then devise a workaround.

FYI I haven't gotten any viable solutions from MS Support but after I yell at them, I get inspired to figure out workarounds. They're very polite and take abuse quite well.

BTW, I only started dickin' around bject oriented programming in my early 30's prior to that it was all procedural shit and data structures.

So it's never too late to shift your paradigms. All you need is a dark room, strong coffee and lots of sugar candy (I prefer Kopiko) for a coding rush.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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My first prog language is object oriented one in the working environment.

The problem now is XML lah, Java lah, all the internet technology......
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wow...
otai-otai programming berborak sakan...
hahaha...

language ape derang yang pakai untuk program machines & all the physical stuffs???

to bad..
i'm so worried thats no jobs for IT people these days
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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YES! i am taller than Totzien! i didn't even wear high heels!

hahahahahahaa
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
wow...
otai-otai programming berborak sakan...
hahaha...

language ape derang yang pakai untuk program machines & all the physical stuffs???

to bad..
i'm so worried thats no jobs for IT people these days


For microcontrollers, assembler or some variant. I think Paul Millot's familiar with that.
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