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| Bode |
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| calibre2001 wrote: | | Yngwie is exceptional IMO. Though he is a shredder caapble of infinite notes in a tick of a clock, much mojo still resides in his blues rock. The reason? He grew up on the Bluesbreaker album and Blackmore initially. |
Yeah....Yngwie admitted to learning every possible Blackmore solo there is during his early days....and he has borrowed many of Blackmore's on-stage theatrical acts too...eg. the 'all black' costume/white shirts with frilly cuffs...breaking guitars onstage...banging the guitar cable on the guitar strings etc. etc.
| Raggy wrote: | ahhhh....ol' Ritchie still evokes many a discussion even amongst those who would proclaim him not the best.
I've always been fascinated by Blackmore's guitaring yet there are so many other technically in the same league or even better yet none of them holds a candle to him in my opinion. Why? Because Ritchie not only has extremely good technique, but he also has a tendency to let his feel over-ride any technique, and so you will see him play some lick "incorrectly" technique-wise, but he is trying to get some some special expression........those famous scenes where he stops playing in disgust at the band or himself are all a result of his trying to achieve some expression and somehow not getting it. Guys like Malmsteen always concentrate on showcasing their technique, but Ritchie will slow down in the middle of the fastest sole and just play some "silly" thing because it gives a message. And he's very difficult to get along with because he's always so intense about the music.
Deep Purple without Blackmore is just just not Purple  All those great guitar licks, after he left not one single memorable new guitar lick in any Deep Purple song!
and while I'm knocking DP, I might as well as say I HATE Gillian's singing. Nobody sings like Coverdale!
oh dear, my age is showing |
I agree with every word up there man...about Blackmore and Coverdale especially. I only listen to Deep Purple during the David Coverdale years...not only for his superb singing but for the stronger blues /r&b influence that he brought into Deep Purple.
No surprise why I'm such a huge fan of the almighty Whitesnake 
David Coverdale with his all time classic 'fucking the mike stand' pose.
You dont get frontmen like this anymore in rock music...if there is...show me!
Btw Raggy....I bet that you couldnt be older than me!  |
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| Jailhouserock |
| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I found this on the net. Have a nice reading! 
Famous / Infamous for
Ha! Where does one begin? Kick back and get comfortable, this could take a while!
Famous for: Countless classic guitar riffs. - Introducing classical elements into rock music. - Ritchie Blackmore is, along with Tony Iommi, and Jimmy Page, one of the founding fathers of Heavy Metal, and THE founding father of the Neo-Classical guitar school. - Ritchie has also discovered some of the best rock singers on the planet including: Ian Gillan, David Coverdale, Glenn Hughes, Ronnie James Dio, along with somewhat less-legendary rock mainstays Joe Lynn Turner and Graham Bonnett.
Infamous for: Being moody, sullen, incredibly stubborn, and difficult to work with. He delights in, and nurtures this reputation while poking fun at it at the same time. - Almost as much Strat abuse as Townshend and Hendrix, Ritchie has probably destroyed hundreds of crappy Strats and copies during performances. - Feuding with Ian Gillan. - Directing Rainbow stage performances like a traffic cop. - Changing his band's lineup more frequently than most of us change our socks. - Having the loudest amplifiers ever built and "pointing them at the singer." - Dressing in black in the 70s and 80s. Dressing like Errol Flynn (of Sherwood Forest) these days. - Having a gorgeous blonde wife who's about the same age as his son. - Having significantly more and thicker hair at age 55 than he did an age 25. - Legendary Blackmore stories abound: During Purple's performance at the California Jam in 1974, Ritchie beat the snot out of a $70,000 television camera with his Strat (because it got too close to him) He then doused his amplifiers in gasoline and and set them ablaze. Eventually they blew up, setting the stage on fire in the process. As the authorities descended on the conflagration, Ritchie jumped in a helicopter and took off.
Influences
Obvious: Ritchie has readily admitted he lifted a few ideas from Hendrix and has stated that hearing Zeppelin's first album showed him the way (to turn Deep Purple from a second rate psychedelic band into a hard rock monster). Other influences are clearly classical and medieval music.
But as far as I'm concerned, as a guitarist, Ritchie is a true original. His style is unique, distinctive, and instantly recognizable. While other players often sound like Ritchie, Ritchie sounds like no one else.
Not-so-obvious: Ritchie has listed Big Jim Sullivan, Duane Eddy, Hank B. Marvin, Django Reinhardt, Wes Montgomery, James Burton, Les Paul among his guitar influences.
Strengths
Riffs. For a guy who doesn't consider himself much of a composer, Ritchie has created a staggering number of classic guitar riffs: Speed King, Strange Kind Of Women, Smoke on the Water, Highway Star, Lazy, Space Truckin', Woman From Tokyo, Burn, Lay Down Stay Down, Mistreated, Man on the Silver Mountain, Kill The King, Long Live Rock 'N'Roll. The list goes on.
Classical influence. Ritchie brought Bach to Rock. It was Ritchie who first injected rock guitar with the classical scales and chord progressions that inspired future legions of rock guitarists. He also brought medieval, baroque influences to his music. These influences particularly color Ritchie's terrific melodic sense.
Blues influence. Added to the classical influence is a strong and very unique blues sense that sets him apart from a pure Neo-Classical style.
Great chops. Sure, there are guys who can outshred him now, but who was playing as fast and as clean as Ritchie back 1970? Not many. If you don't believe me, get a copy of Deep Purple In Concert 1970-72 and check out the blistering playing on Wring that Neck. In many ways Ritchie was really the first true shredder, and certainly the founding father of the Neo-Classical guitar style. And unlike some of his contemporaries, he hasn't lost his chops with age.
Brilliant improvisationalist. Unique, original, instantly-recognizable lead style. Described in more detail in the Guitar Style section below.
Perhaps his biggest strength is that he's Ritchie Blackmore and the rest of us aren't.
Weaknesses
Ritchie only runs into trouble when he loses interest in something. On those occasions, he's prone to mailing it in — be it a live or studio performance. He's also been known to let his mood adversely effect his performance.
Ritchie is also a disinterested rhythm guitar player: In a 1978 Guitar Player interview He said: "I hate to do rhythm tracks, they bore me silly." And though this comment was made in the context of laying tracks in the studio, the same can be said of Ritchie's live rhythm playing. In the same interview, he also states: "I love to have that freedom of just going onstage and playing whatever I want to play at the time. I'll play the numbers which I'm supposed to play, but in the in-between parts if I'm feeling good I'll play something completely off the wall that I've never ever played in my life. In other words, I just lay back for the vocal and then I do my bit when it comes to the solo. I don't like to do intricate things in the backgrounds; I don't like to clutter. I like the foundation to be simple." Details of Ritchie's rhythm approach appear in the Guitar Style section below.
You also rarely hear Ritchie play the same guitar solo twice. Wanna know why? He says: "I have a very bad technical memory, so I can't remember, if I write a tune, exactly what the notes are. It's really exasperating, 'cause I'll write one and that's great, I'll play it again and record it. And I'll play it again and, oh dear, I've forgotten it. What did I play? It's really annoying." (from Trouser Press, July 1978)
The most unfortunate aspect of this trend is that Ritchie seems completely uninterested in returning to rock music. Ritchie's acoustic medieval music project Blackmore's Night, showcases some intricate playing and nice melodies, but in my opinion, it's entirely too nice — and a great cure for insomnia! It lacks the fire and brimstone of his rock work. By comparison, I find a lot more fire, passion, and excitement in Michael Schenker's acoustic/electric compositions.
Tone
In the early Purple days (and prior) Ritchie used a Gibson ES-335 and a Vox AC-30. However the Blackmore sound that would become famous centered around mostly-stock Strats and very modded Marshalls. From very early on, Ritchie scalloped the necks on his Strats. He uses stock Fender tremolos, and he eventually settled on rosewood necks exclusively.
Ritchie played a variety of different CBS-era Strats in the Deep Purple days. But by the late 70s, he had found a white 1974 rosewood-necked Strat that he particularly liked, and that guitar became his main guitar longer than any other. Through most of the 80s with Rainbow, this Strat contained Duncan Quarter Pounders in the bridge and neck positions (the middle pickup on Ritchie's Strats are always either removed or disconnected and lowered flush with the pickguard). Later on, the Duncans were replaced by some stacked humbuckers. This guitar is now extremely worn and is only used as backup. Ritchie's current number 1 is a similar, white 70s Strat fitted with a Roland GK-1 synth pickup in addition to normal guitar pickups.
Ritchie never liked the sound of stock Marshalls, and through most of the late Purple and Rainbow years Ritchie used modified 200 watt Marshall Majors with two extra tubes built into an extra output stage. These 280 watt beasts are purportedly the loudest guitar amps ever made, and Ritchie ran them full-out, both live and in the studio. I saw Rainbow in the 80s — these amps were positively earsplitting! Fortunately he only used one at a time and the extra stacks on stage were just reserves. These days, Ritchie uses and endorses ENGL amps. The company even makes a Ritchie Blackmore Signature model amplifier.
Also integral to Ritchie's sound for years, has been an old reel-to-reel tape recorder modified into an echo unit. He runs it between the guitar and the amp and it also preamps and boosts the signal going to the amp. And while people don't usually associate Ritchie with specific effects (other than the echo), in the glory days of Dio-era Rainbow, Ritchie used a lot of phase shifter. He also had a set of Moog Tarus bass pedals (though these are not a guitar effect).
Tech details aside, suffice it to say that Ritchie's tone is a very Hard Rock Strat tone. And despite the lethal levels of wattage and volume involved, it's not a very gainy sound. It's certainly got more crunch and bite than say the Knopfler and Gilmour Strat tones. But it's less gainy, and thinner-sounding than Gary Moore's Strat tone of the 80s. It's closer to Jeff Beck's Strat tone, but cleaner and slightly thinner.
Guitar Style
Ritchie's rhythm style is very sparse and part of what makes him sound unique. Instead of a traditional, chordal, rhythm guitar part, Ritchie frequently plays single notes that mimic the bass line — for example, a root-octave figure, or a root-5th-octave figure. In these cases, he frequently employs ascending and descending chromatic turnarounds at the end of a verse.
You won't ever hear the standard root 6 bar chord out of Ritchie, you'll hear a root 1 instead, and occasionally two-note 5th power chords. This approach would sound extremely thin if Ritchie didn't always have a keyboard player in the band to thicken up the sound.
Other rhythmical Blackmoreisms include the use of pedal points and arpeggiated triads over a classical chord progression. These are techniques Ritchie borrowed from Bach. But what Ritchie is most famous for is songs based on two-note 4th-based riffs — the kind used in Smoke on the Water, Burn, Man on the Silver Mountain, and Kill the King.
Ritchie's staccato lead style is perhaps the most distinctive and recognizable element of his playing. He's often quite heavy-handed, but is also capable of being beautifully delicate. Ritchie moves between the fast and flashy, and the slow and melodic with magnificent grace and ease. He's an alternate picker on speed runs but also uses a lot of legato and open string pulloffs too. Ritchie was also one of the first players to employ sweep picking — usually in the form of quick, muted, raked arpeggios. He does a fair amount of finger picking with his thumb and index finger.
Scale wise, Ritchie's licks often mix the Blues scale the with the Dorian and chromatics. He was the first rock player to make extensive use of Aeolian minor, and he sometimes throws in some Middle Eastern flavored licks from what has become known as Blackmore's snake-charmer scale (a variation of the Hungarian Minor).
When you think of Ritchie Blackmore, slide player isn't the first thing that comes to mind — for me anyway — but when you look at his body of work and start adding things up, he actually plays quite a bit of slide and uses it quite effectively to enhance his melodies. Once he's finished playing his slide part, Ritchie likes to throw the slide — often at the one of his bandmates.
Vibrato:
He's got a few. A medium speed, medium width one, and a faster frantic, heavy-handed one. He also has a rather heavy-handed Hendrix-like whammy bar technique that he uses more in the live setting as a flash effect rather than as an integrated part of his playing style.
Recommended listening
Deep Purple
In Rock - V V V V V
Fireball - V V V Vv
Machine Head - V V V V V
In Concert: 1970-1972 - V V V Vv
Made in Japan - V V V V V
Burn - V V V V V
Live in London - V V V Vv
MK III The Final Concerts - V V V V
Perfect Strangers - V V V V V
Rainbow
Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow - V V V V V
Rising - V V V V V
Long Live Rock n' Roll - V V V V V
Difficult to Cure - V V Vv
Source: http://www.dinosaurrockguitar.com
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| cool |
| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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huu..dahsyat.makin tambah knowledge aku psl Blackmore.
| zubira wrote: | | oooo....ok la mcm tu...tau sikit theory and ada sikit skills...and transfer all yr emotions to yr fingers on the guitar and let it be heard..coolll mr cool..tq |
bro zubir..bile mau dtg studio jai lg?? ( bangi )
aritu ms bro dtg,aku ade hal.
anyway goodluck 
hehehe...shredder2 & guitar hero kt luar tu,ade brani sahut seruan zubira?
main mcm Blackmore!! hihihihi |
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| silbi |
| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| zubira wrote: | | silbi, ko ada latest BN's cd? best tak? |
apparently not.
aku ada satu album lama je, bought it a few years ago...lupa lak tajuk album tu...ada first lagu 'under the violet moon' ke apa ntah...even my 2, 3 year old nephews layan the song coz it's quite catchy...and the acoustic guitar solos there are really 'profound'. Once song he used an electric guitar..rasa pasal dia tak tahan kot, kena pakai letrik jugak.
also, dunno how i got to buy the album pun...i reckon it was by accident...tertest dengar, terus tangkap cintan...hehe. Music inspired by the medieval times...hail stonehenge!
btw - nice story about blackmore here peeps...
regards
ps - iklaaaan...
on a similar rock topik, watch 'rock' in cinemas soon. true mat rock kapak will surely dig this film....hehe. Sadly gue miss preview dia semalam... |
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| Raggy |
| Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | BodeBtw Raggy....I bet that you couldnt be older than me! |
OK, what are we betting for? Naah, it won't be fair, I'm 46, surely you can't be older (or at least be willing too admit to being older).
But I'm nowhere in the same league as you in guitaring, I just fool around. Sometimes it's a bit depressing, I see so many young guitarists who can play better than I ever will and the more I practise the more my fingers get arthritis, but I love music and the guitar so I try to learn to play simple but tastefully.
Who is Blackmore ? Ritchie a/l Blackmore is a guitarist from a long time ago, he used to play marbles with Mozart and another boy Beethoven but his mother Janis a/p Joplin could not afford to send him to school so she closed her nasi lemak stall and made Ritchie sell koay teow in the Pasar Malam,where he met a useless dangdut singer David Coverdale who was still breastfeeding at the age of 11. Anyway, just to get David off his tits Ritche would hold a plank to his chest, said plank had steel strings along the length so he'd be alerted with a twangy sound every time David tried to sneak a mouthful.
This became a recurring thing at the pasar malam and the fellow selling roti canai in the next sall would bang his utensils in glee watching this, his name was Crazy Towel (because of the stains on the "good Morning" towel permamently around his neck) and anyway one day Ritchie got so fed up he took a hot roti canai and stuffed it into Coverdale's pants. This had mixed results: Cozy would demand payment for the roti, bang Ritchie's stall like crazy, while David would start rubbing his crotch against any pole he could find, screaming "Burn".
Luckily, a passer by (later identified as Jon Lord) threw the contents of the beer can he had onto David's crotch, put out the flame,though there was this terrible mixture of smoke and stink coming out, and poor David pissed at the same time,causing a little boy to exclaim to his Mommy "Look, there's Smoke on that Water".
It was only many years later, when they found a bassist who knew what an 'E' note was, though, that they formed a band, known in China as Dip Perperl
and THAT's the real story |
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| Rainbow |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: |
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hahhahha Raggy, that was funny.. and i'm not too far away from u in terms of age...i'm just few years younger.....and older than Bode...that's why si Grymlock panggil aku Uncle Zubira...chesss...awek2 pun panggil aku abang, dia plak men'tua'kan aku..hahahaha....no wonder we're talking bout Blackmore and those years..hahaha
Rainbow jgn ambik ati la dgn lawak Raggy tu ye.....
Bode, i hv a song (abit funky) recorded last year which i think u r the right person to put in the guitar solo in it..boleh tak? bila free? kalu sudi, nanti i pass to u the rythm track. |
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| zubira |
| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| cool wrote: | huu..dahsyat.makin tambah knowledge aku psl Blackmore.
| zubira wrote: | | oooo....ok la mcm tu...tau sikit theory and ada sikit skills...and transfer all yr emotions to yr fingers on the guitar and let it be heard..coolll mr cool..tq |
bro zubir..bile mau dtg studio jai lg?? ( bangi )
aritu ms bro dtg,aku ade hal.
anyway goodluck
hehehe...shredder2 & guitar hero kt luar tu,ade brani sahut seruan zubira?
main mcm Blackmore!! hihihihi |
ooo ko kt bangi..member Ejai la ye..aku jam kt situ skali je dgn Ejai..pastu ajak member2 lain smuanye tak nak pi situ..jauh konon....hahaha rasanye tak yah suruh sape2 main mcm blackmore...susah sebenarnye... |
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| zubira |
| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| jailhouserock...thank u for the article...baru la ku paham amende si blackmore tu sebenarnye. sblum ni aku tau sikit2 je pasal dia.. |
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| silbi |
| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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sometimes in other thread, i feel i'm the oldest coz of my age...early 30s.
now here i feel i'm in the land of the otais! haha!
nice stuff here...keep on rockin! |
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| zubira |
| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| hahaha yeah yeah welcome to the land of otais.. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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aku pun terase jgk.
tmpt otai2 ni... |
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| zubira |
| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| woittss...jgn risau la...Otai ke Nutai ke, sama je..ni kan sidang fellowship of the strings.. tak kesah |
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| silbi |
| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| zubira wrote: | | woittss...jgn risau la...Otai ke Nutai ke, sama je..ni kan sidang fellowship of the strings.. tak kesah |
Nutai is a cool word. Can i take it as the name for my band? Tgh cari nama ni...hehe...
Btw - maybe the otais or nutais would wanna layan my 'survey' here: -
http://www.i-bands.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2509 |
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| zubira |
| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| hahhaha...serious ka Silbi? ok la..guna la nama tu kalu ko nak..aku tak sengaja ter'invent' word tu masa tengah mssg kt myspace dgn sorang nutai...budak tu pun suka that word..so kalu ko nak, baik ko cepat2 adopt nama tu dan sebarkan ke seluruh negara..hehehe.. |
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