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| ZiNK |
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| HuntressM00n wrote: | NEWS FLASH!
SELEPAS DATANG KE FORUM ISU BLACK METAL DI DALAM RANCANGAN MHI DAN WHI DI TV3 BARU2 NI.
Pihak TV3 berhasrat untuk menorganise gig METAL secara live dan besar besaran (lebih besar daripada ROCK THE WORLD)
TV3 nak band2 semua kat mesia membuktikan MALAYSIA bahawa tidak wujud hal pemujaan syaitan dalam muzik metal tempatan
THE ROAD HAS OPEN FOR US TO FIGHT! |
yeah... i read it in the metalterus forum... too bad i can't perform... my guitar is still in the upgrading process T_T
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| silbi |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| dead_zink wrote: | | HuntressM00n wrote: | NEWS FLASH!
SELEPAS DATANG KE FORUM ISU BLACK METAL DI DALAM RANCANGAN MHI DAN WHI DI TV3 BARU2 NI.
Pihak TV3 berhasrat untuk menorganise gig METAL secara live dan besar besaran (lebih besar daripada ROCK THE WORLD)
TV3 nak band2 semua kat mesia membuktikan MALAYSIA bahawa tidak wujud hal pemujaan syaitan dalam muzik metal tempatan
THE ROAD HAS OPEN FOR US TO FIGHT! |
yeah... i read it in the metalterus forum... too bad i can't perform... my guitar is still in the upgrading process T_T |
wei...funny lah...
memang ada orang plan nak approach tv3's event arm for this, but i dont think they have yet to start any formal discussion.
one of them who'd thought of this idea is the lawyer fren of mine (Amer Hamzah) pictured next to paul in the NST article above. He was actually the one who talked about metal music in last week's WHI (anyone saw?) And this was before the freakin recent raid.
Anyways, personally, with what is happening now, don't think organising such concert won't be that easy lah...unless u organise a metal gig to be headlined by Peter Pan again...or maybe Radja? hehe..
somemore, any corporate organisation will have to thing about the ringgit and sen...can a big metal concert sell? But there's potential. And could there be any sponsors? Important things that we should ponder...
So let's just hope for the best ...
anyways...my dream local metal concert line up would be
cromok
metalasia
silkhannaz
xpdc
bow to the otais of metal!...
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| synthdude |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: Keep the comments cool and clever! |
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While we appreciate your rage-fuelled comments, please resist the temptation to make libellous statements that may jeopardise the existence of this site. We're all really angry at this moment, but at the same time we shouldn't reduce ourselves to the shameful level of our woefully misguided, self-appointed moral guardians.
And try not be a bigot, like this guy at Jeff Ooi's popular blog Screenshots.
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Be it 'Black Metal' or 'Black Mental', I don't see what's so musical about them. It's nothing more than a din. It's definitely not soothing to the ears. They are contributing to the noise pollution. How can anybody sit through and enjoy them?
I prefer to lay back and listen to the Fab Four's "Let It Be". <b>YgArif<b>
<b>JEFF OOI says:<b> Two clues you gave away about your self and your values system. One, you may be too old for young people's genre of music. Two, you are imposing your values unto others who don't share yours. For clue #2, I wonder where your inherited that imposing right of yours unto others? MOST IMPORTANTLY, the context to the issue is the seeming collusion of the Media and the Police in abusinbg human rights, not just "Black Metal" which musicians said isn't the crux of thematter here. Yang Arif, I think I have blogged this matter from the heart with the brain engaged, and I don't you have missed the trees for the wood. Are you trying to hijack my blog topic, the affirmative of which will render you severe consequences in my blog space. </b>
More HERE.
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| silbi |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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bro synthdude
if u r referring to me, i apologise...hope it's not me...hehe
anyways, true, maybe a lot of ppl are monitoring this site now...so keep your comments cool ppl... |
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| Scumgrief |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Aku pelik... 8 orang from those 380 people yang kena tangkap positif dadah... ada 372 orang lagi tak isap dadah. Just because there are a few of black sheeps that does not mean they have the right to label everybody as mat dadah.
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| synthdude |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: Just sounding a cautionary note... |
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| Quote: | | if u r referring to me, i apologise...hope it's not me...hehe |
Chill dude! It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular... Just a gentle reminder to all forum participants that problems are not solved by calling people names.
Cheers.
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| HuntressM00n |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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This is a forwarded message from FIRST STANCE RECORDS
kindly take note
MY Hardcore n Indiependent Music our fight have just begun
Body: My fellow friends from hardcore punk rock or anyone who loves other types of rock music. The fight has just begun. The fight for the rights of our music and our arts needs to be justified.
They chose us as a scapegoat for the social disease, which they
themselves did not do any homework on to which the finger was pointed blindly without even knowing what or who we are. They have injected in the minds of the community that all our music are of immoral behavior and of bad activity. This has been further fueled by the impression that has been portrayed by the mass media over the scene which they call Satanic worshipping and whatever else.
They still do not know what is really going on. This is a time where we have to shake hands and unite among us. In a previous press conference session, I can see that the friendship and unity is strong. Kids have come from everywhere to be there to support and to help in whatever way they could to justify what has been misinterpreted by the media and the people. And sadly it seems that it is not going anywhere.
I have read the paper. I have read the news, but still the impression that I was trying to make those people is still which is the notion that we are independent people who are making our own music and not in any major labels is still not understood. The understanding that we need our own space has also been misconstrued and misunderstood and is still considered as a "wrong doing".
So where will we go? Will our freedom of expression in the form of
music and arts be justified? So where can we go to support each other?
This is the time for us to sort the differences between us and to
unite and put away problems. This is so that we will know what happens to the people who are involved. We may not find any avenue to express and stand up. But through support and hopefully a rally to fight for music expression, the public will understand that we are kids who love our music and know what we are doing.
I urge people who know about music in a holistic point of view to
write to the papers, voicing out your concerns and to put right what was put wrong. Tell people or spread the message as there's nothing wrong in playing your kind of music which is not displayed on TV or aired on the radio. I think this is the time we have to move forward and make people understand. We don't have our own media we don't have our own TV, but we have our voice and friends. And this Saturday there will be a memorandum signing at the KL Performing Arts Center (KLPAC) which is done by a few friends and will be sent to Suhakam about our music and freedom of expression through music and arts.
So do participate on that day. As for our four friends who were
detained, I'm glad they are ok even when they feel the pressure by their family. U guys still have us the HARDCORE family.
Our fight has just began and with all of your voices - We can make this happen.
Regards
First Stance Recordings
*31st December 2005 serves as a black mark for human rights in
Malaysia especially about music and arts expressions
Amir Hamzah lawyer and music follower.
* On that day even some patrons who were lingering around at a foodstall were detained for 7 hours without any reason. If you have been detained without notice what is your wrong doing? Support us and do a report at your place, and write to papers or whatever and forward to everybody.
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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I'm wondering what Dr. Bode has to say about this??
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| ZiNK |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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8TV quickie will talk about the raid tonight at 11.30 pm. Please check it out!!
Peace be upon you
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| totziens |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Scumgrief wrote: | | Aku pelik... 8 orang from those 380 people yang kena tangkap positif dadah... ada 372 orang lagi tak isap dadah. Just because there are a few of black sheeps that does not mean they have the right to label everybody as mat dadah. |
I agree 101%. There are some reckless drivers on the road, why don't they ban all the vehicles? |
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| ammirhafzan |
| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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i personaly feel bad about what happened at paul's place. it has been a miserable moment in our musical movement. however, there's a bright side of it, where from tis starting point all of us have to be united. the objectie is , to do what we like playing our music independently and not to be misjudge by the community& nation wrongly because of ignorance (bodoh sombong) attitude by media etc. there's too much hypocrite these days and someone is smiling somewhere towards what happened just because they get their benefit out of the incident. So friends, i say we can fight for this. Give support to the activities like at KLPAC, etc .
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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i think this was what happened to rock n roll last time huh?
any experience? bode? synthdude?
i just borak-borak with ajeep about handing out flyers to the public, not about the raid, but informational ones, like what's black metal, and what's underground and what's indie bands all about..... no offense to any black metal musicians, but i figure while the issue is hot, it might help spreading the words.... (repeat, the flyers will not relate to the issue at all).... yeah old skool.
we can donate a little to photocopy the flyers and distribute, well either that or by emails
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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i think this was what happened to rock n roll last time huh?
any experience? bode? synthdude?
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You're right about that bro. This is nothing new. More than 10 years ago, the same newspapers (Berita Harian and Harian Metro) ran a series of articles about heavy metal and Satan worship among our youth in the same fatuous, fact-twisting fashion.
It turned out to be an exercise in futility as I think it helped them sell only a few thousand more copies. So they switched to sex soon after that.
Also, remember the time when there was a blanket ban on rock concerts in the country following an incident of unruly behaviour at one? It was the sort of drastic action that would've cause a riot now, but unfortunately then, rockers were pretty clueless about their rights and didn't have a strong collective voice to protest against the unfairness of it all or have the capability to organise a concerted effort to express their disenchantment.
If I'm not mistaken, the ban was never officially lifted in some states, so the authorities in some places can still pull the plug on rock concerts if they're having a bad-hair or bad-heart day.
It's good to know that our musicians are more aware of their rights now and are able to put up a more united front in the fight against injustice.
And they should be thankful to non-profit organisations like the Centre for Independent Journalism for volunteering to speak up for them.
In fact, they should seriously consider organising a fund-raiser for CIJ as the volunteers who run it deserve any kind of support they can get from independent artists.
| Quote: | | i just borak-borak with ajeep about handing out flyers to the public, not about the raid, but informational ones, like what's black metal, and what's underground and what's indie bands all about..... no offense to any black metal musicians, but i figure while the issue is hot, it might help spreading the words.... (repeat, the flyers will not relate to the issue at all).... yeah old skool. |
Good idea! May I suggest that you design a printer-friendly flyer and post it online so that anyone in any part of Malaysia can print and distribute it.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: Statement from CIJ |
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<b>Alert: Media ethics lacking in coverage of 'Black Metal' raid</b>
CIJ
1 January 2006
The Centre for Independent Journalism is strongly concerned about the use of the media to harass and intimidate detainees arrested following a raid on New Year’s Eve. Six young detainees, subsequently released without charge, were paraded in front of a media conference by the police, and subject to intense, hostile questioning by journalists. This contravenes both human rights principles and principles of ethical journalism.
On New Year’s Eve, Malaysian police conducted a raid at a punk rock concert on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur, accompanied by reporters. Posters, banners and audio equipment were seized, and young people both inside the venue, standing outside the venue and those in nearby coffee shops were arrested. According to those arrested and friends who were in touch with them via handphones, they were informed that this was because they had attended an unlicensed concert, but were later informed that it was because they were indecent in a public place.
Police informed the media that around 380 youths were arrested. Of these, six were asked by the police to talk to the media. One of those who spoke, but doesn’t want to be named, said that she felt that they had no choice but to obey the police officers. She also said that the media did not appear to want to hear their side of the story, and that they were not given a fair hearing.
The police could not be reached for comment.
This is degrading treatment of detainees that the media colluded in, violating fundamental human dignity, the right of interviewees to answer questions freely and without fear, and an invasion of privacy. CIJ demands that the media abide by international ethical principles for journalists, as encapsulated in the National Union of Journalists and the Malaysian Press Institute’s codes of ethics. <b>— Centre for Independent Journalism, Malaysia<b>
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