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fReqZz
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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yeah agree... take notice slayer n megadeth.. their riff is challenging.. try holy wars! though i prefer tornado of souls..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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blues still kene blaja walaupun xnak main metal.

kirenyer, paling asas dalam main guitar nie, bagi aku, kene tau blues ar. so, aku assume that the thread starter dah ader basic, which is blues.

try main cromatic scale. band metal memaner pun, mesti pakai cromatic nyer.

then jangan lupa utk dgr old metal mcm iron maiden, sabbath. drp maiden, ko bley dapat mcm2 idea utk lagu ko sendiri.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aha~ btol.. chomatic scales.. but jgn be to dependent sgt on scales, once u nailed it, dont look at it again.. otherwise, ur song will be like "scales with beat" got the idea?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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chomatic scales? ape tu? aku main bantai jer scale ape2. asalkan sedap & bleh diterima telinga... bleh la...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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phrygian mode would give a nice metallica like chord progression and goreng hehe..some ppl called it the metallica mode he he
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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i think kirk uses a lot of pentatonic and chromatic in his solos...just look at fade to black, it's mainly basic Bm pentatonic all the way babeh!

tonardo of soul uses Bm pentatonic as well i think...

so yeah...i guess u'd covered it all if you'd learn to master the pentatonic pattern in the fretboard...

then just add some chromatic scales in between - and as long as it doesnt sound sumbang....balun je!

i think slayer's solos are perhaps a bit non-melodic - so i reckon he uses a lot of chromatic

maybe u could try to get some arabic influences into those songs - then u cud get holy wars.

knowing scales is good - the challenge is applying it and not having it to sound like your practicing the scale in your songs.

As what Paul Gilberts in his intructional video - dynamics, dynamics, dynamics...

omarj - any good links to this phrygian mode - gosh nak sebut pun susah, camno nak main!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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To me phrygian is yngwie mode..(harmonic minor) hehe.. (masa dulu2 aku panggil scale arab lah..)

the simplest way to know the phrygian sound, simply ask someone to play E major chord, and you goreng on A minor or A Harmonic Minor scale.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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yeah... dynamics.. i remember paul gilbert always emphasize on not only speed.. but also dynamics
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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I think alot of proper listening will widen ur phrasing vocabulary. Learn to hum or sing the licks u hear and use it while playing when only appropriate. This should solve the 'practice scale in song' problem we all face.

how about more incorporating more advance techniques like whammy bar dives, tapping etc

Or most of you prefer the older skool style?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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1.pinch harmonics-a must learn!
2.for technical/prog egyptian sounding riffs/leads try death-the sound of perseverance..best metal record ever!bagi aku la..
3.almost every metal band ade harmony2 skang?sume ni pendapat aku jela hehe
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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silbi..rockk uu..

*whoring mode*
err aku ada tulis artikel bout phrygian modes and the other modes as well ..tu click kat artikel section..hehe..
*end of whoring mode*
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Playing metal in Dorian mode is fun. Guitar hero mood.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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dorian tu bukan ikan cite nemo ke?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Dorian? Some examples where I can hear the application. Can be metal, rock, jazz, country, pop as long as its easy to find n good for getting familiar with the mode. Thx
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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silbi wrote:
dorian tu bukan ikan cite nemo ke?


itu pun boleh gak.. hahaha Very Happy
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