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| browndog2woof |
 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: zzz |
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: kaya jangan tak kaya |
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peh!
hot nye topic. anyway in reality dia dah kaya sebab market sekarang demand macamtu...takpelah, biak pi kat depa, itu rezki masing2...yang sedihnya, purist kat malaysia jadi jadi 'kera' sampai bila2, habis kuat pun jadi 'bigfoot' yang kat johor tu..gempak gila tapi tak kemana-mana...kalau kirk hammet tu duduk kat ulu kelang, sekarang aku ingat dia dah jual ice kacang dah kat pasar malam...kecuali dia potong rambut dan kerja dgn coprate pig yang besar2..banyak mamat jadi camni dah..sama jugak dgn aku la, sorry ya..benda yg aku suka buat tak kasi aku duit, makan masa, perabih lagi adala, perit oh perit...benda yang aku malas nak buat tu lah yg kasi aku wang nak kasi aku hidup....hmmmm, salesman pun salesman lah, lepastu bila aku buat lagu, commercial market pun kata tak sedap, underground pun tak boleh terima, apalagi dgn recording company...tak boleh bikin wang katanya. kadang2 timbul pulak perasaan perasan aku, 'kalau kat overseas, tentu aku dah glam dan kaya gile sebab aku ni bukan poser'. hmmm, ya, memang bukan poser, lamp post lagi ada....
hendrix pun ada problem ni dulu, tapi itu 60s...'BUT HE MANAGED IT AND DIE FOR IT! One mean black motherf**ker that being pissed off in states turns the whole white world upside down by going abroad!, (mamat2 yg gila hendrix taula apa yang aku maksudkan)...'ARE YOU ABLE TO DO SO?'....by the way, lagu dia memang sedap, he he he!....sekarang negro dah tak interested kat rock dah, semuanya dah hip hop.....tinggal lah 2 tiga mamat vintage yg aku masih dengar..
''fellow i-bands...break the ice! break the ice' i feel you guys too, but it's the same in 1986 bila aku...hmmmmmm.....malas aku nak cakap...history repeats by itself, macam turntable cap anjing tok aku je bila sangkut...sangkut...sangkut...sangkut...sangkut...
aku tak minat mawi, tapi kat rumah mak aku semua suka kat dia, anak buah aku, makcik2 aku, jiran2 aku, sedaramara aku dan juga, kucing kuning aku pun suka kat dia (yg ni kuat kencing kat dinding ni..) etc.etc... WORLD KATANYA....sebab tu aku dengki sangat kat dia bila dia kaya, sebab aku rasa aku lebih layak.....AT LEAST I'M HONEST ABOUT IT!..
(perasan oh perasan!....patutla aku tak kaya2 pun!)
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| amansatch |
| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: |
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 hehehe aku setuju dgn kau....
Nasib baik kat rumah aku takde yang minat mawi...aku bukan jealous dgn kekayaan dia...tapi aku sedih dgn kebodohan orang melayu tentang music...bukan nak kata aku ni pandai tentang music...tapi boleh beza la pitch,tone dll....ni suara pitch lari, tone seciput...boleh dapat iktiraf macam2....media dan wartawan kat malaysia ni pun satu tak jujur...sepatutnya kita boleh puji benda yang bagus dan hentam benda yang tak bagus...ni tak dah terbalik sebab kan peminat dan marketing dia orang...hehehehehe  kita dah melangkah jauh dlm alaf baru...tapi lagu yang diaorang promote kat tv lagu sentimental yang takde quality...Am..Dm...G..F...C....sesekali tryla masuk kan m7 ke...maj7...boleh la nak improvise lydian...takde educate langsung lagu2 kat negara kita ni...ni semua diaorang punya kerja duit duit duit....
aku ada baca tentang Joe Satriani masa nak keluarkan album dia dulu2...member terpaksa guna card credit...kerja kat studio yang dia buat recording tu utk langsaikan outstanding dia...akhirnya member sucess gak...
 Lagi satu aku ada tengok rancangan apa entah...rosyam noor jadi pengacara isu tentang mawi...diaorang interview ajai,mnasir,pengetua AF1 & 2...sorang pun tak berani cakap yang mawi ni tak boleh nyanyi dgn baik...alasan dia masih baru...kalau masih baru kasi la training dulu..asahkan bakat..baru la bikin album...ni belum2 apa album dah banyak....sebab peminat dan duit...kesian kan sifu2 bangang ni semua...menunjukkan kebodohan masing2... |
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: zzz |
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| ishtaraidyl |
| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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semua ni rezeki la bro....i've been in this so called u/ground scene since ...1987..semua post yg korang..luahkan tu aku dh lalu...i dont have to reveal my identity...that time you know la bands like nemesis...punisher....the one n only joe kidd..they all have the same spirits....aku pun sama...i even started the first elektronika debut in picaddily in early 90's..HERE IS MY POINT........
Where are they? All my comrades in hand...is either you become old...tired...grandfather..sell out rich...or poor...woof you're right...kt sini memang byk kirk hammet yg jual ais kacang...aku dh jumpa.
PLEASE la wake up...if you wanna do thing...do it the right way....we live in the world that full of sh*t. What we need is a strong foundation....but HOW?
kalau x tau..xyah lah nk sakit hati kat orang lain....aku dh lalu...not gonna take me anywhere pun...
last sekali ....bila umur dh meningkat, anak dh ramai....aku just forgot about all my fightin n brawlin masa kt u/g dulu...
n sadly aku jumpa balik kawan lama aku yg x u/ground pun...main muzik gak masa tu..tapi sekarang on pursuing Phd..sekarang dah pegang fakulti music di salah satu university kt sini..padahal dulu aku lagi tau musik dari dia...Nak MARAH SAPA? diri sendiri la bro....u/ground la tu...
betul kata woof lagi...its a circle....WELCOME TO REALITY
hopefully you get my message here....aku x maksud nk underestimate all of you fine young u/g troops in your battle...cuma nk ingat kan you...peluru tu biar lah banyak sikit...plus aim tu biar tepat ok? baru la kena sasaran....all the best...peace..
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| GryMlock |
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| ishtaraidyl |
| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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alamak dont be discourage la bro...
maybe this kind of adventures wont happen to this new era of diy' ers / undergrounders..
kekadang tu aku tgk iklan kat atas ni fathulistiwa...mengingatkan aku pada betapa struggle nye kita ni suatu masa dulu..its nearly 20years now.....very slow progress dont u think?
...c/dung...sil khannaz....k/kanser...cyberwerk...damage digital....chronic mass....project ak...silent death...spiral kinetik circus...marlin spikes...and lots of names that u need to check in your fanzines archives...if you have one...hmmmm including mine...wavefront...still the same question? mainstream or diy/uground ?
it doesnt matter anyway...you people need to go through this journey...only just to really understand my point.
just do it proper...okay...keep it really2 real..just go mainstream...NOW...it does'nt matters really!.....if u choose fame n glory..bla bla bla.. if not...keep it really2 underground...quiet real under...n dying...
but now mainstream is also dying ...sad but true...so ....
i rather buy 6/49 or 6d...toto..just to be on the safe side...
peace..to you OAG...Flop Poppy...hey andy i saw you on tv la...
butterfingers where are you? Tang? wow you rich now? megat..skin no more...you chosed mainstream....make sure you really whack it good...
you know la ...it wont last long....it's the Malaysian Things...la...thats what jason lo is all about bro...why people hates him so much?...coz they all are exactly like me 20 years ago...but i've changed now...after married with 3 kiddos..wow!!!
it just happen!....BRACE YOURSELVES DUDES... |
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| GryMlock |
| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm not discouraged lah. The UG scene has thought me a lot. no one can make me think otherwise. But it's not nice ler to put the blame on the UG scene just because your path lead to a different destination. For
A lot of the old guys are still doing it not because they want to achieve something. They just love doing it. Some went to hibernation for a while but I heard a small few are coming out again. Things are different now. You can get your songs on radio (if that's what you want), get into magazine's & newspapers (if that's what you want), and even on the tube (if that's what you want).
Obviously I'm not as senior as you. But looking back at the time I had with my JBHC & KLHC buddies. I definitely have no regrets. Such a rebellious bunch of kids weren't we? yea yo! 
One thing I'd like to share with you guys here is an article I read in college a while back. It's called "Art for Art Sake". Probably some might have read it already. It's not a long one (which i loike  ), but it's a good reading. Di pendekkan cerita, mesejnya ialah buat la sesuatu itu dengan berpada-pada tapi bukan utk semata-mata. Maybe you guys can google it or something. Everything is googlable nowadays
btw, mainstream is not dying... the physical CD sales is!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Langsuyr tubuh tahun 1991 masa aku form 4 hahaha... sekarang dah nak masuk anak ke-4 dah ni... album debut baru je keluar after 15 tahun muahahaha...
aku ni gitar tak berapa pandai tapi suka muzik Metal. Tapi aku sedar Metal 'ekstrim' ni tak leh kemana kat Malaysia ni so aku dok rilek je la... main lebih kurang. Tau kat mana aku berada. So just take it easy.
Kalau tengok scene overseas dulu, KALAU Langsuyr ni kat europe aku ingat dah setaraf dengan DISMEMBER ataupun IN FLAMES kot. Main festival, arena etc...
Cumanya, walaupun tak femes, album pun tak laku tapi ada la jugak bebudak yang suka lagu Langsuyr ni. Itu pun dah cukup la bagi aku. Sekali sekala lagu keluar kat radio gomen, aku tak penah dengar lagi, orang bagitau, itu pun aku dah rasa macam jakun muehehehe...
Secara zahirnya, aku ni macam orang biasa je. Kat ofis macam orang ofis lain takde beza. Kadang2 lebih ofis dari orang ofis tu sendiri hehehehe...
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| ishtaraidyl |
| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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ok lah bro....you guys just do lah....just wait for the balls to bounce back right to your face....if la...say 20years from now...i'll be a laughing grandfather....'told them already...but wont listen'....maybe this issues will still be debated...hmmm
relax la grmlock...just take it like this la....it the same like when our parents told us...to succeed in life u must be well educated...get a diploma...degree...master...phd...but some people listen n some degil la...
my message is dedicated to those degil kids which not from a "senang punya famili la.." internet pun kena g 10 batu punya cybercafe...
i dont condemn your effort on this....you are good person i believe. so do i..
underground scene taught me alot also...different is aku tua sikit....maybe aku tau lebih sikit...anggap je la post aku sebelum ni macam abang2 korang marah kat korang hisap rokok je...ape la...dia pun hisap gak tapi nk marah aku...
tapi bila korang dh kena kanser paru2...baru la ingat dulu masa kecik dulu abang aku dh ckp dh...ok la bro this is my last post....dont want to bother u anymore....to those band out there.....i do listen to your stuff....n still listening...peace n good luck...
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: zzz |
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| kakibiru |
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huaaha
panas,panas..syok baca semua org ada pandangan..siapa betul? siapa silap?siapa yg bertindak secara realistik? siapa pandai? siapa yang sengaja buat bodoh? hai mcm2.
apapun..industri muzik mcm tu jugak. jangan harap org lain yang ubah melainkan diri sendiri yg berubah. Soalan objectif untuk tengok diri sendiri.
Pilih satu jawapan aje bagi setiap soalan.
1) Saya main muzik kerana:
a) hobi
b) sumber pendapatan
c) nak tambah kenalan
2) Saya main muzik kerana:
a) cari peluang tambah pendapatan
b) nak jadi recording artist
c) hobi
3) saya main muzik kerana:
a) nak jadi kaya
b) hobi
c) nak popular
4) saya main muzik kerana:
a) ini sahaja kemahiran yg saya ada
b) dapat tawaran kerja sebagai pemuzik jabatan kerajaan
c) hobi
5) saya main muzik kerana:
a) saya ada bakat ,saya nak kongsikan dengan dunia
b) saya ingin tunjukkan sesuatu yg baru dalam industri muzik tanahair
c) hobi
6) saya main muzik kerana:
a) hobi
b) saya dari keluarga musician
c) nak cari duit
7) saya main muzik kerana:
a) nak masuk final muzik muzik tv3
b) nak main kat rottw soundstage
c) hobi
 saya main muzik kerana:
a) hobi
b) nak main kat rock the world
c) perform kat hard rock cafe @ planet hollywood
9) saya main muzik kerana:
a) nak dapat hidup mcm celebriti dalam mtv cribs
b) hobi
c) dpt gitar free dari ibanez / esp/ jackson
10) saya main muzik kerana :
a) diminati,dipuja mcm hillary
b) diminati, dikagumi mcm man kidal
c) hobi
..U.G or Mainstream...tak kisahla.
apa pun pegangan & perjuangan ...fikiran kita mesti akan
memilih yang terbaik dan paling selesa untuk kita tempohi setiap hari.
So, tahniah mawi. Tak sia-sia belajar baca kitap,hafal banyak doa.
hasilnya, bakat nyanyian yang cipot tu tetap dirahmati dgn rezeki
yang melimpah.
Kepada kita, yang tak dapat apa yg mawi dapat...tak mampu buat apa yg mawi buat...perahkan aje otak,carila idea..hasilkan karya yang boleh menarik seramai-ramainya manusia untuk meminatinya..tak kirala untuk lagu radio ataupun underground.......huahhaahaaa.chow |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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ello,
saya masih keliru, what is the meaning of being "underground" and "mainstream"?
bagi saya macam sama je, sebab as soon as you get other people to like your songs, secara otomatik you pun jadi mainstream?
anyway, saya suka dengan konsep being independent.Without a big label to dictate you what to do or sing songs that you do not like.total freedom. |
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject: kuaa kuaaa kuaaaaa kuaaaa?!!! treeeng! |
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peh!,
tengok tu!.....hmmmm..semua orang gumbira sampai buat ketas peksa la... aku main musik sebab nak untung....apasal takde lak jawapan tu..lagi2 aku kaya, lagi2 aku kaya...lagi2 hobi...langsuir punya statement gak aku kasi academy award.....best!...
aku main chord e major punca ganda 2 seven = mc2 - chord yang bersangkutan dgn teori relativity einstein..terer, tentu terer....yang ni dah terlebih educated ni. (melampau ni..)
pernah dengar tak cerita pasal seekor monyet pandai menyanyi lagu melayu? pada satu masa dulu semua orang suka dia nyanyi....setiap kali dia buat gig je..penoh satu stadium..dia buat show je, lenggang satu town orang pegi tengok dia...promoter dan recording lable dia jadi kaya raya...dia nyanyi, pitching tak lari...sebijik wa cakap luuu..
tapi monyet tu dah mati kena pukul dek orang......
tau pasal apa?
sebab dia nyanyi lagu zainal abidin...
'kita serupa'. pernah dengar tak?
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| GryMlock |
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