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| mati besi |
 Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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honestly,
aku tak percaya ni sume "tube distortion pedal" yg ade tube kat dalam. Coz kalau nak tube punye tone, the real distortion come from the power amp section, not much from the preamp. Jadi ni sume pedal yg ade tube kat dalam macam "hype" ah, and harga pun lagi mahal compared to distortion pedal biasa.
Thats why i would stick to distortion pedal biasa and my tube amp  |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| mati besi wrote: | honestly,
aku tak percaya ni sume "tube distortion pedal" yg ade tube kat dalam. Coz kalau nak tube punye tone, the real distortion come from the power amp section, not much from the preamp. Jadi ni sume pedal yg ade tube kat dalam macam "hype" ah, and harga pun lagi mahal compared to distortion pedal biasa.
Thats why i would stick to distortion pedal biasa and my tube amp |
Ada betul juga.
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| Dufresne |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Pwr amp distortion is nice, but to me its like limiting what an amp can do. U turn an amp into a 1 tricked pony; it can only give u a great distortion, n thats it. Ur crunch will be too much & ur cleans, well wont be that clean anymore la. Thats why these guitarist, like touring guitarist/rockstars, they would use one amp for distortion, & another amp for cleans. Sape la kat sini yg bwk 2 amp main kat gig pon?
Thats why i think preamp distortion is just as important as pwr amp distortion. Pwr amp distortion is wayyy to loud anyway, even Eddie Van Halen had a hard time using that setup during the early yrs of VH. Tube dist pedals ni ade cara nak pakai, & slalunye pedal2 ni preamp jugak, some r build & design even better than a lot of tube amps. My 2 cents...
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| mati besi |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ya can say both as important la, but then again we only talking abt pedals |
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| browndog2woof |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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fretted bros,
aku nak pakai tube echo lak, drive2 aku serah kat korang je lah bros, time out kat sini...aku tunggu tube guitar lak kalau ada org membuatnya...ha ha ha! anyway, kalo nak crank kan sweet spot kat 100 watters tube amp, mampoih..
aku prefer clean tube amp, aku dalam hidup aku tak pernah blast 4 biji el34 atau 6l6c (laney 100 tube amp ada switch to select tubes). jimi hendrix pon lanyak 2 kt 66 power tubes, then baru 4 biji el34. sekarang, apa2 pon boleh....kalau nak lebih jelas boleh tanya dimebag....biaskan lah tube tu sampai terbakar plate, pakai lak vari ac kat power trans...hmmm, macam pernah dengar je...
dufsrene kata tak kan nak pikul 2 biji amp, betul tu....tapi kalau ada roadie, atau macai, ok la...dulu problem dgn volume tak cukup, sekarang problem volume tak betul, dia boleh blast gile2 sampai 30 (mosfet amps)..aku suka breakup kat preamp section, heavy atau tak, maksud aku drive tu, masing2 punya selera. concept yg sama kat jcm 800 single chanel...sekarang dan 4 chanel dah, macam mini compo lak, semua dalam satu....(bukan shampoo ka?)
dulu masuk lak fuzz roger mayer, masok lak amp 50 watts dah blast habis habisan (habis pulas)....contribution of germanium transistor kat pedal, 12ax7 punye contribution, masuk kat rectifier tube gz34 lak punye contribution dan breakup kat kt66 2 biji punya contribution (lebih kurang 25 watts sebiji)...pergh! semua orang terjun tingkap!
pendek kata, preamp section tu more on tone shaping, power amp tu nak amplified kan to the volume wattage.......pedal tu, hak masing2 la, tube ka, tak tube ka (sekarang banyak sangat pedal kencing guna nama tube ni, crap betul, macam mat besi cakapla...)...its a free country, sebab tu banyak benda dah tak free lagi...sana tol, sini tol...berak pon kena bayar 50 sen kekadang...ha ha ha! sorila aku dah merapu ni, tajuk apa tadi haa?..
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