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| omarjamaludin |
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| darrenbkl |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| erm...i face a problem tat is when i record,the thing seems to delay a bit. They say is wat latency problem.wat is tat? and how to solve it?? |
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| okta |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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latency tu ko bole kurengkan dengan turunkan buffer size audio device ko.
it depends on wat soundcard ur using. Most soundcard with ASIO drivers can have low latency. |
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| GryMlock |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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si huzai muncul2 jek terus nak serang gua hahaha camsial
ya ya ..keyword... ASIO... buffer
kalau takde ASIO.. google ASIO4ALL. read the FAQ and the supported sound cards.. kalau ada.. install that. BUt if your soundcard already has ASIO.. then forget bout asio4all.
anyway baru jek bulan lepas aku try record pakai onboard soundcard installed with ASIO4ALL. ok jek masa tu. dapat lah jugak record.
new uploaded song from Laila's Lounge - Warm cherry house. 2 rhythm tracks recorded pakai onboard card with ASIO4ALL. guitar miking kat dalam jamming studio pakai mr. flying elk punya Samson USB condenser mic. acoustic guitar pun pakai Samson mic but direct connect to PC.
overall ok lah for DIY low budget recordings.
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| darrenbkl |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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erm...wat is AISO??i use adobe audition.whenever i wanna record a new track in a new session,it will pop up a thing say wat......ASIO ,i just ignore it,haha.  |
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| omarjamaludin |
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it's a better software driver for enabling your soundcard to 'talk' to your PC
from wiki:
ASIO (Audio Stream Input/Output) is a protocol for low-latency digital audio specified by Steinberg.
ASIO provides an interface between an application and the sound card. Whereas Microsoft’s DirectSound is typically for stereo input and output for consumers, ASIO provides for the needs of musicians and sound engineers. ASIO offers a relatively simple way of accessing multiple audio inputs and outputs independently.
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| darrenbkl |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| ok,i download the ASIO4ALL alrd,and jz install then the problem will solve?? |
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| danger3s |
| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| darren, i've never used Adobe Audition before, but I guess you have to find a setting somewhere in there to change your default sound driver to asio4all. asio4all is good in a way that you'll have virtually very latency. But my experience with them, your track will be slightly off. Not a big problem though as you can re-arrange them later. |
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| GryMlock |
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| huzai |
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| agogok |
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thanks for all. banyak benda aku belajar kat thread ni. buat homestudio pun suka2 je. bukan cari makan, tapi mmg dah minat. ada beberapa menda nak ditanya
1. 'midi map'- apa menda tuh? biasa jumpa dlm sonar6, tapi tak xplore lagi. aku takde midi keyboard. so, guna piano roll view dlm sonar6 untuk insert midi note. mmg leceh sikit, tapi dah biasa guna cara ni. kalau nak guna pc keyboard mcmana aa?
2. di awal thread ni mr blehbleh ada citer pasal mixer, adakah mixer yg dimaksudkan tu mixer besar atas meja (mcm kat recording studio tu) atau mixer dlm recording software? apa yg aku guna selama ni selain dari Boss MT2, semuanya ada dlm pc. dari amp, cabinet, pedal fx (delay, flanger, chorus.. semua tu) semuanya aku kenal dari pc.. untungnye ada pc, cuma tak power je.
3. dlm sonar 6 ada VST Plug-in 'Alien Connection Revalver'. mcm nak guna plug-in ni secara realtime? aku penah try kat midi specialist(lowyat) secara realtime, sound pun ok. balik rumah buat tak jadi. ada sesape tau?
4. mcamana nak setting supaya 2 gtr boleh pakai serentak dlam Guitar Rig 2, (for jamming purpose) aku guna soundcard EMU 0404 (ada 2 line input). agak blur dgn audio routing soundcard ni.
5. mcmana pulak cara korang record. kalau tak keberatan boleh kongsikan setup korang kat sini. Cara yg aku guna,
open Guitar Rig2 and set everything from there-record in sonar. dulu masa pakai onboard soundcard aku buat dry record
baru apply fx dlm sonar. kalau nak dry record, tapi nak pakai distort, mcmana nak keluarkan distort (realtime)
6. problem sampai sekarang ni. masa tgh record, tetiba tempo jadi lambat, sound rosak & keluar 'audio dropout'. terus stop. masa playback pun ada bunyi yg mengacau terutama bila insert banyak plug in fx & MIDI track. adakah ini sbb low memory or something else? perlu upgrade rAM or processor kurang power?
7. ada 1 sample, yg aku rekod (bukan lagu sendiri) mcmana nak tampal kat sini? mintak dikomen.
8. Behringer Ultra G, huh,, mcm menarik je. ada aku sambau ni kang. ada sesapa dah/penah pakai. komen sikit.
sblm ni pakai Amplitube2, lps jumpa Guitar Rig 2, terus melekat sampai skrg. Amp aku pun cap telinga jugak, ada amp modeling & tapi takbleh record dari amp ke pc.
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| Erylasia |
| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| agogok wrote: |
1. 'midi map'- apa menda tuh? biasa jumpa dlm sonar6, tapi tak xplore lagi. aku takde midi keyboard. so, guna piano roll view dlm sonar6 untuk insert midi note. mmg leceh sikit, tapi dah biasa guna cara ni. kalau nak guna pc keyboard mcmana aa? |
= midi map nih gunanya untuk ko nak programing midi,, tak perlukan midi keyboard pon takpa,.. cth kalau ko nak programkan midi drum ke,.. lepas tuh ko leh guna sampler2 (vsti), untuk kasi real... pc keyboard sonar tak bleh kot,, kalau FL studio bleh,.. tapi tak syok ahh pakai pc keyboard,... hihihi
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2. di awal thread ni mr blehbleh ada citer pasal mixer, adakah mixer yg dimaksudkan tu mixer besar atas meja (mcm kat recording studio tu) atau mixer dlm recording software? apa yg aku guna selama ni selain dari Boss MT2, semuanya ada dlm pc. dari amp, cabinet, pedal fx (delay, flanger, chorus.. semua tu) semuanya aku kenal dari pc.. untungnye ada pc, cuma tak power je. |
= mixer tak perlu bro,.. lain laa ko nak rakam analog,, or nak rakam drum,.
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3. dlm sonar 6 ada VST Plug-in 'Alien Connection Revalver'. mcm nak guna plug-in ni secara realtime? aku penah try kat midi specialist(lowyat) secara realtime, sound pun ok. balik rumah buat tak jadi. ada sesape tau?
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= Soundcard ko support Asio tak,.. zero latency?.. kalau dah support,.. ko setting kat sonar ko,, option->Audio ->advanced-> kat drive mode pilih Asio.. pastuh kat mixer windows ko,, or mixer application soundcard ko,.. ko kene mute kan output dia,.. dah kat sonar plak ko add laa Vst yg ko nak pakai tuh lepas tuh click kat track yg ade logo lebih kurang cam nih
))) dia duduk tepi M S R....... lepas tuh main lerr kalau nak rakam tekan record,.. hihihii
| agogok wrote: |
4. mcamana nak setting supaya 2 gtr boleh pakai serentak dlam Guitar Rig 2, (for jamming purpose) aku guna soundcard EMU 0404 (ada 2 line input). agak blur dgn audio routing soundcard ni. |
= yg nih orang lain leh jawab waa tak pernah buat,..hihihi
| agogok wrote: |
5. mcmana pulak cara korang record. kalau tak keberatan boleh kongsikan setup korang kat sini. Cara yg aku guna,
open Guitar Rig2 and set everything from there-record in sonar. dulu masa pakai onboard soundcard aku buat dry record
baru apply fx dlm sonar. kalau nak dry record, tapi nak pakai distort, mcmana nak keluarkan distort (realtime) |
= aku tak pernah record pakai distortion pc,.. orang lain leh jawab hihi
| agogok wrote: |
6. problem sampai sekarang ni. masa tgh record, tetiba tempo jadi lambat, sound rosak & keluar 'audio dropout'. terus stop. masa playback pun ada bunyi yg mengacau terutama bila insert banyak plug in fx & MIDI track. adakah ini sbb low memory or something else? perlu upgrade rAM or processor kurang power? |
hah kalau lambat itu disebabkan oleh latency,..hihi set to asio
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7. ada 1 sample, yg aku rekod (bukan lagu sendiri) mcmana nak tampal kat sini? mintak dikomen. |
= upload laa kat mana2 .. pi google ,, searh upload mp3 free,.. pastuh past link kat sini,..
| agogok wrote: |
8. Behringer Ultra G, huh,, mcm menarik je. ada aku sambau ni kang. ada sesapa dah/penah pakai. komen sikit.
sblm ni pakai Amplitube2, lps jumpa Guitar Rig 2, terus melekat sampai skrg. Amp aku pun cap telinga jugak, ada amp modeling & tapi takbleh record dari amp ke pc. |
amp modeling ape bro?... Pod? V-amp? or what?
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| danger3s |
| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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aku pun akan menjawab juga. nak tambah sikit2 je.
1. midi map - ni generally adalah kedudukan note2 atau instrument pada keyboard. example; snare=f3 , cymbal = g3
Tapi map yang berlainan mungkin lain. example; snare = f5 , cymbal = g5
2. mixer yg aku maksudkan tu adalah hardware. Tak perlu besar2 tapi alang2 nak beli nanti belilah yag besar punya sebab it's long term investment.
3. Have to pass this. Maybe ko boleh bukak satu thread baru, cite ape ko buat & tak buat. Kita boleh troubleshoot same2
4. OK aku tak pernah buat tapi it's possible to do that. Tapi aku guna cubase so it might be different. Route input from soundcard to two different tracks then apply insert>amb2/gr2 on each track. Tekan butang 'monitor' on each track supaya boleh dengar bunyi in real-time. PLay
5. Ni pun aku hanya bleh jawab dari segi technical cubase. Harap2 ko leh cari camne nak apply kat sonar based on this. On specific track ; Insert > amb2/gr2
6. kalau dah set to asio & still ade prob ni, prob your RAM or processor. First try close2 apa2 aplication selain DALAM sonar tu sebelum recording. Sebab tu aku x recommend pakai stand alone mode, contohnye macam amb2 live, gr2 pun ada jugak stand alone mode.
Better use them as plug-in, record raw guitar while monitor masa recording utk real-time 'feel', pastu process trus, tak perlu leave software ko always ON. This way ko takkan clog computer ko dengan macam2 plug-ins, memang meletup la jawabnye nanti heheh..
7. soundclick aku paling suka
8. yup same question, amp modeling apa tu yg takleh record ke pc?
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8. Behringer Ultra G, huh,, mcm menarik je. ada aku sambau ni kang. ada sesapa dah/penah pakai. komen sikit.
sblm ni pakai Amplitube2, lps jumpa Guitar Rig 2, terus melekat sampai skrg. Amp aku pun cap telinga jugak, ada amp modeling & tapi takbleh record dari amp ke pc.
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Ibanez RG 370DX
BOSS MT-2
BEHRINGER V-Tone 110GMX
INTEL Pentium 4 2.66MHz
512MB RAM
80GB H/D
EMU 0404[/quote]
pada firasat saya laaa...
anda menggunakan 110GMX yang menggunakan 'Classic amp modeling'
kan ker amp anda ada line out / phone / output ???
Classic Amp Modeling pada GMX110 nih same mcm amp modelling pada GDI21..
cuma bezanya GDI21 lebih high-gain..
mcm GMX110 lebih kepada Overdrive...
sori kalau tersilap maklumat...
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