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RikiRaikonnen
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: PC setup Reply with quote



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Bros sekelian,

Mintak tolong, aku plan nak beli PC baru dan plan nak cucuk gitar kat PC. Ada member suggest beli monitor speaker la, guna DI box la.. aku haram tak faham.. kalau kalian sudi tolong aku boleh lah aku teruskan projek aku ni..

What do I need to have apart from the standard PC? perlu ada better soundcard ke, perlu ada POD ke, perlu ada powered monitor speaker, mixer ke.. mintak korang tolong bagi specification..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Ni secara basic je la pendapat kampungan aku:

ko teruskan je niat kau untuk beli PC tu.. dan ko beli sekali satu soundcard khas untuk recording. Soundcard khas ni akan membolehkan ko cucuk guitar direct ke soundcard dan sound akan keluar mcm tak ada latency bila ko record. Kalau ko guna soundcard multimedia yg biasa, akan ada problem latency ketara. Bahasa mudahnya, latency ni maksudnya bila ko petik guitar, bunyi guitar tu keluar kat speaker pc tu lambat sesaat. Mmg tak menyeronokkan.

Beli soundcard mcm ni (contoh aja). Ni mungkin harga dia dlm rm400 lebih:

MAYA 44 MKII


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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bro,
klau laptop cmne lak erk? ade externl nyer s/c cmtu x? any recommendation?
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deadzid
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok, mcm yg Izzi explain, basically untuk setup pc atau laptop supaya jadi home-studio, kena ada soundcard / audio interface yg khas utk recording.. ada banyak brand audio interface kat pasaran skarang ni, connection dari soundcard tu ke pc / laptop pon ada a few options:
  1. USB
  2. FireWire
  3. PCI (desktop)
  4. PCMCIA (laptop)
so, once kita dah determine kaedah connection yg kita ndak, then pilih pulak apa input/output yg kita perlukan.... contoh; bagi bedroom guitarist mcm aku ni, aku ndak soundcard yg boleh record guitar /bass dan vocals... tapi maybe bagi org lain nak soundcard yg boleh cucuk keyboard, midi controler, etc.. so terpulang pada requirement masing2...

aku guna office aku punya notebook utk buat keje2 music ni... so aku perlukan external soundcard yg pakai connection USB (pasal notebook ni takde firewire port... nak beli PCMCIA soundcard out of budget lak hehe)... dan aku nak soundcard yg ada standard 1/4" input jack (utk record guitar / bass) dan XLR input with phantom power (in case aku nak record thru condenser microphone in the future)..

so aku terjumpa offer (second hand) Line 6 TonePort UX2 which meets my requirement... dan unit ni menjadi pilihan aku utk keje2 song writing... mudah dibawa ke mana-mana, just bawak notebook + TonePort + guitar, lepak tepi tasik cari ilham buat lagu, then terus record on the spot! huhuhu..

utk laptop / pc, aku suggest pakai processor Intel Core Duo (lagi bagus kalau Core 2 Duo), ram at least 1Gb (in the future nanti mesti nak pakai banyak VST / plugins), and of course, huge amount of harddisk space...


lepas ni nak kena decide pulak which software nak guna utk sequencing / mixing / recording / etc... Rolling Eyes been there, done that! huhuh
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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bro Deadzid, agak2 brape market price for Line 6 TonePort UX2 skrg?kt kl kedai mana ade jual?tq.
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deadzid
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Price check last month:
  1. TonePort UX1 = RM500
  2. TonePort UX2 = RM800+
  3. TonePort KB37 = RM1200+

product Line 6 boleh didapati di CK Music Sdn Bhd
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Zid.. thanks for the info.. my main purpose is just to play the guitar via desktop yang aku bakal beli.. kalau nak record pun sekadar nak dengar balik camna aku main.. camtu jugak ke atau ada improvement.. bedroom player je..

aku checkout website Line6 ada macam2.. ada toneport, guitarport etc.. kalau dari pemahaman aku.. guitarport macam lebih sesuai dgn needs aku. so soalan seterusnya?

1) kalau aku beli guitarport or toneport, untuk cucuk ke PC, perlu ke aku invest soundcard canggih macam Izzi suggest tu.. atau yang datang sekali dgn motherboard tu dah memadai

2) kalau aku gatal terbeli Podxt live (less likely), bole cucuk ke PC direct macam toneport / guitarport ke? perlu ada soundcard canggih jugak ke? Podxt live ni ada semua capabilities toneport & guitarport ke..

3) Pakai speaker multimedia (satellite + subwoofer) OK tak sound dia, atau perlu beli monitor speaker macam Behringer ke..

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oo kalau setakat nak main guitar thru desktop, tak payah la soundcard canggih2 sangat.... aku ingat ko nak setup pc utk buat song writing, recording, kerja2 studio, etc..

Answer 1:
actually, TonePort tu kira mcm soundcard la... once ko plug-in Toneport, ko dah tak perlu built-in soundcard ko tu, just disabled kan aje... TonePort ni kira mcm soundcard with built-in guitar amp modeler + efx! (soundcard biasa mana ada guitar efx dlm dia, kan?) huhu so kalau nak dengar balik apa yg ko main / playback apa yg ko dah rekod / dengar mp3, etc semua tu boleh dengar thru TonePort punya line-out / headphone out / S-PDIF...

Answer 2:
not sure about PODxt Live, tapi kalau tak silap, banyak features yg ada pada TonePort tapi takde dlm PODxt (cth mcm bass punya amp simulator).. tapi ada jugak features PODxt Live yg takde pada Toneport (cth: expression pedal, footswitch, etc hehehe)... further details kena tanya ultraman_cosmo la..

Answer 3:
since ko just nak main guitar direct ke PC, aku rasa tak payah la invest utk monitor speaker yg mahal2 tu.. sbb monitor speaker tu guna dia time nak mixing lagu, nak analyse frequency, leveling dgn track lain, etc.. pakai je la speaker multimedia biasa pon ok dah kot... tak pon cucuk je kat guitar amp pon boleh hehhuhuhu...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kalau utk jamming dgn PC, ni ada a few gadgets utk connect guitar to PC..


M-Audio JamLab
Personal Guitar System




StealthPlug
Guitar/Bass USB Audio Interface Cable




Behringer Guitar Link UCG102
Guitar-to-USB Interface to Jam and
Record with Modeling Amps and Effects





Behringer U-Control UCA202
Ultra low-latency 2 In/2 Out USB/Audio
Interface with Digital Output

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: stealthplug Reply with quote



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bro zid,

yg stealthplug tu khas digunakan untuk amplitube kan?
berapa harga dan mana nak carik?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aku tak sure la kat mesia dah ada distributor utk StealthPlug atau belom.. rasa mcm belom ada lagi jual kat mesia...

sbg alternatif, maybe boleh try Behringer Guitar Link tu... aku rasa dia sama je mcm StealthPlug cuma software yg dia include tak sama... Behringer tu pakai Guitar Rig Behringer Edition..

tapi tak kisah sebenarnya, as long ada interface between guitar dan pc, pakai software apa pon takde masalah.. nak pakai Amplitube ke, Guitar Rig ke, cuma maybe Line 6 GearBox je takleh kot hehehe..
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: stealthplug Reply with quote



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deadzid wrote:
aku tak sure la kat mesia dah ada distributor utk StealthPlug atau belom.. rasa mcm belom ada lagi jual kat mesia...

sbg alternatif, maybe boleh try Behringer Guitar Link tu... aku rasa dia sama je mcm StealthPlug cuma software yg dia include tak sama... Behringer tu pakai Guitar Rig Behringer Edition..

tapi tak kisah sebenarnya, as long ada interface between guitar dan pc, pakai software apa pon takde masalah.. nak pakai Amplitube ke, Guitar Rig ke, cuma maybe Line 6 GearBox je takleh kot hehehe..


oooo..gitu ke..
kalau Behringer Guitar Link tu bole guna ngan amplitube, mana plak nak dapat kan nye?..berapa harga?..
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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try usya kat sini...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: TQ Reply with quote



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deadzid wrote:
try usya kat sini...


huhu..mahal gak considering ianye cuma nak digunakan sebagai lubang connect guitar je..anyway thanks zid!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aisey.. hang terlambat... baru2 ni ada budak tolak Line 6 GuitarPort RM150 je! giler murah!
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