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ultraman_cosmo
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Shred Master Marshall Reply with quote

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Semalam aku try shred Master marshall made UK


- aku perasan dia punya gain mula 3/4 baru ader banyak distortion.
- dan dia punya bass dan treble tak berapa jauh range dia.
- contour knob yang boleh tahan bantu utk carik tone dari fat sampai metal.
- harming juga kat amp aku, maybe sebab aku letak depan speaker.

Satu part aku suka pedal ne,
- transparent giler.
- boleh dengar seketul seketul tali and finger play.
- aku try ts9 boosting, oooo... guitar hero trus bunyinya... hahhaah.

Ada korang yang pernah pakai pedal ne tak, aku ader 1 hari lagi nak test drive ini vintage pedal. bagi aku feedback skit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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fuh mane dapat ni, gile sought after..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Owner dia beli ebay UK kalo tak silap.
Selalunya kat uk la banyak, check ebay.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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i had this pedal 10yrs ago.
didnt like it Razz

sold it to eugene novokane/duke etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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3 of these are running on the fleabay right now. Not really interested with another distortion pedal but to some they are really collectible & desirable.

To quote someone who had sold one of these;

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If you are looking at this then you know you are looking at a classic marshall pedal that is no longer made and is now hard to find, these pedals are most famously used by Jonny Greenwood of Radiohead, to get his distorted sound you will need

1 Talent

2 Fender Telecaster Plus

3 Marshall Shredmaster

4 Boss Volume Pedal

5 Fender 85 Amp


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Everdying wrote:
i had this pedal 10yrs ago.
didnt like it Razz

sold it to eugene novokane/duke etc.


mate,
let me know ur review... both pro n con.
i need something idea bout this pedal for better tone.

- serius, aku suka this pedal sebab dia nyer transparent.
- macam pedal lain, kalo kita main kat tube amp, coloring jer dah menyebab amp nyer sweet hilang.
- this pedal tak macam tu.
- tapi pedal cam ne biasa perlukan skill main yang kaw. kalo tak, tak jadi magic.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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actually, imo these pedals are only collectible cos damn radiohead used them.
else they would now just be bargain pedals going for real cheap.
and if they were cheap, lots of nice spare parts in them Razz
thank god i had one before damn radiohead used them so i got it real real cheap.
if only i knew damn radiohead was gonna use it and boost the price up so much i wouldnt have sold it Razz

but uhhh, ok.
10yrs ago, abit hard to remember the pedal.
but IIRC high gains it was very fizzy sounding.
it will definitely work as a nice booster ala tube screamer style with the gain set at much lower.

anyway, right now there are more pedals that are transparent etc without spending so much on a overpriced-damn-radiohead-price-boosted shredmaster.
unless of cos you're a radiohead fan Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hahhaha,

totally agree. radiohead nyer ceta.

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but uhhh, ok.
10yrs ago, abit hard to remember the pedal.
but IIRC high gains it was very fizzy sounding.

- yea it sound something like that.


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it will definitely work as a nice booster ala tube screamer style with the gain set at much lower.

- lupo nak try this.
- i ill do it tonight.

thank
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ahaha the funny thing is, aritu ade orang jual bid naik sampai £180, tapi ade sekali lagi jual pulak £50 camtu je. pelik dan ajaib..
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2n night.

First, aku try jadikan Shred booster kepada amp and bandingkan dengan TS-9 n SD-1.
Tapi rasanya Shred lom sampai tahap booster yang cun. Tapi still boleh guna la.
- Still guna TS or SD or OD3 utk boost shred lebih berkesan.

Review skit pasal Shred.
- Memang tak boleh elak, ne bunyi lagu creep radiohead.
- Aku try simulate bunyi shred guna pedal lain, tapi shred master ne bunyi dia unik dari yang lain.
- gain knob - dari zero sampai 12 clock macam tak banyak perbezaan dan distort akan kuar banyak lepas 2 clock.
- Tapi caractor distortion dari segi suatain end dan grit aku boleh katakan antara pedal yang terbaik pernah aku main.
- Bass knob - bass pedal ne pelik berbanding pedal biasa, ia gunakan keadah bass filter. Mean, kalo kita set zero semacam freq bass kena cut. Tapi bila kita blast abis bass ia tak menokok nambah bass yang datang dari signal awal guitar. mean kalo guitar kureng bass maka pedal ne takan mekap the bass freq. Set knob max adalah pilihan aku. kurang dari 12 trus kering tone guitar.
- treble knob - treble ne lebih berkesan berbanding bass knob nyer kebolehan. Walopun range treble ne tak la jauh sangat tapi aku rasa ia dah cukup memadai. treble dalam all position pun ok depend dengan music.
- contour knob. Ne boleh kira magic nyer knob. Bagusnya knob ne adalah dari zero hingga around 2 oclock, ia menyebabkan note yang kita main clear dan tak tengelam. lebih dari 3/4 dah tak boleh pakai.
- volume knob - satu satunya pedal yang perlu blast 3 clock baru boleh balance dengan clean sound. If kita set volume kurang dari ne, pedal ne akan hilang headroom.
- overall - aku boleh katakan pedal ne memang padan dengan nama dia, Shred. Antara magik nya adalah, walaopun gain max dengan distortion banyak, clearity note still ada, contour boleh adjust supaya berapa kedepan bunyi guitar kita. Walo pun berapa fast main still note boleh dengar dengan clear tanpa bercampo dengan distortion.
- Pada pendapat aku, shred mesti cun dengan marshall amp sebab contour knob tu seolah olah satu function yang membantu honky tone pada marshall.
- Transparent pedal, Aku guna beberapa jenis guitar utk check pedal ne. Pada setting yang sama, lain guitar dan pickup beza dia gitu banyak sekali. Then aku try split amp, Shred utk solidstate akan banyak harsh freq tapi dekat tube amp it sound perfect. Macam MT-2, kalo kita tukar guitar pun bukan banyak beza sebab MT-2 punya mekap kira memang tebal tahap opera. Tapi terpulang la dengan teste kita awek mekap or natural beuty yang lebih lawa.
- susah sebenarnya nak carik pedal transparent sekarang.

Correct me am i wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: ahahak Reply with quote



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layan gak gua baca korang punya comment..

kalau ko tak nak.. jual le kat gua hehe.. tapi harga kawan la hahaha..

Kalau ko cakap nie bunyi distortion "creep".. aku rasa bole gak tahan..
itu pun kalau ko nie fan radioheads...

Ade ke "crunch" sound distortion pada pedal nie..?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ultraman..dah pulang ke pedal yg kau pinjam tu?..heheheh

ok, komen pasal marshall shredmaster.

1) Pedal ni sedap dan sangat handsome tonenya pada pendengaran aku.


- aku ada kawan yg pakai pedal ni. so, aku mintak bawak ke studio aku utk aku dan kekawan try apa tone pedal ni boleh kasi dan performance nye bila dimainkan semasa jamming.

masa try pedal ni @ jamming kita org guna:

gitar : les paul classic
strat w floydrose w standard hbuckers
strat w 57/62 pkup
strat w vintage 70's pkup
amps : Marshall MG100 / Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 40w

komen:

1) dari bluesrock ke malmsteen ..pedal ini memberi tone klasik yang lunak ..patutla jadi buruan.
pengalaman seorg member - man kidal yang biasanya cucuk terus gitar ke marshall ...tapi kalu ada gitarist lain pakai pedal ni dalam pertunjukkan yg sama...dia mesti pinjam pakai ( maknanya : pedal ni memang ada mojo buat kaki marshall).
So, sesiapa yg main muzik dalam kategori yg dijelaskan diatas, kalu jumpe ini pedal 4 sale, sambar! Biasanya pedal ni kalu pernah rosak dan telah dibaiki ( biasala pedal lama )..harganya murah sikit...tapi kalu keadaan NOS..pedal ni 2nd hand value boleh pegi 500 ke 800.
Ya, 800 kepada collector yang bukan beli unntuk simpan tapi untuk menikmati tone pedal ni yg lazat.


2) Masa try pedal ni...(bermalam-malam la jugak)..mojonya benar-benar menyerlah bila digunakan sewaktu jamming. Guna amp solidstate (MG100), bunyi yg keluar mcm JCM lama yg di crank sepenuhnya. WOW! Sound distortionnya klasik bersama harmonics yang secukup rasa dan terkawal. Old school shredders kalu try pedal ni dgn gitar hbuckers (les paul/ fat strat/ kramer / chavel maupun ibanez) mungkin tak nak letak dan berhenti main sampai subuh!

3) Dengan Hod Rod deluxe pulak , pedal ni di settingkan untuk blues rock ...best jugak..tapi biasala..member-member aku yg datang try bila dah dapat sound distort..lupe dirila..so..lagu dan solo-solo yg jadi pilihan mereka untuk pedal ni tentu dari : man kidal / gary moore / paul gilbert /
malmsteen / santana. Ringkas nya pedal ni boleh memuaskan nafsu mereka yang main muzik classicrock hingga ke heavy metal ( sebelum era metallica). Kira layanla pedal ni kalu anda kaki led zep/ black sabbath/ whitesnake/ deep purple/ rainbow/ ozzy dan seangkatan dengannye.

4) Radiohead? Hahaha...diaorg guna pedal ni (tak tahula betul ke tak)..untuk satu lagu aje. Tapi hype dia melampau. Apapun, untuk punk band , grunge mahupun brit pop..pedal ni memang boleh layan jugak. Pada aku pedal yg kira boleh kita dapat dipasaran sekrg yang hampir dengan pedal ni ialah proco rat @ turbo rat cuma shredmaster lebih versatile, lebih sustain lebih harmonic.
Kalu nak bandingkan dengan pedal butik ( * hot cakes/ ocd / direct drive dll)..memangla pedal ni ada byk kekurangannya TAPI kekurangan yang ada tula menjadikan ianya UNIK dan tersendiri.

* kelebihan & kekurangan yang terdapat pada sesuatu kejadian @ hasil seni menjadi titik pecahan kepada perbezaan pendapat, perbezaan selera dan perbezaan PILIHAN antara kita semua.


5) mengapa pedal ni xjadi pilihan aku sebab aku pakai odrive rendah yg agak-agak mcm semput, sengau dan berkerak sikit aje, TAPI, kalu old school shredders yg memang dah ada tone & mojo di jari lepas tu pakai pulak shredmaster...aku tahu aku akan enjoy menikmati bunyi yang keluar walaupun muzik yg dia mainkan bukan makanan harian aku. SALUTE!


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Satan Himself wrote:
layan gak gua baca korang punya comment..

kalau ko tak nak.. jual le kat gua hehe.. tapi harga kawan la hahaha..

Kalau ko cakap nie bunyi distortion "creep".. aku rasa bole gak tahan..
itu pun kalau ko nie fan radioheads...

Ade ke "crunch" sound distortion pada pedal nie..?


- aku pinjam jer, kawan punya, sebab aku nak tau aper tone disebalik shredmaster.
- aku dah anta balik pagi ne, tapi harap bileh pinjam lagi. lom puas lagi ne... hhahahah.
- "crunch" sound distortion pada pedal ne range dia kecik tol.. maybe gain dalan 2 clock to 2.30 clock jer,,, lepas 3 ia dah jadi headroom nyer distortion.
- aku selalu main lagu creep masa study dulu sekirannya dah tak tau main lagu aper. chord simpoi... hhahahaha.
- Santan [tambah 'n'] aper lagi, angkat satu... hhehehe

kakibiru,
- nice review. Wah aku dah dapat idea lagi nak test benda ne..
- biru, siapa nama abang yang engineer JKR yang pakai gibson dan shredmaster masa kita duduk kat warung kat gombak aritu.
- Shredmaster dia pun UK juga kann.

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Guna amp solidstate (MG100), bunyi yg keluar mcm JCM lama yg di crank sepenuhnya.

- yang ne aku kena try.

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3) Dengan Hod Rod deluxe pulak , pedal ni di settingkan untuk blues rock ...best jugak..tapi biasala

- Ya blues tone, aku ada try set gain lebih skit, tapi aku kasih tumpol treble ala ala blues gemok. And dia punya sweet presence masih kuar walopun treble kurang separuh. even harmonic still there. Tapi aku tak layan blues banyak malam tadi.. chet... kena pinjam lagi ne hahhahaha.

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Pada aku pedal yg kira boleh kita dapat dipasaran sekrg yang hampir dengan pedal ni ialah proco rat @ turbo rat cuma shredmaster lebih versatile, lebih sustain lebih harmonic.

- part harmonic ne aku terlupa nak habaq.
- harmonic dia memang jelas terutama bila gain lebih.
- Disebabkan aku ne habit pick guitar dekat neck pickup jadi kalo jadi picking harmonic memang selalu. Jelas dan sustain bagus.

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Ringkas nya pedal ni boleh memuaskan nafsu mereka yang main muzik classicrock hingga ke heavy metal ( sebelum era metallica). Kira layanla pedal ni kalu anda kaki led zep/ black sabbath/ whitesnake/ deep purple/ rainbow/ ozzy dan seangkatan dengannye.

- maybe sebab ne tetiba telinga aku bekenan kot hahahhaha.
- tapi utk metal tajam blade nyaer rasanya tak dapat kuar kat shred. pakai eq lain ceta la mungkin.

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* kelebihan & kekurangan yang terdapat pada sesuatu kejadian @ hasil seni menjadi titik pecahan kepada perbezaan pendapat, perbezaan selera dan perbezaan PILIHAN antara kita semua.

- ayat pujangga LARA... bunyi frust bercinta... hhahahah

DIA DAH MAI DAH hheheheh
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Sambar je!! Reply with quote



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Tengok le dulu.. ishibashi takde stok.. ebay harge bunuh kawan punya..
Kena tengok ler dulu.. $$$ dah abih kat 2 nos silver screw bulan nie..
Kena tengok budget bulan depan ler..

ko takde ke pedal lain nak recommend?
Expandora macam mana? gua tengok harge not bad ler.. bagi review sikit sape2
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kalo marshall type distort = guv nor >> distortion kat mid range freq.
try proco RAT ker.
or
SD-9 ibanez
- teringat aku ader kwn sms nak tolak pedal ne malam tadi
- katanya nak trade dengan ts9. ada berani
- http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Ibanez/SD-9+Distortion/10/1

tapi kalo nak effect dist ala modern sekarang, beli jer pod.. semua ada... tapi bunyi pod la.

Balik ceta pasal shred master ne.
- sebenarnya pedal shredmaster radiohead dah modify.
- ditambah gain dan siap dengan remote gain.
- sebenarnya memang betul shredmaster dan turbo rat ne ada kesinambungan.
- tapi shred lebih kepada marshall sound dan rat lebih kepada proco dist sound.
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