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mooshee
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: downstroke picking Reply with quote



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hi guys...
sy ada masalah ngan downstroke.. masalah nya lengan sy cepat cramp kalau men lama2 downstroke sahaja. pasti anda juga mengalami nya bukan?? boleh x korang share discipline training korang untuk elak lengan cramp? for sure teknik downstroke syg x betul. sy da try untuk relax kan lengan tapi still the same. adakah pick main peranan jugak? thanks in advance guys
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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while picking... which part of your arm got problem?
make sure you used whole parts of you hand & arm to reduce the impact...
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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kdg2 konfius gak, kita patut guna tenaga mana utk pick downstroke/laju? kbykn org ckp patut guna wrist atau max lengan bwh je..tak bagus klau pakai lengan atas ke bahu. mungkin kat situ kot punca cramp tu..?
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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hmmm,, saya pun pernah kena mcm bro mooshe gak..skrg pun selalu kena.. tapi saya bese cramp kat bhgian antara siku dengan pergelanggan tangan..kdg2 sampai bahu pun de jgak.. tp x thu la bro mooshe cramp blah mana... kdg2 klu saya men alternate picking pun mcm tu jugak... lagi2 klu nak trainig speeding.. cepat betul pancit tangan kiri saya bila picking the notes... tu yg ble nak mian tu rasa x selesa nak picking tali tu timbul.... asal main je.. rasa x selesa kemudian cramp.. tu je la yg duk ngulang kat saya setiap kali main gitar electric... bro cosmo leh tlg nie... hehehe, bro huzai ke izzi ke erylasia ke deadzid ke.. ni semua otai2 i-bands nie... hehehehe...
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aku pun tak tahu...
tapi aku try mane2 pun bleh cramp...
kalau dah selalu practice... kurang laa cramp tu...

same mcm berlari kot...
klau jarang berlari cepat la cramp..
sebelum berlari kena buat senaman regangan dulu...

sape2 ade petua senaman regangan tangan untuk main gitar? (bukan jari jer)
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mooshee
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku selalu cramp bahagian kat bahagian tendon antara siku ngan pergelangan tgn. some say pergelangan tangan kita yg sepatutnya bergerak dan cuba relax kan bahagian tendon tu tadi. tapi masalahnya camner nk relaxkan bahagian tu? aish part subjective ni. aku belajar gitar dulu dlm 4 tahun lepas instructor aku kata kalau sakit tang situ teknik x betul lagi. aish... aku dok terperap kat sini le lagi bape tahu ni. rasa urat nk terkeluar tgn kiri aku( aku lefthanded)..... so tu yg bertanya teknik and exercise yg betul tu kat korang
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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memandang kan aku sedang cuti sebulan setengah ni... aku ingat akan spend masa sejam untuk downstroke picking start dari tempo slow hingga laju yg aku selasa unutk minggu ni and aku bg tahu result kat korang. amcam guys?
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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good idea bro..jgn cam aku cuti 3 bulan sentuh gtr brape kali je Razz. aku suggest ko try gak tempo slow - laju - pastu slow balik - pastu laju balik utk merasekan efek prektis tu..ni biasenye tips alternate pick, tapi mane tau berkesan gak utk downstroke ke?

utk exercise tangan try carik video john petrucci - rock discipline..mase intro die jadi cikgu pendidikan jasmani jap, ajar cara stretching ngan massage tangan utk warm up
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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rock dicipline tu aku cuba nk practice kan style warm up dier. aku da lama download e book cuma x de masa nk wat. aku nk try method tu and warm up... mintak2 la aku x malas
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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Ok... It's simple actually to solve your problem.. Learn how to relax... If you start to stiffen up your arm while downstroking... stop... then start again... If you force it you risk getting RSI - Repetitive Strain Injury - Just like what happened to Dr. Bode last year...

Obviously just like bro Sangap said, it also helps if you practice SLOWLY to a metronome gradually picking up speed as you get comfortable with one tempo... before you know it you will be downstroking those "chugga-chugga" riffs like you are possessed by Satan himself Wink

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SANGAP
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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yeah bro ridzi..heard u're one of the masters, if not the master of downstroking here hehe.

relax tu tip yg paling bagus, tapi klau bleh nak tau gak ko banyak pakai tenaga part tangan yg mana eh masa downstroke? i'm guessing the wrist? aku rasa tu je part yang paling tak stiff kalau kita cuba utk relax..
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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playing at a slow tempo wit tha metronome and increasing the speed slowly building up. being relaxed .. if ure tense means ure going to fast.. Confused guitar players like me otherwise are impatient hehe
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