back to main area
   

i-bands.net [READ ONLY MODE]
Articles  Articles   FAQ  FAQ   Search  Search   Memberlist  Memberlist   Usergroups  Usergroups
Register  ::  Log in Log in to check your private messages


Post new topic  Reply to topic Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 electric guitar sting..help2 « View previous topic :: View next topic » 
Author Message
oncet
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:58 am    Post subject: electric guitar sting..help2 Reply with quote



Joined: 25 May 2009
Posts: 40
Location: pontian, johor

otai2..
nk mintak pendapat sikit..
string brand ape yg tahan lama dan lmbat karat
sy tgn jenis cepat brpeluh mgkin sbb 2 string yg slalu sy pakai karat..
string yg biase sy pkai ernie ball..pling lama tahan pon cume 2,3 mggu je
pas 2 trus timbol kekaratan..
harap otai2 disini bleh bg advice..
sory soklan cam bangang..sy masih baru lg..heheh
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
eniQma
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

King Korek

Joined: 28 Nov 2009
Posts: 4040
Location: enigma di Kuala Lumpur

hmm...
ada jugak org kata laa...Ernie Ball ni "Rust Magnet" huhu
...(betul ke tak, wallahu'alam..sbb aku tak penah pakai Ernie's strings nih huhuhu)
cuba ko lap lepas ko pakai...sbb tgn ko jenis yg berpeluh atau
cuba switch ke strings yg lain...D'Addario ke...etc2
tak pon kalau memang taknak karat...cuba Elixir Anti Rust String
http://www.elixirstrings.com/products/product_electric.html
aku pon tak tau performance dia mcm ne..tp ko try laa...huhuhu
kat mana nak beli?
rasanya kat sini susah nak cari...
mebi kengkawan kita kat sini leh bantu...!!
Abg Ultraman!!tolong!!

aku bukan otai tp cuma nak tolong..huhuhu
_________________
I Love i-bands
http://soundcloud.com/eniqma-studios

If METALLICA Kill em' ALL
Facebook kill I-bands.net... true story
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
firslash
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: electric guitar sting..help2 Reply with quote



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 609
Location: Secret

oncet wrote:
otai2..
nk mintak pendapat sikit..
string brand ape yg tahan lama dan lmbat karat
sy tgn jenis cepat brpeluh mgkin sbb 2 string yg slalu sy pakai karat..
string yg biase sy pkai ernie ball..pling lama tahan pon cume 2,3 mggu je
pas 2 trus timbol kekaratan..
harap otai2 disini bleh bg advice..
sory soklan cam bangang..sy masih baru lg..heheh


ko nervous ke main gitar??
bro, ko try pakai d'addario..
yg kotak dia tu warna biru..
aku guna tu da nak 3 bln tp jauh lambat karat ar dr ernie ball..
_________________
Fernandes Burny RLG 55s



"It is better to be a good player on crap gear than a crap player on good gear.."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ouraida
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 26 Oct 2009
Posts: 285
Location: LD sabah

Aku pun bkn otai cuma mau tolong sb aku pn ada problem yg sama, tangan berpeluh ni.. bkn nervous pn..natural.. Ernie Ball ok bah.. D'addario & Dean Markley pun ok.. even Alice pun ok bg aku.. yg pntg pndai jaga.. btul la mcm eniqma ckp 2, lps main lap la pkai kain yg ko khaskn utk lap string.. kita ni bknnya pro.. mcm Joe Satriani, string guitar dia kn tukar stiap hari.. walaupun bkn smua gtr but his main guitar.. buruk mana pun tali 2, mustahil akan berkarat dalam masa sehari kn.. btuah2.. Smile
_________________
"Doing vibrato or bending without making the face is like eating food without tasting it.." ~PG~
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
spiderfingers
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Posts: 119

ouraida wrote:
Aku pun bkn otai cuma mau tolong sb aku pn ada problem yg sama, tangan berpeluh ni.. bkn nervous pn..natural.. Ernie Ball ok bah.. D'addario & Dean Markley pun ok.. even Alice pun ok bg aku.. yg pntg pndai jaga.. btul la mcm eniqma ckp 2, lps main lap la pkai kain yg ko khaskn utk lap string.. kita ni bknnya pro.. mcm Joe Satriani, string guitar dia kn tukar stiap hari.. walaupun bkn smua gtr but his main guitar.. buruk mana pun tali 2, mustahil akan berkarat dalam masa sehari kn.. btuah2.. Smile


Kalo sudah pakai semua termasuk dunlop fast-fret... akhir berkarat juga..


Aku cadang guna ni.




Goncang, titis sikit kat tissue, masuk bawah tali, kepilkan dan gosok atas bawah cam melancap tali gitar.

Pas tu pakai tisu bersih kepil dari bawah, gosok sampai tali berkilat, Lepas tu pakai minyak bayi johnson (pink cap) dan bersihkan tali lagi.



Pakai brasso pada tali GBE saje. Tali lain jangan.


Aku gerentee kau tali boleh tahan 6 bulan minimum.

Kalau dia karat lagi, repeat process.


Semua gitar aku sudah lebih 1 tahun tak tukar tali dan tak karat langsung. Laughing


Tapi pastikan lepas main, lap bersih bersih dengan tisu (keringkan peluh) dan titis sikit minyak bayi johnson, kepil dari bawah semua tali.

Gerenti tali tak karat cepat.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
eniQma
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

King Korek

Joined: 28 Nov 2009
Posts: 4040
Location: enigma di Kuala Lumpur

spiderfingers wrote:
ouraida wrote:
Aku pun bkn otai cuma mau tolong sb aku pn ada problem yg sama, tangan berpeluh ni.. bkn nervous pn..natural.. Ernie Ball ok bah.. D'addario & Dean Markley pun ok.. even Alice pun ok bg aku.. yg pntg pndai jaga.. btul la mcm eniqma ckp 2, lps main lap la pkai kain yg ko khaskn utk lap string.. kita ni bknnya pro.. mcm Joe Satriani, string guitar dia kn tukar stiap hari.. walaupun bkn smua gtr but his main guitar.. buruk mana pun tali 2, mustahil akan berkarat dalam masa sehari kn.. btuah2.. Smile


Kalo sudah pakai semua termasuk dunlop fast-fret... akhir berkarat juga..


Aku cadang guna ni.




Goncang, titis sikit kat tissue, masuk bawah tali, kepilkan dan gosok atas bawah cam melancap tali gitar.

Pas tu pakai tisu bersih kepil dari bawah, gosok sampai tali berkilat, Lepas tu pakai minyak bayi johnson (pink cap) dan bersihkan tali lagi.



Pakai brasso pada tali GBE saje. Tali lain jangan.


Aku gerentee kau tali boleh tahan 6 bulan minimum.

Kalau dia karat lagi, repeat process.


Semua gitar aku sudah lebih 1 tahun tak tukar tali dan tak karat langsung. Laughing


Tapi pastikan lepas main, lap bersih bersih dengan tisu (keringkan peluh) dan titis sikit minyak bayi johnson, kepil dari bawah semua tali.

Gerenti tali tak karat cepat.


whoa..nice tips
boleh try nih...
_________________
I Love i-bands
http://soundcloud.com/eniqma-studios

If METALLICA Kill em' ALL
Facebook kill I-bands.net... true story
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
ETERNAL
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod Squad
Mod Squad

Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Posts: 3382
Location: Dreamland

baik aku pakai kat tangan jer trus... haha...

gerenti lepas ni.. para2 gitaris dan basist mesti bertangan dan ber jari lembut belaka.. hhahaa
_________________
KreativWerks MediaSolutions|Soundcloud | YouTube | Facebook
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
firslash
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 609
Location: Secret

klu mcm ni, jgn kata tali, jari dgn tgn aku pun blh jd berkilat dan lembut bak sutera.. ehhehehehehehe.. Laughing
_________________
Fernandes Burny RLG 55s



"It is better to be a good player on crap gear than a crap player on good gear.."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
spiderfingers
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Posts: 119

ETERNAL wrote:
baik aku pakai kat tangan jer trus... haha...

gerenti lepas ni.. para2 gitaris dan basist mesti bertangan dan ber jari lembut belaka.. hhahaa



Kalo ko nak jadi papajahat kat awek pun boleh pakai minyak bayi ni juga.



Laughing Laughing Laughing


Tapi serius sikit, ini teknik betol betol berhasil. Tone tak lari, intonation dan tuning semua tepat kat tuner reading to 1 cent accuracy.

Sustain pun tak kurang. Cuma tunggu tali putus baru gua tukar set baru.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ouraida
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 26 Oct 2009
Posts: 285
Location: LD sabah

Quote:
Tapi serius sikit, ini teknik betol betol berhasil. Tone tak lari, intonation dan tuning semua tepat kat tuner reading to 1 cent accuracy.

Sustain pun tak kurang. Cuma tunggu tali putus baru gua tukar set baru.


Sygla bro.. Ko sptutny kluarkan buku and buat copyright.. Laughing

Aku pun mau try lps ni.. TQ for the tips..
_________________
"Doing vibrato or bending without making the face is like eating food without tasting it.." ~PG~
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger
firslash
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 609
Location: Secret

mcm aku pulak, aku guna alat lain.. aku guna Air Freshener Spray jenama My Shee..
tp caranya sama mcm bro Spiderfingers ckp:
lancapkan kat tali gitar.. mmg berhasil sbb dia buang daki2 kt yg blh menjd punca kpd proses pengaratan..
_________________
Fernandes Burny RLG 55s



"It is better to be a good player on crap gear than a crap player on good gear.."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ultraman_cosmo
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mod Squad
Mod Squad

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 1665
Location: Mines resort city

paling lama gua pakai string pun dalam 3 bulan.
- Sebab kekenyalan string tu dah kureng.
- Serius, telinga gua dah mula reject the tone dan vibration.
- bila intonation dah mula lari akibat ada bahagian yg nipis yg bergesel dengan fret wire.
- itu pakai elixir tu.

Sebenarnya string guitar akan cepat berkarat kalo selalu gi jam.
- tempat jam ada aircond.
- So semua harware termasuk guitar akan jadi sejuk berbanding suhu di luar.
- tapi oksida tak berlaku masa dalam studio jam, pasal udara aircond walo pun sejuk, ia kering.
- OK. abis main cam biasa guitar anda yg sejuk tu terus masuk harcase dan softcase.
- And melepak sebentar kat kedai mamak kena teh dan ceta aper lagu nak main next session.

Condensasi bermula.
- hardware. string dan guitar sejuk berbanding suhu sekitaran.
- So titisan air akan mula terbentuk pada permukaan string and hardware part.
- Air tu datang dari Udara sekeliling la.
- Macam botol mineral kita ambk dari peti ais 7e.
- tak der air pun kat sekeliling dia, once dah keluar dari 7e, maka itu titisan akan mula terbentuk.
- hardware sejuk dari udara sekitar.
- Condensasi namanya. rasanya simpoi darjah 6 punya sains.

Once u tak lap titisan air ne, campor plak dengan garam dari air peluh tangan anda maka ia akan cepat la karat.
- So ada baiknya anda lap guitar apa bila titisan air ne mula terbentuk.

guitar yg duduk dalam studio beraircond, biasanya lambat karat, kecuali ia dibawak keluar dari bilik tu. Sebabnya walopun on off aircond, tapi udara yg ada dalam tu adalah kering.

- Aku memang biasa guna minyak baby johnson kat tangan every time play guitar.
- tapi kat string aku prefer verseline oil dan dilap bersih.
- dan biasanya aku remove tali before karat, jarang berlaku remove tali sebab putus.

Ernie ball ne memang cepat karat.
- tapi tone dia hebat dan digemari ramai.
- Di dario lambat skit.
- Dikuti dengan Brite wire gibson.
- brand lain gua tak pakai.
- And Stienless steel boleh tahan karat, tapi tajam kat jari.
- gua ahirnya pakai elixir pasal malas nak tukar tali.
_________________
Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore

And Now all jazz.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
T|melessness
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 06 Jan 2009
Posts: 1026
Location: Kuala Lumpur

String karat bleh dielak kalo lepas main selalu lap.. aku dah cuba mcm mcm strings.. mahal ade yg murah pun ade.. last sekali aku rumus brand DARCO dari Martin & Co paling ekonomi.. tahan lasak..tak mudah karat.. note: aku tak kata yg terbaik o.k!..wlaupun bkn terbaik tapi honestly string nih bagus..RM15-RM16 aje harga nye.. nasib Darco tak kuar kan string tuk 7 string so terpaksa la aku switch ke D'Addrio..

Pasal nak menten karat nih tak perlu beli brand yg branded mahal mahal tuh.. cukup sekadar ko beli minyak Mesin jahit ' Singer ' baru RM2 sebotol bleh tahan 5thn.. tak mengecewakan langsung aku guna sejak 1994..
_________________
Conklin GTG-7T
Conklin GTG-7F custom
EVH Wolfgang Special
Kramer Vanguard USA
Fender Heartfield Talon III
Fender Stratocaster

www.myspace.com/cynica
www.myspace.com/conklinguitars
www.conklinguitars.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
spiderfingers
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Posts: 119

T|melessness wrote:
String karat bleh dielak kalo lepas main selalu lap.. aku dah cuba mcm mcm strings.. mahal ade yg murah pun ade.. last sekali aku rumus brand DARCO dari Martin & Co paling ekonomi.. tahan lasak..tak mudah karat.. note: aku tak kata yg terbaik o.k!..wlaupun bkn terbaik tapi honestly string nih bagus..RM15-RM16 aje harga nye.. nasib Darco tak kuar kan string tuk 7 string so terpaksa la aku switch ke D'Addrio..

Pasal nak menten karat nih tak perlu beli brand yg branded mahal mahal tuh.. cukup sekadar ko beli minyak Mesin jahit ' Singer ' baru RM2 sebotol bleh tahan 5thn.. tak mengecewakan langsung aku guna sejak 1994..



Minyak Mesin jahit tak sesuai untuk buat projek papajahat dengan awek lah.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
oncet
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Joined: 25 May 2009
Posts: 40
Location: pontian, johor

wahhh..
mcm2 ilmu dpt..xrugi tnye kt sini..hehehe
tiap2 kalu pas main ak lap gak tali 2 tp ntah laa..asyik karat je..
pas tkar string nt nk try la applykn tips2 kt sini...
thanks saudara2 ku sekalian...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic  Reply to topic Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next Page 1 of 3

Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum





DAJ Glass template by Dustin Baccetti
EQ graphic based off of a design from www.freeclipart.nu
modified by i-bands.net
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group