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eniQma
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oncet wrote:
wahhh..
mcm2 ilmu dpt..xrugi tnye kt sini..hehehe
tiap2 kalu pas main ak lap gak tali 2 tp ntah laa..asyik karat je..
pas tkar string nt nk try la applykn tips2 kt sini...
thanks saudara2 ku sekalian...


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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xde hal bro..
minta info cara baik, confirm ktorg akn tlg klu ktorg tau..
u are welcome.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Minyak Mesin jahit tak sesuai untuk buat projek papajahat dengan awek lah.


ahhahahaha..

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wahhh..
mcm2 ilmu dpt..xrugi tnye kt sini..hehehe
tiap2 kalu pas main ak lap gak tali 2 tp ntah laa..asyik karat je..
pas tkar string nt nk try la applykn tips2 kt sini...
thanks saudara2 ku sekalian...


Letak minyak mesin tadi 2-3 titik kat kain tuh pastu lap la string nye setiap kali lepas main.. Insyallah o.k punya.. kalo lap tak pakai minyak tak boleh bang..

bila dah kerap pakai lama2 semua kain ko tadi dah jadi sebati dgn minyak.. masa nih ko tak perlu titik minyak kerap lagi dah kat kain tu.. pakai minyak sedia ade kat kain sebati tuh pun dah o.k..minyak dia sentiasa ade je..

pilihan kain pun mau o.k jugak.. kain yg mcm 100% cotton mcm Tshirt yg kita pakai hari hari tuh tak sesuai..dia serap minyak..kain jenis nih buat polish body guitar boleh la.. kain yg sesuai kain licin.. sedikit ade campuran cotton & polyster.. contoh mcm kain sarung bantal, sapu tangan, kain baju kemeja ala ala office punya..
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wah bro...detail giler penerangan..huhuhu
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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spiderfingers... im serious man...

as for me... most of oxidization coming from my right palm and left fingers..
wouldn't be better if we apply some on our hands before playing?
at least we only need to wipe the baby oil in the strings rather that sweat..
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ETERNAL wrote:
spiderfingers... im serious man...

as for me... most of oxidization coming from my right palm and left fingers..
wouldn't be better if we apply some on our hands before playing?
at least we only need to wipe the baby oil in the strings rather that sweat..

- kita berpeluh kat badan juga, ur peluh akan mengalir ikut lengan tu sampai ker palm.
- Salah satu keadah guna Wrist Band, supaya peluh dari badan tak turun sampai ke palm.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Walaupun anda boleh pakai minyak bayi mineral tu kat tangan, saya masih rekomen anda lepas main

1. Guna tisu bersih, kepil dari bawah tali GBE, kasi gosok atas bawah. Ini adalah untuk bersihkan peluh dan minyak jari.

Habuk besi (dari string bending) dan kotoran akan kelihatan kat tisu.


2. Guna tisu bersih kedua atau bahagian tissue 1 yang bersih, titis sikit minyak bayi mineral tu dan kepil bawah semua tai EADGBE (mula dengan GBE).



Step nombor dua amat penting sebab minyak tu akan menjadi lapisan nipis yang menghalang udara/oxygen dari string itu. Ini berhasil selama 2 tiga hari aje. Kalo lu tak main 1 minggu, dia berkarat akhirnya juga.

So, if you don't play the string, it is advisable to baby oil the string every 2 days.

Saya tak rekomen lari terus ke step 2 sebab tak gerenti minyak jari dan peluh dibersihkan sebab sudah tercampur dengan minyak bayi mineral.

Step 1 amat penting. Mesti hapuskan minyak dan peluh badan dari jari sebelum pergi step 2 untuk lapisan minyak halang udara.
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Step nombor dua amat penting sebab minyak tu akan menjadi lapisan nipis yang menghalang udara/oxygen dari string itu. Ini berhasil selama 2 tiga hari aje. Kalo lu tak main 1 minggu, dia berkarat akhirnya juga.


yup betul aku pernah pakai jugak..sbb tahan 2-3 hari aje la aku tak pakai minyak nih lagi.. pakai minyak Singer bleh tahan sampai 2-3 minggu.. hehehe.. lagi satu perkara yg menarik bagi aku la pasal minyak singer nih dia tak meningalkan sebarang bau kat string atau pun guitar...

tapi nak ikut kan byk minyak boleh guna.. yg karat nye sebab tak usik usik guitar tuh terbiar sebulan dua..
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kalau gitar dah sampai 5-6 bijik, mmg patut la ade gitar yg terbiar berbulan-bulan...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Kat bawah ni aku ekstrak daripada thread lain:

Dari thread ini:
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Erylasia:
Tahukah anda bagaimana cara untuk mengembalikan bunyi wound pada tali gitar anda...?
haha........anda boleh menggunakan alkohol dengan merendamnya dalam alkohol ataupun dengan cara merebus tali gitar anda dalam air ....ini kerana tali yang kehilangan bunyi wound tadi adalah disebabkan daki tangan anda yang melekat pada tali gitar anda...cara ini hanya sesuai pada tali yang mempunyai Nickel Wound sahaja iaitu tiga tali atas(E,A,D)



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Ridzi:
Hmnnn the best way is to but this product called "GHS Fast Fret" ...Harganya kat Malaysia RM22.00.

I swear by this stuff, it makes the strings last longer, and the sound brighter. It also enables you be faster on your fretting hand....The only thing is you have to apply it before and after you play you guitar

/ridzi


Quote:
Ridzi:
Lepas tu...kalau nak jaga fretboard pulak...ko kena pakai Lemon Oil...barula fret board ko akan rasa licin umpama pipi bontot Siti Nurhaliza....

Informasi extra tadi itu ditaja oleh Dunhill...Gaya...Mutu...Keunggulan....

heh

/ridzi


Dan thread yang ini pula ada perbincangan yang agak panjang pasal tali gitar dan cara penjagaannya
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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good job mr orden!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Saya pun ada GHS fast fret, but saya mesti kasi amaran pasal fast fret.



1. You mesti tahu camne nak guna.


2. Kalo you tak tahu, nanti tali lu pun tercemar dan tak tahan.





Banyak orang terus gosok tali dengan fast fret sebelum dan selepas main.


Ni tak baik ni.


Fast fret applicator sangat susah diguna kecuali kau gosok kat fretboard juga sama tali.




Sekarang pikir, 6 bulan kemudian, apa jadi pada muka applicator fast fret?


Hitam kotor dan tentu banyak minyak dan peluh manusia juga.


Kotoran tu akan bertambah dan kalo you ada banyak gitar atau gitar baru, you can kiss your new guitar fretboard bye bye because it gets dirty very fast from contamination through fast fret.



Tu pasal saya stop using fast fret. it needs to touch the fretboard and furthermore it is not able to reach underneath the strings.



You kena beli itu pisau box cutter, dan potong lapisan atas fast-fret to get fresh new layer.


Fast fret seems useful but it can pollute and dirty other guitar/frets (new ones especially)


It will also collect dirt/oil/sweat.


I wouldn't use it on a new fresh string. With the johnson baby oil + toilet paper method, my strings are always guaranteed clean and not polluted by previous applicator/material.

Fast fret = rm 24

baby oil = rm 2.


Both contains mineral oil.




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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kalo guna vaseline ok x?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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neskopi wrote:
kalo guna vaseline ok x?



Your fretboard won't be happy with you.



Vaseline good for lubbing nut and bridge.


And coating the GBE strings when you tak main berbulan bulan tapi bila nak main, kena clean it up with tissue.

Jangan kena EAD wound strings, nanti hancur sebab habuk semua melekat kat wound groove/opening and kill your tone.


Vaseline sangat sesuai untuk block out udara tapi janganlah biarkan bila nak main.

Mineral oil kena fretboard tak ape.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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spiderfingers wrote:
neskopi wrote:
kalo guna vaseline ok x?



Your fretboard won't be happy with you.



Vaseline good for lubbing nut and bridge.


And coating the GBE strings when you tak main berbulan bulan tapi bila nak main, kena clean it up with tissue.

Jangan kena EAD wound strings, nanti hancur sebab habuk semua melekat kat wound groove/opening and kill your tone.


Vaseline sangat sesuai untuk block out udara tapi janganlah biarkan bila nak main.

Mineral oil kena fretboard tak ape.


ok. dat mean vaseline x seswai utk string. tapi
utk nut lubrication cun kan? orait, thanks.
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