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salammmm
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: double or dual solo... Reply with quote



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assalamualaikum...ade x yg tau mcm mana nk harmonize-kan solo...share2 la ilmu tu ye...thanks.. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Yg aku tau la...

1st guitar Root ( E ) Minor
2nd Guitar 3rd ( G ) Major

aku tau cam tuh je...kalau solo 1st gitar die bunyik

E - F# - G

2nd Gitar die kene bunyi

G - A - B

Yg mcm tuh aku tau la...Ramai gak yg buat...Maiden pun ade, Malmsteen pun ade gak...
Nak detail kite tggu mereka yg tau.. aku pun nak tau gak yg lain2... eheheh
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: double or dual solo... Reply with quote



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salammmm wrote:
assalamualaikum...ade x yg tau mcm mana nk harmonize-kan solo...share2 la ilmu tu ye...thanks.. Cool


ada contoh dari youtube tak ? bule ler link kat sini ,., aku pon tak paham ,,,
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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jibraun wrote:
Yg aku tau la...

1st guitar Root ( E ) Minor
2nd Guitar 3rd ( G ) Major

aku tau cam tuh je...kalau solo 1st gitar die bunyik

E - F# - G

2nd Gitar die kene bunyi

G - A - B

Yg mcm tuh aku tau la...Ramai gak yg buat...Maiden pun ade, Malmsteen pun ade gak...
Nak detail kite tggu mereka yg tau.. aku pun nak tau gak yg lain2... eheheh



yg ni pun aku tu jgak...cuma aku nk yg lagi detail...hehe..ade gak yg wat camni...kalau kod die E...die amek B...kalau F amek C..and so on lah...tp,cmni kurang sedap kot...bese org wat cam yg ko ckp tu
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Hahaha.. aku tau yg tuh je... yg lain aku masih x paham... tggu je la otai2 i banner x busy.. drg mesti kongsi punye.. x pun aku rase mesti ade dulu drg dah discuss bende nih... ko search ar...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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erm..maybe la kot...nt aku suruh eniqma korek....hehehehe Twisted Evil
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salammmm wrote:
erm..maybe la kot...nt aku suruh eniqma korek....hehehehe Twisted Evil


hmm ye la aku jugaakk

ni aku korek kat dlam ni blum jumpa...
ko layan nih dulu k

ahahaha

ada 3 part...

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/music_theory/how_about_harmonizing.html

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/music_theory/how_about_harmonizing.html

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/music_theory/how_about_harmonizing_part_3.html
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hahaha... ko mmg pakar korek mengorek treat hahaha...
kot2 korek bende lain skali..... Twisted Evil



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ahaha kuar ko jib!!! aku tau ko nyorok...wakakaka
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jibraun wrote:
Yg aku tau la...

1st guitar Root ( E ) Minor
2nd Guitar 3rd ( G ) Major

aku tau cam tuh je...kalau solo 1st gitar die bunyik

E - F# - G

2nd Gitar die kene bunyi

G - A - B

Yg mcm tuh aku tau la...Ramai gak yg buat...Maiden pun ade, Malmsteen pun ade gak...
Nak detail kite tggu mereka yg tau.. aku pun nak tau gak yg lain2... eheheh


yg ni kira Minor punya marmony...
ade yg major harmony...
contoh... aaaa google la.
aku fail kalau major harmony
hahahaha

yg aku tau, Boss ME-70 ade function harmonizer....
tapi utk major scale je...
tu yg aku nyampah tu...
kalau zoom dulu boleh pilih nak major / minor...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Main higher or lower octave pun harmonize jg..

jibraun wrote:
kot2 korek bende lain skali..... Twisted Evil



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~hands up~ +1 AGREE!!! Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Me-70 bleh ubah harmonizer dari Major ke minor gak.. tapi bukan ubah kat Me-70 tuh.. kene ubah ikut note minor yg ko nak....mcm Me-50 gak...
Contoh die....Kalau Ko nak Harmonize kan A minor.. ko kene set harmonizer kat note C dan naikkan sampei 3 (Major 3rd)
Aku rase mcm nih la kot...mcm penah buat dulu...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As kita tahu,

Scaling Cmajor contohnya.

C(root), D(2nd),E(3rd) F(4th), G(5th), A(6th) dan B(7th)
- 2nd,3rd --- 7th = dregree utk interval.
- Paling berkesan nak buat harmonic adalah kita ambik the Odd degree.

Contoh 3rd degree harmonic utk Cmajor.
C = 3rd harmonic adalah E
D = 3rd harmonic adalah F
E = 3rd harmonic adalah G
F = 3rd harmonic adalah A
G = 3rd harmonic adalah B
A = 3rd harmonic adalah C
B = 3rd harmonic adalah D

So kao kita ada solo
Phrase C-D-E-D-C
- So 2nd guitar solo boleh main E-F-G-F-E (3rd degree harmonic dalam Cmajor scaling)


Contoh 5th degree harmonic utk Cmajor.
C = 5th harmonic adalah G
D = 5th harmonic adalah A
E = 5th harmonic adalah B
F = 5th harmonic adalah C
G = 5th harmonic adalah D
A = 5th harmonic adalah E
B = 5th harmonic adalah F

So kao kita ada solo
Phrase C-D-E-D-C
- So 2nd guitar solo boleh main G-A-B-A-G (3rd degree harmonic dalam Cmajor scaling)


7th harmonic pun boleh dibuat pekara yg sama.
- of cos ovtave juga salah satu keadah harmonic root to root.
- juga anda boleh gabungkan 3rd harmonic dan 5th harmonic dan 7th harmonic juga ovtave.
- Cuma 4th, jarang digunakan utk harmonice the scale sebab ia melibatkan avoid note.
- 6th adalah minor relative, of cos tarak masalah.
- Walo cam mana pun ia tak bermaksud tak boleh buat harmony solo guna 2nd, 4th or 6th.
- this tension (2nd, 4th or 6th) note, biasanya menyebabkan music jadi lebih creative kalo tau nak guna dengan betul.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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tima kasih eniqma...cosmo skali...pnerangan yg detail...amek masa nak pham ni...tq2
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yg aku tau, Boss ME-70 ade function harmonizer....
tapi utk major scale je...
tu yg aku nyampah tu...
kalau zoom dulu boleh pilih nak major / minor...


- kata la ko nak Em harmony.
- sebanrnya ia sama dengan Gmaj.
- set Boss ME-70 to Gmaj harmony.
- So boleh main Em scaling biasa.
- Sebenarnya, ko oleh main A dorian, B phrigian juga.
- sebab all A dorian, B phrigian dan Eminor scale berasal dari scale Gmajor ionion juga.


Aper yg anda semua kurang faham sebenarnya adalah
- music interval.
- music interval ne pekara macam Unison, minor 3rd, major 3rd, tritone, perfect 5 hingga lah ker octave.
- go goole music interval... hhehehhehe.
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