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jeeli

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject:

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tq sharing bro ...

aku belajo2 kat sini ... guitar method scales pro ..

http://uploading.com/files/1NBEQMTU/Guitar_Scales_Method_Professional_1.1.4.2.rar.html

bro tgk2 ler .. ok tak software nih ... aku cri guitar pro 5 tak dpt ... (yg free ler)

aku tak paham , alpha , gamma ... etc tu ..

err ada scales rock , metal , jazz , blues .. tuh semua pon jugak ker ? ..
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eniQma

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject:

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jeeli wrote:

hmm macam lbih kuang software "Band in a Box"
ok la...tp aku pon pening jugak pakai software mcm ni..interface...hmmm hampeh..bosan..hilang mood nak blaja..huhuhu try download kat link yg aku kasi kat PM ko k
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:57 am Post subject:

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Aku bukan la cikgu music nak ngajar korang togey hahhahaha.

Pada gua guitar ne adalah alat music.
- Sure u kena ada teori music yg baik.
- masuk kelas la, jangan kedekut dan malu malu... kakkaka.

Macam kita belajar baca, mak suruh hafal A-Z, ya tak boleh elak.
- bapa suruh hafal sifir, adusss.

tapi bila sampai next level takan nak hafal 134 X 1.234 macam gua ingat.
- tapi from keadah yg betul bukan susah sangat pun.
- antara lambat dengan cepat jer mungkin bezanya.

Utk main solo ne, ramai yg confuse, dia kena tau banyak scale ker utk menyolo.
- sebenarnya dia perlu tau chord, progression.
- pasal ini yg boleh menentukan scale nya nanti.
- Chord- scale relation la paling penting.
- karang scale dah beratus tahu, tapi still tak tau amacam nak apply the scale, sebulan pastu, confirm lupo.

Alway back to the root.
- mula balik dari mana asal chord, asal scale dan progressionnya.
- Tak tau nak nerang dari mana sebab gua tak layak menerang benda cam ne.

Aku pernah post pasal scale modal kat iband, tapi tak abis nak tulis.
- and asal usul chord kat fret guitar di metalterus forum.

CUMA GUA TENSION PASAL KENAPA BANYAK SANGAT TITLE
- saya budak baru belajar guitar laaa
- saya mau belajar guitar
- nak tanya...
- nak jawab pun tak tau start dari mana
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:25 am Post subject:

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CUMA GUA TENSION PASAL KENAPA BANYAK SANGAT TITLE
- saya budak baru belajar guitar laaa
- saya mau belajar guitar
- nak tanya...
- nak jawab pun tak tau start dari mana[/quote]

hehe....btol gak tue ultraman...semua br belajar...main music mana la bleh stop...tp aku setuju dgn pendapat ko..nak solo,kalo tau progession chords mmg la senang nak main solo by scale....tp kekadang teori music nie menjadikan kita robot....so better ada kedua2 nya...heart and theori...tue yg aku rasa la....bila solo,ibarat kita nak luahkan sesuatu...x dpt pakai mulut,pakai gita pun jadi la....haha...

ultraman_cosmo

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:52 am Post subject:

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Tu la kena ada kerseimbangan.
- Smua nya pentng, tapi tak bermaksud kita kena abaikan salah satu or penting hanya satu.
- Tapi kalo gua berada pada tahap kami budak baru belajar, perlu ka gua kena feel or heart... kakakakakkaak.
- baik tumpukan benda lain cam teori,tempoh, fingering, teknik dan benda benda yg kita kena asah dari mula.
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:12 am Post subject:

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wiwit wrote:

hehe....btol gak tue ultraman...semua br belajar...main music mana la bleh stop...tp aku setuju dgn pendapat ko..nak solo,kalo tau progession chords mmg la senang nak main solo by scale....tp kekadang teori music nie menjadikan kita robot....so better ada kedua2 nya...heart and theori...tue yg aku rasa la....bila solo,ibarat kita nak luahkan sesuatu...x dpt pakai mulut,pakai gita pun jadi la....haha...

huhu memang aku stuju nih....

ultraman_cosmo wrote:

-setuju nih...huhuhu Embarassed

-huhu betol jugak kata bro..kalau scale lom tahu..mcm ne nak by heart!!
hahahaha
-a'ah...betul kata bro ultraman kita nih...kalau betul2 taktahu scale ape pon..blaja scale..pastu alternate picking...etc2...(yg macam diatas)...
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:17 am Post subject:

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kata orang, kena master ur play dulu, baru bleh add kita punya feeling, heart, hati, hempedu dan penkreas.
- Just bayangkan, muko dah feel giler tapi main sangkut dan berkejaran dengan tempoh, tak ker syok sendiri plak kata orang... hahhaha.
- ini nasihat utk gua sendiri sebenarnya... kakakkaak
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:26 am Post subject:

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ultraman_cosmo wrote:

haha tringat aku...zaman solo ke laut dulu ahahahaha
yup tq utk nasihat ni bro...byk lagi aku kena perbaiki...tq very much
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject:

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jeeli wrote:

by heart , kita wat agak2 yg mana dekat dgn scales dia jer ker bro?... maksud nya tak semestinya sama mcm guitrist tuh main ... gitu ? ... yg penting key tuh betul .. betulkan kalu aku salah ...

- lg 1 scales dorian sama mcm major scales ker? contoh chord A kita pulun kat kotak A ikut scales dorian pon bule?

- aku tak guru yg bimbing .. , seminggu nak pegang gitar pon payah ... kasik base2 teknik solo pon tak per bro ... nti aku try la explore sendiri ..

bro, ni aku punya vid..
lagu Blurry ni Puddle of Mudd yg main tp aku seriously ni first time dgr n jamming terus.. tp, mcm Mr. Eniqma bgtau, buat scale n solo by heart..
hahaha.. seriously mmg lain dr lagu original Blurry tu.. tp bila ko feel lagu tu, ko dpt bantai solo yg sepatutnya dgn key yg ko main.. ni link vid aku..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPrLig5-bNU

thank you.. Laughing

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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject:

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a'ah..huhuhu
nice jamming en.Firslash...
itu yg aku cuba sampai kan....
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject:

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ultraman_cosmo wrote:

- Just bayangkan, muko dah feel giler tapi main sangkut dan berkejaran dengan tempoh, tak ker syok sendiri plak kata orang... hahhaha.
- ini nasihat utk gua sendiri sebenarnya... kakakkaak

KIK kIk kik kik............
Musti ramai yg teraser nih... huhuhu
Nsb baek aku x pandai....
kalo aku pandai menyolo, musti aku pn teraso...
Im sorry...
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firslash

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

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boyroy wrote:

ultraman_cosmo wrote:

- Just bayangkan, muko dah feel giler tapi main sangkut dan berkejaran dengan tempoh, tak ker syok sendiri plak kata orang... hahhaha.
- ini nasihat utk gua sendiri sebenarnya... kakakkaak

KIK kIk kik kik............
Musti ramai yg teraser nih... huhuhu
Nsb baek aku x pandai....
kalo aku pandai menyolo, musti aku pn teraso...
Im sorry...

hahahaha... tp bgs tu Mr. Ultraman..
tu blh dijdkan 1 nasihat supaya para gitaris lbh peka dgn corak solo mrk.. (tmsk aku skali sbnrnya..)
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jeeli

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject:

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firslash wrote:

jeeli wrote:

aku blom dpt feel lg ... Razz

.. buat masa skng aku cuba pulun dore mi .. cuba hafal chord tiap2 fret ... tempo pon aku kena blajo jugak .. selalu tak ikut tempo .. main syok sendiri jer ...
tq bro sharing ...

ada video best2 share ler kat sini ,... Razz

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firslash

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:51 am Post subject:

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aku punya vid xde la best sgt..
tp klu ko nak tgk aku punya solo or time aku jamming ke, belasah solo ke, ko bukak la Youtube..
taip firslash88 kat search dlm Youtube tu...
then ko usha la vid aku..
mana la tau blh jd bahan ilmiah ko ke..
tp aku mmg xde la hebat mcm bro2 otai yg lain..
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:07 am Post subject:

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Aku ada sedikit tip utk korang yg mula nak menyolo.
- selain u main satu scale over one progression.

Pentetonic.
- Dari pada major scale, korang akan dapat major pentetonic.
- Dari minor scale, korang akan dapat minor pentetonic.
- Ini scale utk main save, jarang berlaku sumbang.
- Cuma yg penting korang kena kuasai 5 pattern CAGED utk this pentetonic.

Jika korang belajar mode.
- korang akan dapati mode utk minor chord seperti dorian, phrigian dan aeolian memiliki ahli pentetonic yg sama.
- A_dorian, A_phrigian dan A_aeolian = pentetonic minor nya sama.
- So kalo u main pentetonic minor over mana mana minor chord tak kisah la pada mode yg mana maka ia logic takan sumbang.
- Gitu juga kalo korang main major Chord.
- Ionian, locrian dan mixcolidian akan sound more to major chord.
- So u boleh perform mana mana major pentetonic.
- A_Ionian, A_locrian dan A_mixcolidian = pentetonic major nya sama.

Dalam rock style music yg biasa guna triad chord.
- vi - V - IV - III
- Em - Dmaj - Cmaj - Bmaj

Aper yg u boleh buat selain main Em\Gmaj scale sampai keseluruhannya.
- play Em pentetonic over Em chord
- play Dmaj pentetonic over Dmaj chord
- play Cmaj pentetonic over Cmaj chord
- play Bmaj pentetonic over Bmaj chord
- dia punya mood dan feel akan berubah macam feel mode.
- and u kena sentiasa aware dengan chord seterusnya.
- bukan goreng asalkan masuk.

Jika anda mahir dengan pentetonic anda.
- u akan tau mana nak bend full or half bend.
- mana nak add cromatic.
- mana nak add alternate note.
- mana nak add passing note or chord.

Guna this method, gua boleh mainkan mana mana pentetonic tanpa berfikir gua dalam key mana.
- Ini lah somthing kita sebut chord scale, tak perlu tau aper key nya.
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