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Jiro
PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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kalau tak silap aku lah... beli ori Gibson akan dapat cert...dan waranty..

tapi aku pernah sendiri pegang gibson ori, fake, dan copy, mmg ternyata jauh nye sgt berbeza...kau pegang saja kau tahu yg itu ori, bukan permainan.

macam certain fake atau copy...tgk dgn mata dah tau itu permainan, biar la dia kata 99% near to ori...tak pernah satu pun aku tgk yg 99% near to ori.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jiro - epiphone punya feel ngan Gibson punya sama tak? sorry aku off topic sikit...

btul juga ape jiro ckp tu...Kalo beli gibson ori mesti feel dia lain...kalo yg tak ori mesti lain punya...huhuhu so kalo nak tau..kena gi Wolf fat try ori nye gibson pastu banding kan wahaha
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tak penah aku pegang gibson...
greco ngan tokai penah la kot..
tak tahu la ada feel gibson ker tak... ehhe
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Jiro wrote:
kalau tak silap aku lah... beli ori Gibson akan dapat cert...dan waranty..

tapi aku pernah sendiri pegang gibson ori, fake, dan copy, mmg ternyata jauh nye sgt berbeza...kau pegang saja kau tahu yg itu ori, bukan permainan.

macam certain fake atau copy...tgk dgn mata dah tau itu permainan, biar la dia kata 99% near to ori...tak pernah satu pun aku tgk yg 99% near to ori.

IMHO


i bet you right..
mmg beza yg amat ketara.Pegang je bole tau.Amat ketara pd finishing,angle&weight.Rosewood pd fretboard nampak grain kayu dia.Tp fake takde.Mcm tu gak hardcase gibson.Yg fake ,reptile skin dia tak nampak.

THIS IS FAKE

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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yg ni ori x....truss rod cover dia ada 2 screw...http://www.mudah.my/GIBSON+les+paul+guitar+USED-6951697.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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cmna nk latk gmbar dlm post ha??
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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salammmm wrote:
cmna nk latk gmbar dlm post ha??

cara2 dia aku dah PM kt ko
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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semakin hari fake semakin maju..Ada jugak yg 2 screw mcm dalam gmbar kat bawah nie.Bezanya pd potongan yg cantik utk genuine dan yg buruk pd truss rod fake tu.Truss rod cover tu tak rapat dgn nut.Nut pulak mestila berada dalam slotnye.


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babloo wrote:
semakin hari fake semakin maju..Ada jugak yg 2 screw mcm dalam gmbar kat bawah nie.Bezanya pd potongan yg cantik utk genuine dan yg buruk pd truss rod fake tu.Truss rod cover tu tak rapat dgn nut.Nut pulak mestila berada dalam slotnye.



wahh mcm detektif conan the babarian la ko nih Razz

nice info...biasa la...diorg ounya perinsip..alang2 buat gibson baik buat jd sebijik mcm gibson ahaha
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Tp masalahnye ada org menganiaya pembeli.Contoh kat dalam m***h.com.my tu.Ada yg letak fake smp 5-6k.Kesian wooo kalo ada yg tertipu.Bagus ada i-band nie dpt kongsi2 maklumat.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pada gua,
- Genuine gibson ne bukan hanya pada bentuk dia.
- So kalo nak bezakan study la juga pekara lain seperty hardware, fret, fingerboard, inlay, electronik part dan sebagainya.
- even trusrod cover pun kita tau mana ori dan mana fake.
- sama macam quality fret wire pun kita boleh nampak.
- lom ceta finishing dia lagi.
- sama macam fender dan lain lain brand terkenal, setiap keluaran pun ada spec tersendiri, neck profile, pickup, binding, inlay dan sebagainya.
- even feel or bunyi 3 way switch pun boleh dibezakan keduanya.
- memamg pun, sekarang nyer fake dah semakin menghampiri yg real.
- Setiap kali tersiar dalam internet, maka china fake akan semakin improve.
- benda seperti amacam nak bezakan veneer, or real flame top or printed flame takan berubah.
- fake takan sangup nak pakai real flame top stakat rega tu jer.

Tapi,
- pada gua, tak perlu nak bandingkan Genuine gibson and fake.
- 2 pekara yg berbeza,
- tone 90% sama, hahahhaah, itu ayat sellman jer.
- kebanyakan nya dalam rega 1.5k to 2k kebanyakan fake.
- try la riki bera harga, studio, standard, traditional, classic dan even custom.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Hoho ok,dh tukar tajuk dh..mungkin sya salah pemahaman dgn word replica tu sendiri,sbb yg sya faham Replica tu mcm Replica kereta lumba F1 yg selalu dipamerkan..EXACTLY THE SAME Shocked cume enjin je xda..so terbawak2 sampai kesini..haha sori2.. Laughing

tp rasanya dengan adanya pendedahan maklumat ni,dh boleh carik byk point dan tempat2 kritikal utk mengecam/mengenal pasti yg bahawasanya gitar itu ori atau xori..

cara paling selamat ialah beli dgn well known seller..pastikan seller mempunyai cukup maklumat,telus,jujur dgn spec gitar tersebut..

bro babloo: hehe sya xda plan nak beli gibson LP pon (belum sampai seru kewangan dia lagi Laughing ) just curios nak tau membezakan je..sbb sya pon xpenah pegang LP ori..so mg buta kayu betul..hehe

ya setuju dgn soalan bro eniqma,mcm mana plak dgn epiphone?

thanks semua kerana kongsi info pasal ni.. respek:P
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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hahah...sudah ada tajuk baru..

sg pelong>takpe kt smua dpt +knowledge sambil menantikan wkt berbuka Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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macam aku cakap...feel dia lain... sekali tgk pun dah tahu

kalau ori tuh kan...senang cakap.. macam kau tgk perabot mahal je

tapi aklau fake tuh...alahai kemas dia macam budak g sekolah...macam permainan je aku tgk guitar tuh..

plastik atau material yg dia guna utk cover trust rod pun lain

macam nih la...kalau kau tgk handphone china..atau apa apa barang tiruan china kan... kau cam perasan tak dia punya kilat semua lain macam jeeee hahahahhah

tapi macam cosmo ckp tone 90% hahah itu mmg ayat salesman..serious aku cakap, aku tak pernah jumpa yg fake atau replica even near to 60%

kecuali copy, custom made...even epiphone pun susah kau nak cari near to gibsons ...SEBAB EPIPHONE DIA ADA CHARACTER DIA TERSENDIRI

semua nih IMHO selepas berpengalaman bermain gibson dan epiphone, tetap pilih epiphone Very Happy

so macam aku cakap..feel tuh dah tau dah~
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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YESS FEEEL..sbb tu aku pakai Gibson les paul..huhu..even heavy
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