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IZZI
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ya setanick.. ko beli pickup tu segara.. Rm80 sebijik tu mmg takkan dpt lagi harga mcm tu..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nasib baik aku tak der guitar single coil... kalo tak aku dah rembat dulu... hahhahaha.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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IZZI wrote:
ya setanick.. ko beli pickup tu segara.. Rm80 sebijik tu mmg takkan dpt lagi harga mcm tu..


hehe dlm proses la bro.tp bayaq pakai paypals.paypals tuh amende arr.?
aku internet bengong sket..!! hehehe buta IT la katakan.. Idea
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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hehehe.aku dah beli pickup tersebut.thanks to en.matt.

BTW aku dah installed bunyi mmg best tp bila aku tekan suis kat 4th post bunyi dia nyaring sket la(mcm bunyik kat 1st post lak tp sound nipis).

soalan2 nye bebunyik :
a) adakah aku salah wiring?
b)takpon ada wire putus
c)suis rosak?? Question (pateri terlebih panas kot?!)

mintak pendapat korang sket (1st time aku bukak gitar sendiri....)
bantulah dakuuuu......hehehe
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IZZI
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ko beli pickup mana?

ko pasang pickup tu untuk bridge(belakang) ke neck(depan)?
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setanicx
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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IZZI wrote:
ko beli pickup mana?

ko pasang pickup tu untuk bridge(belakang) ke neck(depan)?


aku beli yg randy_rhoads sajest aritu.Matt davious jual.

http://www.i-bands.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4422

pikup neck yg nih american strat punya.aku psng kat neck.aku takut tersalah wiring je.ade efek ka?
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IZZI
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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oo dia ada 2 wayar je kan..? satu hitam dan satu putih.
yang hitam tu ground, so ko kena solder sekali dgn wayar2 ground yg lain (usually on the top of the one of the pots).

wayar putih tu, ko assign kat selector . In this case, ko assign kat pin yg represent neck pickup. Kalau ko pasang terbalik, ia still bunyi lebih kurang sama tapi dia dah jadi reverse polarity. Sound tak ada beza sangat cuma ia berbeza dgn ketara bila ko guna pickup combination iaitu position 2(neck+mid) atau position 4(bridge+mid).

Aku pelik, kenapa ko cakap ada effect kat 4th postion? sedangkan ko cuma ubah neck pickup je. Sepatutnya kalau ada salah pun, ia sepatutnya kacau pada 1st dan 2nd postition..

Tapi andaikata ko tersalah cakap position order tu(ko maksudkan ialah 2nd position instead of 4th position), jadi kenyaringan tu mungkin disebabkan oleh pickup yg baru tu punya polarity tak match dgn pickup ko yg lain.

Jadi, cuba ko terbalikkan wiring ko utk pickup baru tu,

yg ground(hitam) ko jadikan power, yg power(putih) ko jadikan ground. Ini akan ubah bunyi 2nd position ko.

kalau rajin cuba la..atau mungkin org lain ada cara lain yg better..
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: pickup single coil - how to play safe Reply with quote

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fretted bros,

problem ni memang rimas, banyak yg beli dan tolak single coil because of this problem. selalunye kalau on standard guitar polarity dia dah fixed, tapi bila dah masuk lain p/up poof! barai!...same goes to humbuckers (bila kita rojak kan brand dan model..ha ha ha ha!)!

kita start dgn -

1) bila nak check p/up guna la multitester, test samada hidupka, mampoih ka dan power dia..
2)separuh brand ada dia punya color code, vintage ada cloth wire je, dia akan colourkan kat belakang bobbin belakang magnet..ori vintage specs lansung tak ada...

susunan p/up strat...
selalu nya yg hot kat belakang, tengah dgn depan serupa atau lebih kurang..kalau ada inductor plate, confirm la yg belakang..

masalah polarity
sebelum pasang, check magnet secara mudah..ambil 2 p/up tu stack antara 2 p/ups tu...kalau menolak tanda dia reverse polarity, kalau menarik, dia sama polarity..
lepastu check dgn p/up yg pertama tadi dgn p/up ketiga, same method...

susunan dia

a)
p/up depan north
p/up tengah south
p/up belakang north

b)
p/up depan south
p/up tengah north
p/up belakang south

bila in between, ko dapat out of phase dan cancel the 60 cycle hum la..

ini basic untuk standard strat, bukan secara detail, configuration ada banyak. aku terangkan setakat ini sahaja tak mau kasi org konfuse...ada topik2 lain macam reverse polarity reverse wound, alnico magnets, ceramic, fishpaper bobbins, wound coil tap, demagnetized pickups dan banyak lagi..

for now, thats it!

woof!
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soundfreak22nd
PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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sape pnah try pikap ibanez INF1 n INF2?

boleh bg review sket?
hihih..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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peh info IZZI ngan Mr.Woof...

walaupon aku x brapa paham...at least aku dpt gambaran...

sbb aku igt, ada modal nti nk upgrade pickup Squier adik aku ahaha
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Fuuhhhh

Nyaris2 aku nk reply, jgn lupa tuk pilih stagered,
bc pny bc, bro woof pn ader, bertambah musykill aku,
terfkr plak, apsal trlmbt bc smpai 2 page???
HAAHH!!!
tu dia, !!!! 2006

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hah...ahahah
aku up thread nih utk sambung la bro...
ape tu stagered?

byk lagi leh bincang nih...

btw...

aku kena letak TAG la utk thread yg aku korek..utk mengelakkan kekonfiusan...
sorry bro roy...huuuuu Razz

so kalo aku korek aku letak nih

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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staggered pole pieces. dia tak sama tinggi between the six pieces?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ooo....aku pnah tgk pUp mcm tu...
hmm bru aku igt pUp single coil standard utk SX aku...dia tak stagered...
flat...

hmm bru aku tau...ahahahah

Flat-pole vs Staggered-pole Pickups

If you compared a flat-pole pickup to a staggered-pole pickup wound the same way, you would get a little more presence ( like a Fender Amp presence knob), a little more bass and a little more overall output from the flat-pole pickup. Another way to think about it is that a flat-pole pickup will generate a little more output without putting more wire on the pickup coil. Adding more wire changes the frequency response, usually by losing some treble and gaining some bass. If you are already use to using staggered-pole pickups, you may find that you will need to turn the bass down slightly on the amplifier because with a flat-pole pickup you will no longer have to make up for weak low strings.

In most cases the flat-pole pickup will give you a better string balance. The high E won't get buried in the mix like a staggered-pole pickup can. You will also notice that the two low strings are louder than a staggered-pole set, and the G string does not overpower the others.

Staggered-poles create more of a smeared tone when you play more than one note at a time—you may or may not like it. On a staggered-pole pickup the low strings rarely overpower any amp, but they can also sound somewhat subdued or weak. The volume on the G string tends to dominate all others. If you have previously played using only staggered-poles and you don't notice any discrepancies with string-to-string volume balance, you have learned to compensate for them. If you decide to try a flat-pole set, it may take some time to adapt but once you get familiar with the sound, you'll find they work better in most cases than a staggered-pole design. For example, all teles up until around 1956 had flat-poles—no one ever comments that their 1952 telecaster has bad string balance. Also, most Telecasters, Jazzmaster, Mustangs and Fender bass guitars have historically had flat-pole pickups. On Gibson guitars no one ever staggers the adjustable poles as much as strat pickups.

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poundcake wrote:
staggered pole pieces. dia tak sama tinggi between the six pieces?


ya ya yg itu ler,
memang balance between all freq
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