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| deadzid |
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dah selesai part tu, ni aku explain skit pasal track kat Live...
kotak kuning yg ada nombor tu represents track tu punya sound... kalau klik situ means kita "mute" track tu... kalau kaler kuning means dia active la.. sebelah dia ada icon "S" means solo.. so kalau nak dengar this particular track saja, just click to enable this button (the button color then turns to blue)
at the bottom right corner of the window, ada icon "I/O" (input / output), "R" (return channel - utk masuk efx je), "M" (mixer) dan "D" (delay)... biasa enable yg 2 button yg aku highlight tu je..
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| langsuyr wrote: | | ..Memang dulu pun pakai notebook je rekod idea (dan demo) untuk lagu. Ingat tak track "Kau Rachun" yang aku demo kasi kat hang tu? Basic je, memang sebab masa tu asal bunyi sudah supaya bandmembers boleh belajar. |
sorry, aku tak tahan, nak kena komen jugak part ni... heeh 
track "Kau Rachun" yg ko bagi aku tu sungguh sedih la... susah nak tab out chord yg ko main... kurang jelas... tu pasal la ko main key "E", tapi aku intepret jadi "B" huhuhuhu... 
takpe sam, pasni ko install ezdrummer, susun drum track, then add guitar track, pastu bass track lebih kurang, nak ngada-ngada skit tambah keyboard / synth, pastu mix sempoi je.. janji clear... tak payah pening2 kepala nak setting eq pelik ni... tu kerje sound engineer, musician asal kluar bunyi & idea yg kita ndak, ok la tuh, betui dak? hahhaha...
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| langsuyr |
| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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drum track aku program pakai fruity loops v3.
tu la ni nak belajar betul2 sampai cecah cucur atap ni... nak beli mic cantik satu, headphone cun satu, bass gitar satu.... apa lagi?
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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mengikut list barang2 kemas ko tu, aku rasa ko nak kena ada distortion khas utk direct recording...takleh harap kat Bulldog / DS1 / Zoom G2.. unless kalau ko nak miking from amp... antara distortion utk recording yg bagus: - Behringer GDI21
- Tech21 SansAmp GT2
- Behringer V-Amp 2
- POD (2.0, XT, xtLive), etc...
selain tu, aku rasa better upgrade soundcard, SB Live kurang menyengat ehhehehe...better upgrade ke soundcard with ASIO support ie: m-audio, e-mu, esi, tascam, edirol, etc...ada banyak option uk dipilih, usb, firewire, pci, etc etc... pening.. pening...
hmmm nampak mcm banyak nak kena budget ni.. tak cukup budget? tak payah beli bass... pakai je midi bass (Broomstick Bass, Spectrasonic Trilogy, etc)
BUT WAIT!
why not get both distortion + soundcard at the price of one??!
hehehehe (strategi promote mcm gampang)
aku suggest beli Line 6 TonePort UX2..
you got the best amp simulations, pedals, efx, etc...
plus, an audio interface with ASIO support!
connects to the notebook via USB...
uhuhuuhh... end of promotion...
amacam sam, ada ter-rachun tak?
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| langsuyr |
| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| danger3s |
| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: |
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bro langsuir, dulu masa aku mula2 belaja cubase aku siap beli DVD tutorial kat ebay sebab nak get to the basics. Ko cuba lah cari ebay ke mane ke, sure ade punya. Tadi aku duk search2 kat torrent pun ade je orang upload DVD rip utk Ableton Live Tutorial.
Pasal cubase, aku cadangkan ko beli yang original je la macam aku, bukan mahal pun, 2-3 ribu je. Ko cuba la tengok kot2 kedai torrentspy tu bukak lagi sebab aku beli kat situ aritu kakakakka |
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| langsuyr wrote: | bila aku track gitar, by default dia recorded on left channel walaupun aku pilih stereo. So kat track volume tu cuma satu "indicator" lights je la yang menyala (warna hijau yang gerak2 turun naik ikut gitar tu).
Aku rekod 2 track gitar dah... tapi dua2 recorded left channel.
1. Camana aku nak pan satu recorded gitar track tu ke kanan?
2. Camana by default aku nak rekod track gitar tu right channel ataupun stereo? |
sorry sam, semalam aku tak masuk ofis...
bagi menjawab soalan pertama tu, why not instead of ko record as stereo, try record it as mono..
- insert audio track, rename it as "1 Guitar"
- set the Input Type to "Ext. In"
- set the Input Channel to "1" (biasanya ni utk left channel)
- start recording... hasilya lebih kurang mcm Rajah 1 ni...
Rajah 1: Recording guitar track in mono mode
- insert another audio track, bagi la nama apa2 pon ("guitar copy" ke)
- set the Input Type to "1-Guitar" (which is the guitar track yg kita rekod tadi)
- set the Input Channel to either "Post FX" or "Pre FX"
- set the monitoring buttons to "In" (instead of "Auto" - by default)
Rajah 2: Create new track to monitor "1-Guitar" track
Note:- so now, track 2 ni akan play whatever sound yg datang dari track "1-Guitar" tadi...
- kalau track "1-Guitar" ada letak post-efx (ie: chorus), maka track 2 pon akan dengar efx chorus tu.. sebab masa step 7 tadi, kita set Input Channel sbg "Post FX"... so kalau ak clean je tanpa efx, pilih "Pre FX" sbg Input Channel...
- Klik pada button "M" kat lower right corner of the window... so panel Mixer Section pon appear (refer Rajah 3)
- kat sini ada track pan, by default dia set kpd "C" (center)
- utk track "1-Guitar", set pan to "50R" (full pan to the right)
- utk track 2, set pan to "50L" (full pan to the left)
- so now, kita dah dpt left + right channel utk track guitar ni.. yay!
Rajah 3: Panning on both tracks
- BUT WAIT! utk menjadikan track ni lebih menarik, sila ikut langkah seterusnya!
- Klik pada button "D" kat lower right corner of the window... so panel Track Delay section pon appear (refer Rajah 4)
- set value utk Track Delay ni kpd few milliseconds (ie: 30 to 70 ms - ikut citarasa)
- so anda akan dapat efx stereo yg lebih lazat dpt biasa... yay lagi sekali!
Rajah 4: Set delay for the second track
untuk soalan kedua tu, aku rasa tu kena melibatkan hardware la.. sbb mmg input SB Live ko tu boleh terima input stereo, tapi output dari jack guitar akan sentiasa send mono signal.. even kalau pakai stereo cables pon tak guna jugak...
antara solution dia:
1) beli mixer kecik mcm Behringer UB-802
2) guna DI-box utk convert dari 1/4" jack kpd XLR (kena ada mixer la jugak hehe)
3) upgrade to a better audio interface (rekemen - TonePort UX2 huhuhu)
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| danger3s wrote: | bro langsuir, dulu masa aku mula2 belaja cubase aku siap beli DVD tutorial kat ebay sebab nak get to the basics. Ko cuba lah cari ebay ke mane ke, sure ade punya. Tadi aku duk search2 kat torrent pun ade je orang upload DVD rip utk Ableton Live Tutorial.
Pasal cubase, aku cadangkan ko beli yang original je la macam aku, bukan mahal pun, 2-3 ribu je. Ko cuba la tengok kot2 kedai torrentspy tu bukak lagi sebab aku beli kat situ aritu kakakakka |
whoa.. thanx for the tips! tak terpikir lak nak usya dvd tutorial! aku cuma sempat beli magazine Computer Music Speacial - Ableton Live 6, tu pon rasa mcm best giler dah! huhuu...
hmmm rm2-3 ribu boleh beli guitar, audio interface, multi-efx, etc etc etc hahahaa...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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yeay... thanks deadzid, tak sabar nak balik umah nak try...
sebelum tu, one more question hehehe...
dah habis rekod semua, camana nak wrap semua into one song, convert ke MP3 dan esoknya aku boleh ulang2 dengar composition sendiri guna Ipod?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Go to File > Render To Disk... (Ctrl+Shift+R)
tapi boleh render to Wav or Aiff je...
kena pakai software lain la utk convert ke mp3...
audio catalyst ke...
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| Mad Souls |
| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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riff gitar ko sedap...mmg metal habis. tapi sound drum..terlalu robot. aku suggest ko pakai ezdrummer..baru la human sikit. haa..zid..apa lagi..tutorial utk ezdrummer pulak..hehe. 
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