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T|melessness
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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jeeli wrote:
lg 1 nak tanya la ... kenapa ada bnyk bentuk2 jenis gitar nih ?? tak kira jenama apa pon ...

contohnya .. LP , flying V , axe , jenis mcm fender , mcm la ...

soalan nya - adakah bentuk2 body gitar jugak mempengaruhi jenis lagu yg kita main kan ...

contoh la pakai flying V tpi main lagu2 60an ... tone pd gitar tuh sama ker ? atau mmg tak sesuai flying V utk main 60an ... sory la nih soklan budo ...
aku mmg jahil sngt nih ...
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LP pulak pd mulanya genre sesuai pd hard core , country ... tpi aku tgk james hetfield metallica pon dh pakai LP ESP , bnyk lg artis lain yg main lagu metal pon pakai LP ...

kadang ada org dia suka gibson LP tpi dia nak main lagu2 metal .. dgn gibson tuh ada kah sesuai tone nya utk lagu2 metal ? ...



aku rasa mmg mempengaruhi sesuatu genre music.. mcm flying V secara fizikal aje dah tak berape sesuai utk main jazz.. rupa fizikal guitar tuh dah cukup mencermin kan konsep music yg nak dimain kan.. ape arah tujuan main music kalo takde konsep? atau pun tatau konsep? sama la juga ko nak main metal tapi pakai guitar jazz semi hollow.. jadi mental org kata..hehehe

kita amik contoh la kan sesuai ke kalo zaman Beetle..dgn konsep music dorang tuh..dorang guna B.C rich kerry king..contoh aje la kan.. hehehe!!

itu baru fizikal guitar.. belum masuk bab electronic dia lagi.. esp byk pakai pikap EMG81 dgn 85.. aku rasa pikap nih sampai ke tua nak sound jazz tak dpt..
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Master-IB wrote:
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wahh bajet esp itu dah kira kaya tuh..heheheheh.. LTD o.k kot.. ntah byk sgt spesis esp nih.. tapi yang terbaik dah tentu (ikut turutan) Esp, Edwards, Grassroots, LTD.. ade lagi sebijik tak silap aku adik beradik esp nih tapi tak ingat la nama dia..


Navigator kot?

hehe dah lama aku ngidam LTD..ESP mahal sgt..


ntah la aku pun tak pasti Navigator ke hape lupa..hehehe..
LTD pun bukan murah bro guitar collection jual.. sekang nih dah kena tuka simpulan bahasa dulu dulu ' alah membeli menang memakai '..
tuka ' menang membeli menang memakai '.. heheheh..
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afiqme wrote:
ikram1991 wrote:
x de tempat murah2 ke..
suggest skit huhuhuhu


kalu gitar murah .. dulu aku suka tgk gitar samick ... sebab at most gitar die yg murah tu ada kualiti juga ... epiphone pun penah buat gitar die kilang samick ... tapi yg skang nih punya aku tak tau la kualiti sama mcm dulu ke tak ... n aku pun tak sure sapa yang bawak samcik skang ni ...


Aku rasa pernah2 dengar, Ibanez made in Indonesia,, satu kilang ngan Samick ... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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T|melessness wrote:

ntah la aku pun tak pasti Navigator ke hape lupa..hehehe..
LTD pun bukan murah bro guitar collection jual.. sekang nih dah kena tuka simpulan bahasa dulu dulu ' alah membeli menang memakai '..
tuka ' menang membeli menang memakai '.. heheheh..


betul2 tak murah pon LTD tu...abih camne...dah jatuh cinta ngan bunyi LTD/ESP tuh.. Laughing stakat ni buat idam2 je la dulu...

nak menang membeli tu mmg payah tu..ehehe
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T|melessness wrote:
jeeli wrote:
lg 1 nak tanya la ... kenapa ada bnyk bentuk2 jenis gitar nih ?? tak kira jenama apa pon ...

contohnya .. LP , flying V , axe , jenis mcm fender , mcm la ...

soalan nya - adakah bentuk2 body gitar jugak mempengaruhi jenis lagu yg kita main kan ...

contoh la pakai flying V tpi main lagu2 60an ... tone pd gitar tuh sama ker ? atau mmg tak sesuai flying V utk main 60an ... sory la nih soklan budo ...
aku mmg jahil sngt nih ...
Laughing

LP pulak pd mulanya genre sesuai pd hard core , country ... tpi aku tgk james hetfield metallica pon dh pakai LP ESP , bnyk lg artis lain yg main lagu metal pon pakai LP ...

kadang ada org dia suka gibson LP tpi dia nak main lagu2 metal .. dgn gibson tuh ada kah sesuai tone nya utk lagu2 metal ? ...



aku rasa mmg mempengaruhi sesuatu genre music.. mcm flying V secara fizikal aje dah tak berape sesuai utk main jazz.. rupa fizikal guitar tuh dah cukup mencermin kan konsep music yg nak dimain kan.. ape arah tujuan main music kalo takde konsep? atau pun tatau konsep? sama la juga ko nak main metal tapi pakai guitar jazz semi hollow.. jadi mental org kata..hehehe

kita amik contoh la kan sesuai ke kalo zaman Beetle..dgn konsep music dorang tuh..dorang guna B.C rich kerry king..contoh aje la kan.. hehehe!!

itu baru fizikal guitar.. belum masuk bab electronic dia lagi.. esp byk pakai pikap EMG81 dgn 85.. aku rasa pikap nih sampai ke tua nak sound jazz tak dpt..


Pada pendapat aku laa... Cetusan idea sesuatu genre muzik baru adalah datangnya dari alat muzik yang dipakai oleh pencetus... Bukannya cipta muzik dulu then cari alat ape yg sesuai untuk muzik tersebut. Fizikal sseorang manusia, bangsa, umur dll tak menentukan apa genre muzik yg sesuai bagi seseorang penyanyi, tapi tone suara penyanyi yg menentukan genre muzik mana yg sesuai. Sama gak cam gitar, yg lebih penting adalah tonenya bukan rekabentuk dia. Tapi ada jugak gitar yg versatile, yang sesuai dengan semua genre muzik.
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itu baru fizikal guitar.. belum masuk bab electronic dia lagi.. esp byk pakai pikap EMG81 dgn 85.. aku rasa pikap nih sampai ke tua nak sound jazz tak dpt..

- aku main jazz pakai 81 neck. hahahha. dengan lespaul copy.
- kasih kureng skit output, roll down volume separuh. tanak hot sangat.
- kasih adjust tone tumpoi skit.
- Asalkan lick and chord match kuar la dia nyer feel.
- tapi kalo nak kuar hollow nyer bunyi tong tong tong tu payah ler. hehehhe.
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Kat malaysia ada ke gitar jenama douglass contoh mcm ni

aku tgk website yg bro time bg bnyk gitar murah2 tapi x pernah nampak pown sekitar2 malaysia...sx bnyk lerrr... huhuhuhu
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T|melessness wrote:
jeeli wrote:
ikram1991 wrote:
sorry arr bro jelli
x minat la bro...
lg pon tgh kumpul duit ni nk discuss je dulu huhuhu..


yer la .. gitar aku tak best ... made in china kan ... Embarassed .. tgk title cari GRG170DX .. alang2 ambik jer la aku nya tuh ... huhu ... Laughing ...

p/s ; nak tau la otai2 sekian ... ESP nih tak best ker ? yg made in korea ker ? mcm V200 , kh202 , atau V sirie dari ESP LTD ... yer la mengidam dean dave mustaine jer .. tgh kompol2 luit ... bajet yg ada skrng takat nih esp tuh jer la ...


wahh bajet esp itu dah kira kaya tuh..heheheheh.. LTD o.k kot.. ntah byk sgt spesis esp nih.. tapi yang terbaik dah tentu (ikut turutan) Esp, Edwards, Grassroots, LTD.. ade lagi sebijik tak silap aku adik beradik esp nih tapi tak ingat la nama dia..


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P/s:agak2 la bro timeless saya ni budak baru main gitar 7 string putus jari nnt hahahahhahaha Laughing Laughing


yang 6 string pun byk la..hehehe


err .. salah laks ... bukan ESP tpi LTD ... aku tgk rege kat spore lg murah la ... kalu nak cari LTD banding dgn msia ... aku pon tak tau sound LTD nih mcmna ... takut tersalah beli rugi jer ...

kalu compare LTD kh202 emg81/85 dgn dean body basswood , pick dean humbuckers (made in china)
mana yg best utk metal sound ? kalu dean tuh tak cukup metal sound nya , bule ker pakai Sd-JB supaya lg sedap metal sound tuh ..

- lg 1 tentang nech thru ? org ckp sustain lebih ... maksudnya aku kurang paham ler ... Laughing

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huhu.. panjang kalu nak explain in detail tuh ... sustain ni die ada kombinasi ... jari mesti kuat, pickup yang membantu sustain mcm hotrails... neck thru tu ada yg cakap mitos je .. paling senang ko pakai aja fernandes sustainer ... Wink
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Pada pendapat aku laa... Cetusan idea sesuatu genre muzik baru adalah datangnya dari alat muzik yang dipakai oleh pencetus... Bukannya cipta muzik dulu then cari alat ape yg sesuai untuk muzik tersebut. Fizikal sseorang manusia, bangsa, umur dll tak menentukan apa genre muzik yg sesuai bagi seseorang penyanyi, tapi tone suara penyanyi yg menentukan genre muzik mana yg sesuai. Sama gak cam gitar, yg lebih penting adalah tonenya bukan rekabentuk dia. Tapi ada jugak gitar yg versatile, yang sesuai dengan semua genre muzik.


dah di jelas kan electronic , pikap sesuatu guitar mmg dah dipilih dgn kesesuaian mengikut fizikal guitar itu sendiri.. jadi kita buat la pilihan genre music yang nak dimain kan..dan pakai lah guitar yg bersesuaian.. kalau hanya bersandar kan pada tone.. guitar jazz pun boleh bedal main brutal deathmetal.. tapi ade kah fizikal guitar jazz nih sesuai???..
berbalik pada soalan bro jeeli kenapa byk shape guitar.. ini lah tujuan nye..utk kepelbagaian.. syarikat guitar tak buat suka suka aje shape guitar dorang.. mesti ade tujuan utk konsep atau genre tertentu..

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- aku main jazz pakai 81 neck. hahahha. dengan lespaul copy.
- kasih kureng skit output, roll down volume separuh. tanak hot sangat.
- kasih adjust tone tumpoi skit.
- Asalkan lick and chord match kuar la dia nyer feel.
- tapi kalo nak kuar hollow nyer bunyi tong tong tong tu payah ler. hehehhe.


ahahhaha.. ko ape pun jadik bro.. bila mau lepak nih?..
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dalam metal pun ada macam2 sound ... ada yang bingit, ada yg tebal, ada yg nipis ... pd pendapat aku, ko cuba je experiment apa2 setup sebab itu satu learning process utk ko mengenali sound until ko jumpa betul2 sound apa yang ko nak... Wink
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ikram1991 wrote:
Kat malaysia ada ke gitar jenama douglass contoh mcm ni

aku tgk website yg bro time bg bnyk gitar murah2 tapi x pernah nampak pown sekitar2 malaysia...sx bnyk lerrr... huhuhuhu


douglass,brice,sx dan agile nih Woh Fatt dah pegang dealer license.. tapi yng dorang bwk masuk Sx aje kot.. dlm byk byk nih Agile yg paling o.k.. yg lain tuh mmg guitar bajet..
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owh...gitar bajet..
wakakaka..
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satu lagi guitar yg agak menarik utk dilayan... SPEAR (tiada kaitan dgn Britny Spears atau Britny Fox)

http://www.spearguitar.com/index.asp

model yg aku rasa "cool" utk dimiliki - RD-Relic... klau tak silap, guitar2 ni di assemble di Vietnam (huh jarang dgr tuh, tak tau la kualiti mcm mana)... parts dari US (at least that's what they claim)..
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mmg antik la gitar tu....
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