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| boyroy |
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ernie ball no 5
gauge 0.032 selalu buzz walo string br,
walhal bila tkr string brand lain yg sama gauge x buzz plak
tp mmg lembut la
ader baik, ader buruk
kalo string tegang biasanya di sbb kn
1. string gauge besar yg x sesuai ngan
jari c pemain,
2. guna string brand yg keras -cnth d addario
3. action tinggi
4. picking technic msh blm terror, hahahaha
counter measure
1. tkr ngan gauge yg lbh kecil
2. try guna brand yg lmbt -cnth ernie ball
3. rendah kan action -refer cr cam Izzi ajar tur
4. kna mkn garam seguni dulu br bley cakap
. wa da mkn garam lebey dr lu,,,hahahhaaha...../
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| Jiro |
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| ETERNAL |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Siapa jual string GHS di M'sia?
Kalau tak ada, aku nak rekemen bro Boyroy import byk2, jual online. Bro boyroy mesti byk kaki importer boleh join Tolyn. Antara tone master yg pakai GHS ialah Eric Johnson, David Gilmour, Santana, Zakk Wilde, John 5, Mike McReady (Pearl Jam), Tom Morrello, Flea etc.
Kelebihan GHS
- GHS guna alloy core.. Earnie ball guna steel core (tolong double check)
- Tapi dua2 guna nickel plated steel utk balut core masing2.
- Tone GHS lebih kompleks tapi balanced berbanding ernie ball yg glassy
- stays longer dan sound kekal terang walaupun dah lama, lambat karat.
- harga lebih kurang je dgn Ernie Ball
Kelemahan GHS
- In terms of playability, dia agak keras sikit utk bending, feel tak sehebat Ernie Ball.
Counter statement: Feel lebih keras maknanya control lebih tinggi.
Support statement: D'addario pun keras berbanding Ernie Ball.
General statement:
Macam tu lah dunia, pusing2 ada baiknya ada buruknya. Kalau selalu fokus penilaian pada yang negative aja, mmg nampak buruk la sentiasa.
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| Jiro |
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| jeeli |
| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ETERNAL wrote: | | jeeli wrote: | | mmg ernie ball cepat karat .. aku ingat nk pki ernie ball 4,5,6 ... 1,2,3 guna Daddario bule ker ? ... skrng guna d'addario ... 0'09-0'42 |
pakai jer diaddario .008 - .042 hehe |
ahhaa .. skrng pon mmg pki daddario ... cipanya masa beli ari tu tak bukak dulu ... tali no3 dgn 4 sama sz ... beli dh lama .. nak tak nak , pki jer dulu ... aku sugest korang cek dulu la ... sb aku dh terkena ... huhu ... mungkin masa kt kilang salah paking kot ...
nak try ghs lak .. mcm izzi ckp ... mungkin best kot ... huhu
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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nk tumpang tanya...kalau nk main tune mcm Eb,drop D ngn standard tune mne gauge yg sesuai?? ke bleh tibai je mana2 gauge.... 
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| Jiro |
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| ETERNAL |
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| salammmm wrote: | | nk tumpang tanya...kalau nk main tune mcm Eb,drop D ngn standard tune mne gauge yg sesuai?? ke bleh tibai je mana2 gauge.... |
kalau nak ikut kan... (ikut aku la.. bukan ikut expert)...
kalau salah satu tali drop dari standard tuning.. ia akan memberi beban kepada tali2 yang lain kerana setiap strings mempunyai tahap tensionnya sendiri...
tambahan pula kalau nak drop tuning gauge kena kasi besar sket (ikut kesesuaian)...
aku pakai yang ni...
http://store.daddario.com/category/339125/EXL117_Medium_Top__Extra_Heavy_Bottom_11_-_56
kalau nak lagi low...
pakai yang ni
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| ETERNAL wrote: | | salammmm wrote: | | nk tumpang tanya...kalau nk main tune mcm Eb,drop D ngn standard tune mne gauge yg sesuai?? ke bleh tibai je mana2 gauge.... |
kalau nak ikut kan... (ikut aku la.. bukan ikut expert)...
kalau salah satu tali drop dari standard tuning.. ia akan memberi beban kepada tali2 yang lain kerana setiap strings mempunyai tahap tensionnya sendiri...
tambahan pula kalau nak drop tuning gauge kena kasi besar sket (ikut kesesuaian)...
aku pakai yang ni...
http://store.daddario.com/category/339125/EXL117_Medium_Top__Extra_Heavy_Bottom_11_-_56
kalau nak lagi low...
pakai yang ni
[img][http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/421/category_image/x01_339134.jpg[/img] |
Et,
sbnrny kalo kita drop 1 string,
then kita biar yg lain tanpa btl kan tune dia,
memang ya, tali yg lain beban,
tp bila kt da tune kn blk string yg lain tu,
beban dia sama mcm biasa gak,
tp beban akn krg pd yg drop,
Izzi,
Ghs da ader da, Incek Jibraun ader jual rsny
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: |
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boyroy...
izinkan patik yang hina ini mempetah statement tuanku... hahaha
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| sungaipelong |
| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | Siapa jual string GHS di M'sia?
Antara tone master yg pakai GHS ialah Eric Johnson, David Gilmour, Santana, Zakk Wilde, John 5, Mike McReady (Pearl Jam), Tom Morrello, Flea etc.
Kelebihan GHS
- Tone GHS lebih kompleks tapi balanced berbanding ernie ball yg glassy
- stays longer dan sound kekal terang walaupun dah lama, lambat karat.
- harga lebih kurang je dgn Ernie Ball
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Setuju dgn bro IZZI 
Pendapat peribadi sya,dr segi tone mg bright,more sustain,tahan karat (compare dgn brand2 yg sya dh pakai i.e ernie,elixir,d'addario,esp etc)..wlaupun ia keras sedikit..tp bg sya amat best.bleh prektis jari skali..haha
Saya peminat GHS Boomers 9-42 (pasni nak try 10-46)..setakat yg sya tau,penjual tegar string GHS ialah Guitar Collection sbb sya slalu beli di kedai ni (1 Utama New Wing).. |
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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jiro:youjizz? ape tu?
kalau mengikut hukum fiziknya mmg ada betul jgak la apa yg eternal ngn b0yr0y ckpkn tu..
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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just nak share.. kalau salah tolong betulkan...
kita anggap nilai tension yang ditanggung keenam2 tali pada tuning standard adalah 60 (senang kira)... tuning & harmonic time ni sangat stabil...
anggap beban setiap tali adalah 10 setiap satu (malas nak kire kompliketed ikut gauge hehe)
standard
1=10 ; 2=10 ; 3=10 ; 4=10 ; 5=10 ; 6=10
Sekiranya tali no.6 diturunkan ketengannya... nilai tension akan diagihkan kepada tali2 lain... semasa tali ini diubah ketegangan nya... tali2 lain akan lebih tegang dan tuning akan menjadi sedikit sharp...
drop D
1=7.5 ; 2=10.5 ; 3=10.5 ; 4=10.5 ; 5=10.5; 6=10.5
Selepas ditune kembali... tali no.6 masih lagi kurang nilai tension/ketegangan talinya... ini telah diagihkan kepada tali2 yang lain..
kerana nilai nya yang agak kecil.. kita tak nampak bezanya..
tapi kalau pakai tremolo... tremolo akan turun sedikit kerana nilai tension jatuh dan dah tak balance dengan tension spring...
drop D tuned
1=9 ; 2=10.2 ; 3=10.2 ; 4=10.2 ; 5=10.2; 6=10.2
For example:
Aku amek dari website D'addario perbezaan tension untuk 3 gauge pada note E (tali 1)
Diameter Tension
Note inches mm lbs kg
E 0.009 0.23 13.1 5.94
E 0.010 0.25 16.2 7.35
E 0.011 0.28 19.6 8.89
lagi satu contoh:
0.032 tune pada D(4th) = 12.74 (tension)
0.042 tune pada A(5th) = 11.93 (tension)
jumlah tension = 24.67
kalau tune drop 3 steps..
0.032 tune pada A(4th) = 7.17 (tension)
0.042 tune pada E(5th) = 6.71(tension)
jumlah tension = 13.88
so.
jumlah perbezaan tension = 10.79
argh...serabut.. malas nak sambung.. ahha
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