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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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ETERNAL wrote: | klu DS-1... bleh ker tambah MOD kasi banyak function...
3 knob je... mcm tak cukup la..
hehe
encik otromen..
camner nak mod kasi 'sound range' pedal jadi besar..
bleh ker buat??
contohnye distort
- dari soft ke crunch
- dari low ke Heavy..
aku penah pakai DS-1 Taiwan..
kejap jer dah bosan... |
Sorry ETERNAL.
Aku miss baca plak ne...
Sebenarnya DS-1 tu tak boleh la nak buat terlalu flexible. dan besar range sebab ianya hanya la seketul pedal yang kuarkan distortion.
- ia bukan la preamp pedal.
- Even DS-1 pun biasanya perlu pedal sokongan seperti OD or ts sebelomnya dan EQ pedal didepanya.
cth
TS> DS-1 > EQ pedal 7 band = good combination
- akan hasikkan lebih banyak jenis style musik nak main.
- TS boleh provide lebih gain dan fuller kepada DS-1.
- kalo mod pun, sebenarnya aku bagi balance frequency respone pedal ne supaya tak bunyi nipis san kurang bass. Dan bagi lebih smooth distortion dan kadang kala terpaksa gadaikan sedikit distortion akibat terlalu nak smooth. Supaya ia lebih bukak dan tak banyak hilang frequency asal dari guitar.
Jika nak pedal yang betul betul wide range giler babas, aku syorkan sanamp GT-2. Tapi kalo cucuk pedal ne depan amp guitar, pulas lebih skit low knob dia utk lebih headroom dan kurangkan skit high.
MT-2 adalah contoh pedal with range yang besar sebab ada eq yang ganti just tone knob pada pedal biasa. Tapi distortion a bit mekanikal yang tak berapa nak ngam dengan orang main blues.
Tapi pekara paling utama adalah amplifier juga. Without amp yang tak cukup power ia takan hasilkan the magic.
Help this help. correct me am i wrong. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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ETERNAL |
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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yeah it helps
use ts9 or other pedal as booster??
so gabungan pedal adalah solution yang terbaik untuk 'wide-ranged-sound"
tapi everything ada bad side and good side..
banyak pedal.. more power needed..
sound asal akan hilang/ berkurangan... ex. distort
tapi kalau dah ada pedal eq.. pening plak nak balance eq kat amp..
so just keep simple..
aku campur
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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | use ts9 or other pedal as booster??
so gabungan pedal adalah solution yang terbaik untuk 'wide-ranged-sound" |
Aku dah tak boleh dengar clean or distortion sound without TS9dx brown mod aku.
Quote: | tapi everything ada bad side and good side..
banyak pedal.. more power needed..
sound asal akan hilang/ berkurangan... ex. distort |
Aku stuju juga. Terutamanya jika pakai pedal yang tak true bypass. Tapi tak semua telinga orang boleh dengar dia punya loose ne. Try guna loop pedal macam deadzid pernah buat dulu.
Quote: | tapi kalau dah ada pedal eq.. pening plak nak balance eq kat amp..
so just keep simple.. |
memula kita set kat amp eq for clean or crunch type sound. then hidupkan pedal semua 12 clock. dan adjust tone volume dan drive... last baru kita hidupkan eq utk craft balik tone dia, mana tahu nak buang bunyi tajam sangat or add lebih bass. EQ pun boleh diguna utk solo boost dengan hanya boost middle frequency [3 slider yang tengah]. or buat scoop middle ala ala metalica. Mula kan la dengan 7 band eq, sebab banyak benda boleh belajar dari frequency ne.
Quote: | aku campur
analog+digital = wide range aka flexible |
dari digital > digital hibrid > analog > SS > all tube = semua aku balunn.
Kalo tahu cara guna semuanya akan jadi cunn. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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agogok |
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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nak menyelit satu soalan kat sini.
ada sesapa layan lagu2 band kalmah. kalau ada sesapa buleh xplain pasal gtr sound band ni. rhythm gtr tu, mcmana nak dpt sound mcm tu. apa pedal yg dia pakai. tone nya low , ini ke yg dipanggil 'low end'? |
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adjuan |
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Bass Effects |
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i'm thinking to get myself a distortion effect for bass. Is the effect same like guitar or means tat i can use guitar distortion effect for bass use???Wat do you recommend? Actually i'm not really familiar wif bass's effects. Wat effect you recommend to use?? |
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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agogok wrote: | nak menyelit satu soalan kat sini.
ada sesapa layan lagu2 band kalmah. kalau ada sesapa buleh xplain pasal gtr sound band ni. rhythm gtr tu, mcmana nak dpt sound mcm tu. apa pedal yg dia pakai. tone nya low , ini ke yg dipanggil 'low end'? |
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Bass Effects |
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adjuan wrote: | i'm thinking to get myself a distortion effect for bass. Is the effect same like guitar or means tat i can use guitar distortion effect for bass use???Wat do you recommend? Actually i'm not really familiar wif bass's effects. Wat effect you recommend to use?? |
topic ni try tanya2 kat Bass Talk punya thread.. ![Cool](./images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) _________________ save me from myself of what's left of my soul after I've sold some part of it |
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ultraman_cosmo |
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Bass effect and guitar effect.
Basicly, jika ada satu pedal utk guitar, maka boleh dibuat satu pedal jenis yg sama utk bass punya, circuit sama tapi maybe componen value berbeza.
Distortion
- Benda ne sedikit berbeza antara bass dan guitar.
- distortion buasanya kita kenali dengan hard clipping so jika terlalu banyak bass freq masuk before distortion section akan menyebabkan FuZZY motoboat type distort.
- So utk bebenda yg bass ne, soft clipping adalah lebih sesuai. Soft clipping adalah overdrive type pedal macam ts, or SD-1, OD-3.
- walo macam mana pun, kebiasaan pedal guitar macam boss, ada low filter, mean ada amount bass yg dibuang supaya pedal tak sound fuzzy.
- kita boleh buang this filter or kasih buka supaya freq bass boleh dibuang.
- Jika anda tak biasa dengan tweak pedal sebegini, aku syorkan gunalah pedal bass utk bass dan pedal guitar utk guitar.
- kebanyakan OD boleh digunakan kat bass tapi filter disesuaikan bass freq lebih banyak boleh masuk dan sweet spot berbeza.
- ODB-3 utk bass adalah 95% sama circuit dengan guitar just beberapa value berubah dan filter yg sesuaian utk bass.
EQ
- Sebenarnya, range freq utk bass dan guitar berbeza.
- circuit adalah sama, mean a eq pedal for guitar boleh digunakan utk bass, tapi freq yg terlibat dan sweet pada bass tak ada.
- freq target dan sweet utk eq bass berbeza dengan guitar.
- walo cam mana pun it not imposible nak modify dari bass eq ker guitar atau sebaliknya.
Wah
- wah punya circuit utk guitar dan bass juga sama cuma sweep cap berbeza supaya pada guitar bass wah effect lebih menyerlah.
- jika guna wah guitar kengkadang tak respone pada low bass freq.
- mana mana wah with classic wah circuit design kita boleh buat switching bass wah.
Module, delay dan reverb.
- kebiasiasaan nya bebenda seperti reverb, delay lebih open kepada both bass or guitar freq. tapi still sesetengah tak respone kepada very low bass freq.
- Tapi benda benda yg melibatkan resonance effect macam vibrato, chorus or phase sepatutnya berbeza antara guitar dan bass.
- ini disebabkan feedback resonance bagi bass dan guitar berbeza.
- aku tak biasa dengan circuit delay dan reverb so tak banyak boleh diperkatakan.
Kesimpulannya,
- kebanyakan bass effect sebenarnya boleh digunakan utk guitar dan kadang kadang lebih syok sekiranya guitar kita jenis bassy wood macam kayu mohagany. Cuma kita akan kehilangan bright utk sesetengah keadaan.
- bass dengan pedal guitar akan menyebabkan bunyi bass kering dan loose the body kerana pedal guitar ada filter yg tak membenarkan freq terlalu rendah masuk.
- Overdrive type drive dengan soft clipping lebih sesuai dengan bass, Hard clipping plak lebih sesuai utk freq guitar.
Bass dan effect
- kebiasaannya bass ne orang tak berminat pakai effect macam main guitar.
- Diorang akan lebih berminat kepada active preamp utk bagi bunyi bass lebih menerlah dan merdu.
- onboard active or out board preamp antara yg digemari.
- lebih kepada natural bass dan originality tone.
- ada yg gemar direct recording atau micing depand dengan situation.
- utk pedal yg sesuai dengan bass, tanya la kat bass section. aku pun tak biasa tau aper bassist biasa pakai.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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aku nak ganti the whole circuit board Vox Wah aku. Ko ada cukup alat tak kat rumah? bleh aku datang.. _________________ Gelanggang guitar : http://guitarden.starahead.com |
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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IZZI wrote: | aku nak ganti the whole circuit board Vox Wah aku. Ko ada cukup alat tak kat rumah? bleh aku datang.. |
Alat aper wan, stakat solder, x der masalah.
- kalo ko nak buat pcb pun tarak masalah, tapi kena ada layout print kat tranparency. lazer print guna tranparency nipis, ada jual kat flat ikan banyak.
- 2 copy, kasih tindan. letak kat lampo, tachap skit then develop n eaching. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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hello ultraman seven nak tanya ni kos utk mod ds-1 baper ringgit eh? |
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Black King Bar wrote: | hello ultraman seven nak tanya ni kos utk mod ds-1 baper ringgit eh? |
u got pm.
Tapi basicly biasanya aku charge RM50 for any mod. kecuali bebenda mod macam true bypass 3dpt switch biasanya kena add lagi. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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pm replied. i love this forum. rasa2nya kalau compile sume discussion siap leh buat buku rujukan nih. hahah. kalaulah ada sesiapa yg rajin buat benda ni....... |
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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ultraman_cosmo wrote: | Black King Bar wrote: | hello ultraman seven nak tanya ni kos utk mod ds-1 baper ringgit eh? |
u got pm.
Tapi basicly biasanya aku charge RM50 for any mod. kecuali bebenda mod macam true bypass 3dpt switch biasanya kena add lagi. |
pehh murahnye bro? Ko tau tak Keeley dgn Analogman charge berapa utk mod satu pedal? mahal gile.. boleh beli pedal baru.. _________________ Gelanggang guitar : http://guitarden.starahead.com |
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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ape beza sound ds-1 mij ngan mit? jauh sgt ke beza mcm fender ngan squier? |
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