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| eniQma |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ultraman_cosmo wrote: | | Quote: |
Agathis ni nama Malaysianya kayu Damar Minyak.
Ia adalah kayu dlm kategori botanical wood bukan hardwood mcm maple, alder, ash, mahogany, ebony, rengas, cengal dan merbau etc.
Pasal sound character utk kayu ni, dikatakan agathis ni lebih mirip kepada character kayu ash: lebih byk low frequency berbanding alder.
Tapi pendapat peribadi aku, kayu ni walaupun ia dari jenis yg sama, natural frequency dia tetap akan berbeza bergantung pada urat kayu, density level, tahap kekeringan. Setiap bahagian pokok adalah unik. Sebab tu kalau org dah sayang guitar dia sebab sound, kalau org nak gantikan dgn guitar baru yg sama model pun belum tentu dia nak..huhu |
yg ne jer gua boleh bagi ++1.
- termasuk la, cara potong, umur kayu dari tarikh ditebang, treantment kayu sebelom dijadikan guitar.
- kayu sekarang banyak guna Kiln supaya cepat kering.
- ada kayu bagus pun tanpa keadah pembkinan yg betul pun bunyi dah lain.
- kadang kadang gabungan kayu tu menyebakan tone guitar tu unik.
- even persekitaraan dalam jangka hayat pokok tu ada meritnya.
- urat kayu, belang itam putih kadang kadang ada kaitan dengan perubahan musim.
- macam cos perhutanan la pulak.
Bukan aper kalo ceta pasal alder, Agathis dan mohagany ne.
- Alder jer ada macam macam spesis maaa.
- Agathis and mohagany pun begitu.
- Dan setiap spesis pun ada grednya ka premium kaa AAA AAAA 20 tahun kaaa.
- alder trabeculosa lom tentu sama warna or bunyi macam incana.
- family genus sama spesis lain lain daaa.
- tapi aku dah tak kisah pasal tu, yg penting thy guitar kena ada good tonewood, bukan bunyi tali guitar semata mata.
- mean ada la ketegory bad tonewood laaaa ya.
- DAn perlu ker super great tonewood.
- guitar buat dari kayu, so kena ada bunyi kayu yg ok.
- luither buat guitar pun pilih kayu bukan sebab kayu tu sedap ker apa.
- Diorang pilih kayu mana yg paling senang dan consisten bg diorang bekerja utk bagi sedap.
- Kalo bikin 100 ada 1 jer sedap, bungkus la business... hahahha.
Zul, pasal kayu dari indon ne.
- sebenarnya kurang berqualiti sebab pembalakan kat situ tak terkawal.
- system zero, papan pun boleh twist jadi spegetti.
- pokok muda pun dia tebang janji boleh masuk lori.
- yg quality plak export europe, sudah baya maa, local nyer semua ujung balak jer tinggal.
- tu lah hakikatnya kalo berkecimpung dalam sukan menarik balak dari natuna indon... kakkakakakakkakakaka. |
yg tinggal paling quality AKAR dia la kot farid.. hahahaha
ye le tu.. benda tak terkawal nih selalunye menghasilkan result yg Cincai..
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| Elohim |
| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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kalo mahogany mcmana yer?  bab kayu ni aku xreti sgt... aku punya gtr pkai mahogany
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| Elohim wrote: | | kalo mahogany mcmana yer? bab kayu ni aku xreti sgt... aku punya gtr pkai mahogany | Jom buat club Ibanez body mahagony..ko jadi presiden...aku lantik ko...mau ka?
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| babloo |
| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: |
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kena cari tapak dirikan kilang dulu baru lantik presiden
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lg satu..
kalo alder body nih..
dia sesuai ngan pickup yg mcm mna lak yew..??
sh13 or sh8 invader..?? |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| thejay91a7x wrote: | lg satu..
kalo alder body nih..
dia sesuai ngan pickup yg mcm mna lak yew..??
sh13 or sh8 invader..?? |
Bagus soalan ko ni. tapi aku tak ada jawapan specifik.
Aku rasa ko kena tau dulu sound body guitar ko punya frequency distribution. try main tanpa cucuk. strum, petik lama2 sampai dapat conclusion character akustik guitar tu. Mungkin bassy ke, middy, trebly atau balanced. Lepas tu ko decide apa yang ko nak lebihkan. Kalau ko inginkan lebih bass kerana bunyi akustik kekurangan bass misalnya, ko pilih antara dua tu yg ada bagi lebih bass.
Ini baru satu decision layer utk pilih pickup. kalau nak lebih detail pasal pickup mungkin kena tgk jenis magnet etc.. mungkin abg ultraman boleh cover pasal ni sebab aku tak tau.
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| thejay91a7x |
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| IZZI wrote: | | thejay91a7x wrote: | lg satu..
kalo alder body nih..
dia sesuai ngan pickup yg mcm mna lak yew..??
sh13 or sh8 invader..?? |
Bagus soalan ko ni. tapi aku tak ada jawapan specifik.
Aku rasa ko kena tau dulu sound body guitar ko punya frequency distribution. try main tanpa cucuk. strum, petik lama2 sampai dapat conclusion character akustik guitar tu. Mungkin bassy ke, middy, trebly atau balanced. Lepas tu ko decide apa yang ko nak lebihkan. Kalau ko inginkan lebih bass kerana bunyi akustik kekurangan bass misalnya, ko pilih antara dua tu yg ada bagi lebih bass.
Ini baru satu decision layer utk pilih pickup. kalau nak lebih detail pasal pickup mungkin kena tgk jenis magnet etc.. mungkin abg ultraman boleh cover pasal ni sebab aku tak tau. |
baru aku tau mcm tuh yew nak pilih pickup..
aku igt main ltak jew apa2 pickup..
he3..
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Belajar la dengar tone guitar acoustically.
- without plug the guitar to the amp.
Teori tone guitar paling real adalah pukul 3 pagi.
- Main la guitar anda kol 3 pagi, dimana semua noise dan sound persekitaran dah kurang.
- main la dalam bilik, dan anda boleh dengar sound sebetulnya guitar anda.
- try main beberapa guitar anda, strat lp semi hollow and anda kan dengar beza sebenar diorang.
- kena faham mana bass, mana mid mana high or lebih komplex lagi macam dynamic, sustain, dan bla bla.
- Aku hanya boleh terima, kalo mamat A kata guitar B tu sedap kalo ini mamat A boleh terang mana satu yg sedap nya.
Trust ur ear.
- sebelom trust ur ear kena train dulu the ear, supaya boleh dengar mana yg sedap, mana yg kureng, mana yg brilliance.
- Amacam nak trus ur ear, nak besakan lower mid atau upper mid pun tak lepas.
- Trust ur ear, khas utk mereka yg tau aper yg diorang nak dengar.
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bro cosmo..kalo di rapatkan stop tail piece tu ke body..agak2 resonate&acoustic nye increase tak?
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| babloo wrote: | | bro cosmo..kalo di rapatkan stop tail piece tu ke body..agak2 resonate&acoustic nye increase tak? |
- pada gua it sound much better berbanding stop tail tinggi.
- Antara sebab nya adalah angle string lepas saddle ker stop tail bertambah.
- tapi ada juga case bunyinya tak berapa bagus.
- so utk alter balik, aku buat wrap string.
- yg improve bayak biasanya sustain laaa.
- and add more bite to the string attack.
- tapi kalo nak tune the guitar to jazz tone, maybe keadah ne yg berapa sesuai, utk rock sure la sustain, bite and attack yg diperlukan.
Antara sebab kena rapat ker body adalah supaya tak der harware yg boleh bergetar.
- cara nak check , dalam keadaan stop tail tak sampai ker base, try check sama ada tiang stud dia ada longgar ker tak.
- kalo longgar, disyorkan rapatkan trus ker body.
- Antara cara utk elakkan getaran pada stop tail ne adalah guna, locking stop tail macam tonepros.
- TonePros locking studs pun terbaik juga.
Memang susah nak setup lespaul bridge dan stop tail, tak sama macam fender or floyd rose.
- aku nyer guitar LP, stop tail dah melekat pada stud, sebab tak sama asal usulnya.
- baiknya, sustain bagus, tak best nya, tail piece tak boleh cabut hahahahha.
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| thejay91a7x |
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| ultraman_cosmo wrote: | Belajar la dengar tone guitar acoustically.
- without plug the guitar to the amp.
Teori tone guitar paling real adalah pukul 3 pagi.
- Main la guitar anda kol 3 pagi, dimana semua noise dan sound persekitaran dah kurang.
- main la dalam bilik, dan anda boleh dengar sound sebetulnya guitar anda.
- try main beberapa guitar anda, strat lp semi hollow and anda kan dengar beza sebenar diorang.
- kena faham mana bass, mana mid mana high or lebih komplex lagi macam dynamic, sustain, dan bla bla.
- Aku hanya boleh terima, kalo mamat A kata guitar B tu sedap kalo ini mamat A boleh terang mana satu yg sedap nya.
Trust ur ear.
- sebelom trust ur ear kena train dulu the ear, supaya boleh dengar mana yg sedap, mana yg kureng, mana yg brilliance.
- Amacam nak trus ur ear, nak besakan lower mid atau upper mid pun tak lepas.
- Trust ur ear, khas utk mereka yg tau aper yg diorang nak dengar. |
dlm erti kata lain ada x bro cosmo's..?? |
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: |
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ye la bro cosmo
boley tlg jelas kn guna Hz bg nama2 yg slalu kita nmpak x mcm kt bwh
1. Low Hz?
2. Low Mid Hz?
3. Mid Hz?
4. High Mid Hz?
5. High Hz?
aku rs bg sesiapa yg biasa main Equalizer akn lbh mudah nk fhm
tntg Hz,
jd kalo nk trg kn sound2 ni lg sng nk fhm kowt
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| thejay91a7x |
| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: |
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tp kalo aku tau la kan..
hz tu unit utk frequency..
he3..
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: |
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boleh bukak thread baru utk bincang lebih lanjut pasal frequency..
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