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| evenfall |
 Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: Fender Stratocaster.Relevankah dgn muzik berat? |
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Salam kpd warga i-bands.net.Saya masih baru disini, jadi mengharapkan tunjuk ajar. 
Saya baru saja beli Fender Stratocaster, menggunakan Seymour Duncan Hot Rails di bahagian bridge, dan 2 unit single-coil pickup di bahagian mid & bridge.Neck,rosewood.Saya tak pasti sama ada routing pickup utk gitar ni S-S-S atau H-S-S, saya nak check...tapi takut tak reti nak pasang balik.
1)Adakah gitar ni sesuai utk muzik berat?Jika YA, apakah cara yg sesuai utk mendapatkan bunyi yg berat(Death Metal, Black Metal etc).Tanpa tukar kedua2 single coil pickups tersebut.
2)Gitar ni hum pada setiap posisi pickups.Lebih2 lagi kalau saya overdosekan gain kat knob effect saya.tapi bila saya main kat studio tak hum pulak....Apakah sebab terjadinya hum tersebut?
Saya masih baru dgn gitar Fender Stratocaster, mmg tak sangka akan pakai gitar ni pun...tak tau mcmana boleh beli...tapi bila dah beli, saya sgt suka bunyi single coil yg keluar...tapi saya tak pasti sama ada mampu atau tak gitar ni keluarkan sound yg berat.Saya ada check Andreas Kisser punya Strat kat youtube, dia pakai full sized humbucker kalau tak silap.
Saya dah jatuh cinta dgn Strat, disebabkan versatility dan karekter tone yg keluar,tapi kurang yakin dgn kemampuan single-coil sized humbucker mengawal distortion & gain melampau tanpa kehilangan tone trademark Fender.
Diharap agar kalian boleh membantu.
Kerjasama kalian saya dahului dgn ucapan terima kaseh.
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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1) Kurang Sesuai (tapi bukan tak sesuai) tapi boleh eksperiment. Gain mmg perlu byk utk metal tp jgn terlalu byk sehingga menyebabkan sound jadi muddy/fizzy. Terlebih gain juga boleh menyumbang ke feedback noise. Kalau ada EQ pedal, cuba cut down sedikit high frequency sbb bentuk body strat produce lebih high frequency. Utk death metal, mungkin kena guna distortion pedal yg dpt produce tone besar (eg; Boss mega distortion, Digitech hardwire etc). tapi ingat, control treble frequency. Gitar hang tu dah dikira H-S-S sebab belakangnya ada pickup humbucker bersaiz single coil.
2) Punca noise mungkin disebabkan gain terlampau byk dalam masa sama terlalu dekat dgn speaker amp dan barang2 elektronik dan juga lampu neon. Single coil pickup tends to be interfered by those factors.
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| evenfall |
| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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owh.terima kasih.
apa brand pedal equalizer yg ok?dan berapa harganya?sebelum ni saya main gitar tak pernah pakai EQ pedal.just plug & play sahaja.
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| Kozam |
| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| jibraun |
| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Waah.. terrer member so setting...Aku tak penah2 dpt pakai single coil bleh dpt sound berat...aku pakai gitar Strats Cap Ayam S S S (Fender Texas) + MXR 6 Equ + Hughes Kettner Blue Edit + Metal Zone, Tak berat2 pun.. huhuhu... mungkin metal yg ko maksud kan tuh metal yg tak berat kot... mcm sound Abu May tuh.. metal gak.. tapi tak berat pun.... tapi sound mcm die mmg sng nak dpt kalau pakai single... tapi tak gemok la kalau pakai single...camne nak main death metal..
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| jibraun wrote: | Waah.. terrer member so setting...Aku tak penah2 dpt pakai single coil bleh dpt sound berat...aku pakai gitar Strats Cap Ayam S S S (Fender Texas) + MXR 6 Equ + Hughes Kettner Blue Edit + Metal Zone, Tak berat2 pun.. huhuhu... mungkin metal yg ko maksud kan tuh metal yg tak berat kot... mcm sound Abu May tuh.. metal gak.. tapi tak berat pun.... tapi sound mcm die mmg sng nak dpt kalau pakai single... tapi tak gemok la kalau pakai single...camne nak main death metal..
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Hahaha.. tak pasal2 abu may terbabit..
Evenfall, aku pernah pakai dulu pickup hotrails ni. Pickup ni outputnya tinggi sampai 20++, dan dia mmg dah cut treble dan boost mid.. Mungkin paling metal strat boleh dpt dengan pickup ni. Cuma nak compare dgn humbucker punya big sound mmg masih 3 setengah tiang la.. Tapi apa2 pun, eksperiment la.. create something different. Kalau tak dapat Death Metal, Death Aluminium pun jadi la.. tak pun Faint Metal.
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Haha... tul tuh... kurang kan metal2 nih... susah nanti kalau dah sesat... cube la bwk2 main musik indie nih... skang nih dah berleluase dah muzik nih... ia tak memerlukan sound yg berat... cukup kalau dpt seberat sound2 clasic rock...marilah kite cube... ia lebih sng dan tak payah nak buat progression byk2... dan yg lebih nyata... ia takde cite hantu, potong pale, sembelih sume tuh la.. hehe
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| evenfall |
| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: |
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hehe.saya dah cuba dgn Boss MT-2, sound ok.tp tak boleh tinggi sgt gain-nya.nanti bunyi yg keluar kurang sedap.mungkin nak kena cuba dgn Metal Muff pulak kot.
saya tak lah main metal sgt, lagu2 yg tak metal pun saya main.tapi kadang2 nak juga main Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, Dark Tranqullity etc.
Indie?Bukan semua org yg pakai Strat main Indie, bro...Dave Murray pun pakai Strat, tak main Indie pun... 
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Tul tuh.. jadi kenela pakai Strat yg Humbucker.. kalau single kene la ++ mcm preamp la, FX la.. EQ la.. ape2 yg patut la.. kalau tak pun, ko terus berjinak ke blues... hehe menarik tuh blues...
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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bukan ke hotrail tu adalah humbucker yg terperangkap saiz single coil?
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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memang boleh main music berat... bleh kuar sound berat...
tapi sound berat dier takkan same ngan gitar len gitar2 len...
it has it's own identity...
terpulang samada korang bleh terima sound die... 
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| Kozam |
| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| jibraun wrote: | Waah.. terrer member so setting...Aku tak penah2 dpt pakai single coil bleh dpt sound berat...aku pakai gitar Strats Cap Ayam S S S (Fender Texas) + MXR 6 Equ + Hughes Kettner Blue Edit + Metal Zone, Tak berat2 pun.. huhuhu... mungkin metal yg ko maksud kan tuh metal yg tak berat kot... mcm sound Abu May tuh.. metal gak.. tapi tak berat pun.... tapi sound mcm die mmg sng nak dpt kalau pakai single... tapi tak gemok la kalau pakai single...camne nak main death metal..
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tak tau la kalau ko tuju kat aku..tp kat atas tu aku ckp sound metal ala2 sepultura...bkn abu may...hehehe..aku pun x tau mcm mana dia setting..sebab aku pegi studio dia dah setting...aku main separuh jln jer...aku pun pelik gak camner squier stock dpt sound gitu...
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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mmg boleh dapat sund berat.
Yang membezakan single coil dgn humbucker ialah frequency response dan output level. So adjust aje frequency tu ala-ala mcm humbucker punya frequecy response dan output. Bila boost level dan certain frequency, mungkin dpt masalah baru iaitu noise.
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| evenfall |
| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jibraun wrote: | | Tul tuh.. jadi kenela pakai Strat yg Humbucker.. kalau single kene la ++ mcm preamp la, FX la.. EQ la.. ape2 yg patut la.. kalau tak pun, ko terus berjinak ke blues... hehe menarik tuh blues... |
blues?boleh aje main blues....kalau abg jibraun nak ajar saya la......
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Huhuhu... aku mane tau ape itu blues.. aku dengar je la.. camne nak ajar...
Blues2 nih ko kene tanye Ery...
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