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| ouraida |
 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: the best distortion pedal |
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halo guys!aku teringin sgt cr distortion yang bleh main dengan aku pnya 15watt ibanez tone blaster.amp aku ni ada overdrive channel tp xda footswitch jack..so aku mau cr distortion pdl that I can play lead right away on the clean channel.
sblm ni aku ada ds-2 tp aku xble main lead dgn pdl 2..even ds-1 pn xble(I wonder how Joe Satriani use it as his main lead sound few years ago)..so stkt ni overdrive channel d amp aku 2 la the best distortion for me..aku ada bli line6 am4 dr gapnap..ckup hi gain tp bkn quality yg aku mau especially when I turn my volume down(on guitar)..aku mau distortion yg ckup hi gain spy note yg aku main x putus2(aku beginner lg la  ) tp can cleans up nicely..
sori klu bhs ku ni susa kmu mau phm but I really hope you guys can understand so that you all can help la 
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| spiderfingers |
| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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You need an overdrive pedal, not distortion la beb.
Maybe can check out boss Dynadrive? |
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| mozo |
| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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boss blues driver...
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| ouraida |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| spiderfingers wrote: | | You need an overdrive pedal, not distortion la beb. |
yakah?for example, Paul Gilbert use a single channel combo amp(vintage modern) so his main lead sound comes from the pedal he use..i want that kind of pedal which I can play aggresive and melodic lick with sustain..
| Quote: | boss blues driver...
great sound |
i'm still not convinced about using overdrive bro but thanx for the suggestion 
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| ddos411 |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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ayoo its very subjective la. depends on your budget.
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| T|melessness |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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not overdrive i must say.. ko dah mention mau yg high gain pedals.. go for distortions..lagi pun ko kata amp ko dah ade channel overdrive.. then what for nak beli overdrive lagi?
byk pedals distortion yg best.. tapi harga nye pun best..
antara pedal distortion yg best di telinga aku..
1- krank maximus distortion = RM600 lebih
2- digitech hardwire tl2 = RM485
cek kat youtube both..
byk lagi yg best.. boss mt2 tuh dah memadai kalo pandai setting.
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| Kozam |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ouraida wrote: | | spiderfingers wrote: | | You need an overdrive pedal, not distortion la beb. |
yakah?for example, Paul Gilbert use a single channel combo amp(vintage modern) so his main lead sound comes from the pedal he use..i want that kind of pedal which I can play aggresive and melodic lick with sustain..
| Quote: | boss blues driver...
great sound |
i'm still not convinced about using overdrive bro but thanx for the suggestion |
Apa yang dimaksudkan adalah menggunakan konsep boosting pada dirty channel amp..artis luar negara/gitaris handalan byk gunakan konsep ni..cara nyer.ialah..ko gunakan overdrive pedal depan dirty channel amp..insyaallah sustain yang amat hebat ko boleh dapat...
kalau ko nak gunakan distortion sahaja pada clean channel amp..maka cari pedal yang EQ dia boleh cut through...contoh yang terbaik skang mcm Digitech Valve distortion...DS-1 yg dah di mod pun sedap jugak untuk dpt sustain...
satu lagi..sustain yang transparent..sebenarnyer dtg dari gitar anda..semakin baik resonan gitar.maka semakin baik sustain yg keluar..Pikap jugak memainkan peranan penting dlm sustain..kalau hanya mengharapkan sustain dr high gain distortion lama kelamaan telinga anda akan mengalami satu sindrom yang dinamakan deaftone..sindrom ni aku dah kena dan memang sukar di ubati...
Selamat mencuba...
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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pada gua,
- ada 3 pekara la yg penting before u gonna carik the rigt distort.
1. guitar la.
- setup betul betul.
2. cara u main laaa.
- teknik laaa.
- sustain dengan vibrato baru panjang laaa.
- somthing camtu.
- cara u petik, mute dan sebagainya.
3. Amp.
- Sorry la gua bukan memperkecilkan amp kecik tone blaster 15 watt.
- Susah nak dapat sound yg betul betul baik.
- sebab speaker kecik dah tentu tak bleh nak respone kepada bass and low mid sangat.
- Watt kecik dah tentu headroom kecik.
- mean bila kita push to much gain bunyi dah jadi terlalu compress macam white noise.
- belom ceta waima pun pedal dah boleh bagi sound giler ganas, tapi speaker nyer tak boleh nak keluarkan bunyi sebetulnya, itu pun satu ceta ngarut juga.
- 12 inchi at least laaa, for rock tune.
Ceta pasal pedal ne mana pernah ada yg terbaik dikalangan terbaik.
- beli klone centuar rega rm2K belom tentu sesuai dengan music kita.
- Cuma yg penting kita kena faham what kind of distort kita nak pakai.
- what pedal sound fuzz, mana bunyi over drive dan mana bunyi distort and mana just clean boost.
- Term of distort pedal pun dah macam macam bunyi dia.
- Ada distort yg smooth, ada yg banyak kasar skit, ada yg bass besar, ada yg tarak bass, ada mid banyak ada mid scoop.
- Tapi what ever distort u pakai, the final tone still the amp.
- So without a target amp, tak payah la nak carik pedal itu dan ini, serius buat pening.
- Tapi pada gua, pakai la pedal distortion yg basic circuit, macam DS-1, mxr dis+, or rat or muff.
- and just cuba try carik aper yg ia boleh buat kepada amp anda.
- kalo anda tahu, aper yg ia boleh buat and aper yg ia tak boleh buat, itu dah kira pengalaman berharga.
- kita akan dapat more idea bila jumpa amp lagi grand.
- kita letak DS-1 ker ss amp vs tube amp pun dah jadi 2 tone yg jauh bezanya. So mana mungkin aku nak judge the DS-1 hanya dengan amp yg tak mungkin boleh keluarkan kelebihan DS-1.
- guitar, pedal or amp pun ada yg dibuat utk genre music, ada utk blues, ada utk metal dan sebagaunya.
- sometime a simple dst pedal maybe work for ur, tapi tak bole jalan utk orang lain.
- sebab lain orang tak sama la amp, guitar, music dan cara mainnya.
kalo vai dan satriani ne.
- mana mungkin boleh dikejar gear diorang.
- dia sorang main, tapi yg control dia punya peralatan dan geget, kita ceta satu team dengan 10 orang.
- dari satu lagu diorang boleh run from defferent channel amp, dan defferent amp or mix amp.
- boleh ka kita nak simulate gi 15watt amp.
- tapi kalo u study amacam teknik diorang main, even dengan 15watt tu u dah boleh sound ala ala diorang.
Don get me wrong yaaa.
- correct me am i wrong.
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| gearmetalhead |
| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| T|melessness |
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| Quote: | | - Sorry la gua bukan memperkecilkan amp kecik tone blaster 15 watt. - Susah nak dapat sound yg betul betul baik. |
kena tuka la valvestate 15 watt aku?. hehehe..
DD3 hari tuh aku belum try lagi.. cuti raya nih aku xplore habis habisan..
Tq bro..
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| mozo |
| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| gearmetalhead wrote: | | aku suka tul bile ultraman post reply..enlightening n sangat thoughtful,thoughts yang di komen telah difikirkan dahulu dengan baik and put together in the best way possible..thumbs up bro ultra.. |
betul 2.. ilmu yang x dpt dibeli walaupun duit berjuta.. 
kalau amp dh dasyat, x yh pedal pown boleh dpt tone yg kite cari..
tp amp pown yg kene pilih ngan betul, different amp different tone..
guitar ni adalah bende yg paling rumit dlm dunia ni. every person have a different criteria. x boleh ikot.... |
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| ouraida |
| Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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thanx for all the replies guys!!
| Quote: | | Sorry la gua bukan memperkecilkan amp kecik tone blaster 15 watt. |
ni ayat intro mau hina amp aku la ni.. 
| Quote: | | - boleh ka kita nak simulate gi 15watt amp. |
hncurny hati ku..
| Quote: | | - Watt kecik dah tentu headroom kecik. |
I've no idea what headroom is???(phm2la..beginner kn)
anyway,TQ ultraman cosmo appreciate penerangan ko yg pjg lebar 2..
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: so |
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so, dah lbh sbln nih,
what is the result?
dah tkr amp ker?
or dah jmp the best dist?
head room is=
cnth
1.motor honda ex 5 max speed 110km/jam
kita naik selaju 110km/jam kat highway yg limit 110 km/jam
So, dah xd headroom dah
2. motor kawasaki Ninja 750 max speed 285 km/jam
kita jln kat higway selaju 110km/jam kat highway yg limit 110 km/jam
So, headroom dia msh byk ar,
agak2 ada bmw nk ptg, pulas jer ar smpai max?
ader brn?
kata kn bro oura guna amp yg sm cam gtrs handalan,
sound engneer lbh 10 org, dah tu bro plak lbh pandai main gtr dr Vai
agak2 vai nak main sound sdp jer, bro main lah yg lg sdp dr vai
dah tu bro plak lbh terkenal dr vai, so headroom vai plak jd kck
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: Re: so |
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| boyroy wrote: | so, dah lbh sbln nih,
what is the result?
dah tkr amp ker?
or dah jmp the best dist?
head room is=
cnth
1.motor honda ex 5 max speed 110km/jam
kita naik selaju 110km/jam kat highway yg limit 110 km/jam
So, dah xd headroom dah
2. motor kawasaki Ninja 750 max speed 285 km/jam
kita jln kat higway selaju 110km/jam kat highway yg limit 110 km/jam
So, headroom dia msh byk ar,
agak2 ada bmw nk ptg, pulas jer ar smpai max?
ader brn?
kata kn bro oura guna amp yg sm cam gtrs handalan,
sound engneer lbh 10 org, dah tu bro plak lbh pandai main gtr dr Vai
agak2 vai nak main sound sdp jer, bro main lah yg lg sdp dr vai
dah tu bro plak lbh terkenal dr vai, so headroom vai plak jd kck
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