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| AMELLICA |
 Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: BRIDGE BOLEH EFFECT PADA SOUND?? |
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salam semua warga i bands.sudah lama rasanya saya tidak mengutarakan soalan.saya nak tanya betul ke sesuatu bridge tu boleh beri kesan pada sound guitar tu sendiri.sebagai contoh ada yang mengatakan tune o matic bridge yang biasa terdapat pada gibson boleh menghasilkan sound yang lebih berat? bagaimana pula dengan tremolo bridge biasa, fr bridge & fixed bridge??
so saya nk minta pendapat daripada bro@otai2 i bands bridge apa yang sesuai untuk bermain sound yang berat.untuk pengetahuan saya mengunakan ibanez rgr321ex yang mempunyai fixed bridge.
soalan ke2 apa pendapat bro@otai2 dengan kort model kx5 fr? maksud saya dari segi quality, harga, kesesuaian bermain sound berat, flexibality..t.kasih..
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| eniQma |
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a'ah la...bro zid...org kata fixed bridge nih lg punching sustain nyer...
bab sound berat tu kena tgk tone yg kuar la kot...
agaknye la...........
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| boyroy |
| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: sound |
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kalo ikut title thread nih, bg aku mmg ader
bridge ader efect pd sound,
contoh:
kalo saper2 ader strat vintage bridge style,
cuba 2 perkara
1. setting bridge rapat pd body
2. setting bridge floating/ space lbh krg 1~2mm dr body
Cuba dgr beza sound dia:
Ini menggambarkan sdkt perbezaan pd bridge/ bridge yg berbeza
ada efect pd sound
Cuba byg kn:
1. floydrose yg mn spring melayan getaran string
2. fix bridge pny tone body
3. ton o matic create tone from body wood
tp kalo nk kata sound,
bkn hny bridge shj yg create the sound
byk part yg perlu di ambil kr
conth:
1. body wood
2. neck wood
3. material fret wire
4. Pick up
5. neck joint contruction- set neck, bolt on, neck through body
6. string- gauge, brand
7. fretboard wood
8. bridge type
9. capacitor
10. dan mcm2 lg, x lrt nk type
itu pown bg telinga yg peka bley beza kan sound
Lain amp pown sound dah lain,
HHhhmmmm.... mcm2 lg nk bgtau, tp pnjg sgt kowt,
nnt bg pro lah yg smbg
hehehe 
Zasssss......................
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| oRden |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: sound |
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| boyroy wrote: | kalo ikut title thread nih, bg aku mmg ader
bridge ader efect pd sound,
contoh:
kalo saper2 ader strat vintage bridge style,
cuba 2 perkara
1. setting bridge rapat pd body
2. setting bridge floating/ space lbh krg 1~2mm dr body
Cuba dgr beza sound dia:
Ini menggambarkan sdkt perbezaan pd bridge/ bridge yg berbeza
ada efect pd sound
Cuba byg kn:
1. floydrose yg mn spring melayan getaran string
2. fix bridge pny tone body
3. ton o matic create tone from body wood
tp kalo nk kata sound,
bkn hny bridge shj yg create the sound
byk part yg perlu di ambil kr
conth:
1. body wood
2. neck wood
3. material fret wire
4. Pick up
5. neck joint contruction- set neck, bolt on, neck through body
6. string- gauge, brand
7. fretboard wood
8. bridge type
9. capacitor
10. dan mcm2 lg, x lrt nk type
itu pown bg telinga yg peka bley beza kan sound
Lain amp pown sound dah lain,
HHhhmmmm.... mcm2 lg nk bgtau, tp pnjg sgt kowt,
nnt bg pro lah yg smbg
hehehe
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last2 bagi yang teramat peka telinga diorang, guna cat lain2 pun leh efek kat sound (nitro vs poly)..
full painting vs painting x complete pun ada beza kat sustain n sound (full painting=full paintingla, painting x complete cam xd cat kat area under pickguard n bawah bridge, area neck heel n pocket etc)
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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so kalau ada dent ke cat terkopek ke... pon effect tone jugak la kalo mcm tu ye?huhuhu
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| jibraun |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| eniQma wrote: | | so kalau ada dent ke cat terkopek ke... pon effect tone jugak la kalo mcm tu ye?huhuhu |
Boleh jadi gak.. sebab gitar2 yg Distress color ade beza ngan yg solid color....walaupun same design + brg2 + kayu kayan + pikap...
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| poundcake |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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what a good topic, tapi kalau detail sangat pening kaplo...
secara general, mmg bridge ada efek pada sustain gitar.. yg mana fixed bridge (tune-o-matic, gibraltar etc..) lebih sustain, bright berbanding dengan floating bridge (floyd rose, kahler floating etc..)
tone yang berat? gunakan heavy gauge, drop tune .. lagi senang nak dapat bottom daripada method lain... pastu gunakan plectrum tebal..
2 sen sahaja... 
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| jibraun wrote: | | eniQma wrote: | | so kalau ada dent ke cat terkopek ke... pon effect tone jugak la kalo mcm tu ye?huhuhu |
Boleh jadi gak.. sebab gitar2 yg Distress color ade beza ngan yg solid color....walaupun same design + brg2 + kayu kayan + pikap... |
so...ada beza la kan...hmm utk sound berat..mcm mr poundcake pakai gauge besar ngan pick tebal...mmg reasonable gak...so bridge utk lebih pada sustain bukan pada tone la?kan?
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| poundcake |
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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ada gak sikit.. pada fixed bridge selalunya tone dia lebih bright... lebih treble, lebih nyaring.. berbanding pada floating...
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| jibraun |
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| poundcake wrote: | | ada gak sikit.. pada fixed bridge selalunya tone dia lebih bright... lebih treble, lebih nyaring.. berbanding pada floating... |
Owh.. aku silap la nih....aku igt Floating bleh kasi bright tone sebab die tak rapat ngan body punye tone...fix brigde yg bright upenye....
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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aku pening bace post korang...
setau aku
bright = clear (tak sama ngan treble)
Heavy = low sound
setakat aku try between fix & floating bridge...
fix bridge
have clear notation, sustain and stable vibration
In Heavy tone it will sounds more clear and harder to control as it will be too clean
stable sustain will shows how accurate your tuning and notes played...
mid & treble tone has a major cut-through at any time...
Floating
the notation & tone seems not clear and you cant really hear the accuracy..
Heavy tone will sound big..
the mid & treble will sounds a bit fat...
the sustain is just enough & the string vibration not as much as fix bridge..
overall sound will not be clear as fix bridge & will sound muddy most of the time...
the good things about it, you would be happy to shred with it and not no worry if your playing is sloppy.. LOL.. (no offend)...
So in my opinion...
each bridge could produce heavy or bright tone, but it produce different sounding...
you should also respect those fix bridge players... coz its harder to play haha
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| AMELLICA |
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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tq tq! pada pendapat kalian.saya hargai.  so lepas ni saya nk kena try la main semua brigde. tapi betul ke floating bridge banyak masalah daripada fixed bridge? 
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| oRden |
| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| AMELLICA wrote: | | tq tq! pada pendapat kalian.saya hargai. so lepas ni saya nk kena try la main semua brigde. tapi betul ke floating bridge banyak masalah daripada fixed bridge? |
dia bkan byk masalah, cuma kena byk bersabar berbanding ngan fixed bridge. lgi2 time tukar string/tune..
lebih beriman la klu tukar floating nih 
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