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afiqcasablanca
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: problem bending kt certain2 fret Reply with quote



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sye bdk bru blaja..mnx tlg ajarkn Smile bole bg tips tak kpd otai2 gitaris kt sni??sbb gitar sy kt certain2 fret klu nk bending kdg2 sentuh tali atas..adekah di sebabkn bridge setting??atau tali gitar tu sndri..sy pkai gauge yg light je 009..klu bole nk jgk men bending2 cm dlm video ni Very Happy..+gitar sy pkai skrg les paul 100 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnt2k7JMPs&feature=channel
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er... tersentuh tali atas camne tu?
cube lukis sket... tak paham la..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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cmne nk ckp eh..bila bend upward(certain fret) jari sentuh tali yg satu lg..ade phm??Very Happy..kiranya on dat bending time hit 2 tali la..bkn satu spt yg dimahukn
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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afiqcasablanca wrote:
cmne nk ckp eh..bila bend upward(certain fret) jari sentuh tali yg satu lg..ade phm??Very Happy..kiranya on dat bending time hit 2 tali la..bkn satu spt yg dimahukn


maaf kalo aku yg salah phm explanation ko...bending kene tali atas ke??aku rasa bending mmg la kita sentuh tali yg lain..lagi tinggi kita push maybe 2 or 3 tali yg kita touch...but tali yg kita PICK just 1 aje....erm...aku salah phm ke??

bg aku kalo nak bending first make sure jgn sumbang....dptkan gripping yg baik....then try dptkan sound semitone note yg kita nak bending....cth: kita nak bunyi C#(x bending).so kita try bending kat not C tp dptkan bunyi C#...adui..aku pon pening nak explain..haha.....

BTW, pada aku time kita bending kekadang memang la kita tersentuh tali atas.lagi2 kalo kita bend and hold tali tue....entah la...tue yg aku rasa la...kalo salah tolong sape2 betulkan...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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itu sebab fret kau tak cukup lebar...cuba custom pakai 7 string nye fret.. sure tak kena..

tapi its normal to bend sampai kene tali atas...but the important is which note that u picking... macam apa yg wiwit kata kan...

make sure grip, jgn push ur finger but twist ur wrist.. kalau kau guna strength jari utk bending, its sometime jari kau terlucut dari string...so make sure finger ada grip strength dan twist ur wrist utk bend..

practice make perfect..

p/s: tanak sentuh tali atas, bend tali paling atas hahaha atau kau potong je string atas tuh Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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btl la tu wiwit,
biasanya kta bending C tuk smpa ke note D kowt,
pas tu vibrate plak jgn smpai lari dr note D plak kan
casablanca tu br bljr,
jd dia hrp, bl bending tu x snth tali ats trs bley dpt not yg dia nak

hmmm...
aku rs cam ni..
ko kna bljr mute plak,
yg mn tl yg ats tu kna pasti kn tiada bnyi yg terrhsl walopn tersnth ms bending,
cara ny ko kn snth ngan hjg jr ke, tpk tgn knn ke,
supaya tiada bnyi yg x dkhndaki trhsl,
tu sume fenomena2 guitaris yg rjn mula bljr tur,
bgs2, kalo ko da tnm dlm otk tuk mute sound yg x d kehendaki,
secara automatic tgn kt leh wat teknik2 mute,
kalo bljr lg bgs ar
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thnx2...mmg bru blaja pn ngn gita lektrik ni Very Happy..klu gita akustik tak men bending sgt n x hold bending..haha..psl tak sentuh tali atas tu mmg sentuh tp kdg2 bunyi tali yg terkene tu kua skli..i guess its about how ur mute the sound rite??btw thnx a lot!! Smile
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afiqcasablanca wrote:
thnx2...mmg bru blaja pn ngn gita lektrik ni Very Happy..klu gita akustik tak men bending sgt n x hold bending..haha..psl tak sentuh tali atas tu mmg sentuh tp kdg2 bunyi tali yg terkene tu kua skli..i guess its about how ur mute the sound rite??btw thnx a lot!! Smile


memang camtu ar beza gtr akustik ngan gtr letrik ni
lg2 bl guna drive atau distortion
kt sini la bz org main clean atau kotor
kalo teknik mute x dpt nk kuasai lg, maka permainan kita akn kotor
bunyi lain yg kt nak, lain plak yg kta dgr, btl x? kan? kan

hehehee...

aku ckp pndai, buat sndr xtaw, huhuhuhu
haram 1 solo pn xtaw main
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Hi Afiq,

Ini ada video tentang masalah terkena tali atas ketika bending. Video ni sangat bagus untuk beginner dan aku juga belajar dari video ni masa mula main guitar beberapa tahun yang lepas (beli cd kat Pertama kompleks).

Sila fahamkan dulu kemudian cuba apply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c9UqbkjC6k


Lepas dah faham, boleh la ikut latihan bending ni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1y3E8J2kOw

buat la berpuluh2 kali sampai jari jadi kuat, tak sumbang dan dengan tempo yang betul.

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heheheh aku cam ada bende tak baik nak tulis...tapi hahahah abaikan..


syabas...afiq..apa yg boyroy kata kan itu benar sekali.. pendekatan yg sgt dekat. tapi bending sampai 2 3 tali la baru syok...baru bluesssss!~ hgahahaha baru rock and roll heheh baru hammond jr heheh

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Jiro wrote:
heheheh aku cam ada bende tak baik nak tulis...tapi hahahah abaikan..


syabas...afiq..apa yg boyroy kata kan itu benar sekali.. pendekatan yg sgt dekat. tapi bending sampai 2 3 tali la baru syok...baru bluesssss!~ hgahahaha baru rock and roll heheh baru hammond jr heheh

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afiqcasablanca wrote:
cmne nk ckp eh..bila bend upward(certain fret) jari sentuh tali yg satu lg..ade phm??Very Happy..kiranya on dat bending time hit 2 tali la..bkn satu spt yg dimahukn

- rasanya bila bend string 2 contohnya.
- string 3 akan terkepit dibawah jari dan berlaga dengan string 2 tadi.
- hasilnya bendeng string 2 tadi jadi hampesss

Pada gua
1. teknik bending la, kita kena elakan string lain terkepit dibawah jari bersama dengan string yg kita nak bending.
2. action string guitar terlalu rendah.
- nenyebab string bersebelahan senang terkepit dibawah jari.
- kaki bending semua biasa pakai action string 2mm.

Teknik yg betul bending,
- string bersebelahan takkan terkepit dibawah jari.
- nak tekan string pun tak boleh hujung sangat utk bending string.

ne ada sedikit tip.
- kata lah anda bending dengan jari cincin.
- Cara yg betul adalah jari jari lain juga kena support dan bantu.
- jari tunjuk + jari hantu + jari cincin.
- So lebihkan sedikit jari hantu supaya string bersebelahan kena tolak oleh jari hantu tersebut.
- dengan keadah ne, string besebelahan tak sempat nak masuk celah bawah jari cincin.
- Pantang larang nya hanya "Jangan pandang belakang".
- hahahahhahahahahha
- teknik dia, bending dengan jari cincin tapi tolak string bersebelahan dengan jari hantu.
- entah aku pun tak tau nama teknik ne, just terjumpa dengan sendirinya.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ultraman_cosmo wrote:

- rasanya bila bend string 2 contohnya.
- string 3 akan terkepit dibawah jari dan berlaga dengan string 2 tadi.
- hasilnya bendeng string 2 tadi jadi hampesss

Pada gua
1. teknik bending la, kita kena elakan string lain terkepit dibawah jari bersama dengan string yg kita nak bending.
2. action string guitar terlalu rendah.
- nenyebab string bersebelahan senang terkepit dibawah jari.
- kaki bending semua biasa pakai action string 2mm.

Teknik yg betul bending,
- string bersebelahan takkan terkepit dibawah jari.
- nak tekan string pun tak boleh hujung sangat utk bending string.

ne ada sedikit tip.
- kata lah anda bending dengan jari cincin.
- Cara yg betul adalah jari jari lain juga kena support dan bantu.
- jari tunjuk + jari hantu + jari cincin.
- So lebihkan sedikit jari hantu supaya string bersebelahan kena tolak oleh jari hantu tersebut.
- dengan keadah ne, string besebelahan tak sempat nak masuk celah bawah jari cincin.
- Pantang larang nya hanya "Jangan pandang belakang".
- hahahahhahahahahha
- teknik dia, bending dengan jari cincin tapi tolak string bersebelahan dengan jari hantu.
- entah aku pun tak tau nama teknik ne, just terjumpa dengan sendirinya.



ok bro..ade btol gak tu..sbb ble try setup gita tu rendah(les paul 100) bila bending mmg slalu la sentuh tali len..so caranya mmg kne bg action tggi(tak tau la bpe mm) tp x syok la plak..any possible nk bg action tu rendah at the same time bole bending dgn sng ati Smile..sbb tgk2 kt utube yg pro2 tu gita diorg action cm rndh nk bending pn cm sng..haha

p/s ade wt research sket pasal org yg servis guitar epiphone sg nye model bg action rndh 1mm kt 12th fret..tp xtau la klu die tak men bending Very Happy
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tgk guitar gak.. alang alang kau scalop je LP 100 ko tuh hehehehe

LP selalu nye action tinggi lebih baik utk high sustain, good bending and finger flexi....tapi kalau kau jenis kaki main tipu macam pakai action rendah utk senang shredding, itu la part negative dia, bending hampeh skit, tone agak tak best ecspecially main chords, sustain kurang and sometimes dead note.

mmg kita tgk kat video nampak cam pro tuh pakai action rendah je...cuba kau tgk slash nye LP.. Smile tak obvious sgt rendah dia.. Smile tapi kalau kau still nak rendah, cuba tukar fretwire to jumbo size Smile insyallah Very Happy
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