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GryMlock
PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Analog summing. perlu or tak perlu? Reply with quote



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need some opinions.

aku google2, some say there'll be significant difference kalau guna analog summing unit, but there's also some yang berpendapat the difference is not that much either.

what say you guys here? ada experience using one?
is it worth investing?

one of the unit is:



http://www.dangerousmusic.com/dbox.html
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Yes. But only if the rest of the signal chain is up to the mark.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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alrite got it!

thanks man.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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dude, article below :

http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_sum_tracks/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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malas nye nak baca.. hehe Laughing

so ajeep this thing being used while post production or pre? or during the mix
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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bro!

listen to these samples...if YOU like it, then YOU like it...

http://www.vintageking.com/site/files/hear_the_gear/summing_mixers/dangerous_2bus.html

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Eternal,

the consultant yg suggest this unit say that from the interface (my case it's m-audio profire 2626) it'll be routed out masuk the summing unit and then output from the summing (stereo) akan go back to the interface input.

He mentioned bout the sound quality will be better than digital mixdown that we normally do.

half way thru the explanation aku sudah lost with all the alien vocabulary Laughing

Zham,

downloading the files now. thanks for the link!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aku baca jer sebenarya... saje je nak suruh ko terang untuk orang lain sekali...

So basically this method bole kasi achieve analog tone & feel even using digital way of mixdown... mcm reamp method la...

so ko gune analog ker digital untuk connect ke device ni?
tube punye takde ker?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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at the moment aku lom beli pun lagi. the regional supplier is in indonesia. kena discuss ngan engineers aku dulu ah to see what they think. But honestly most studio engineers aku tanya, are in favour of having the summing unit.

anyway, according to the guy, it'll be 8 channels analog out from the profire and into the d-box.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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sounds "better"??? totally subjective...and highly debatable

ITB...OTB and back again to ITB...excellent AD/DA converters must be in play here...

before commiting to such an expensive unit, you should experiment with any analog mixers or gear you have lying around...applying the same recording chain the consultant mentioned.

Cheap Behringer or Mackie mixers will even do the job.... I know the hardware components can't be matched with the Dangerous units...testing2 je. See if you hear any difference...kalau rajin you upload la nanti...with and without summing with your analog mixer...

IMHO, summing makes sense on individual tracks...

good luck BOTAK!

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encik ajeepbot... Very Happy

aku tgk manual... input die ade few channel jer... 2 channel analog, 1 daw, 1 CD... mane nak cucuk 8 input tu?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pakai untuk master bus jer nih..

apapun, checkout nebula3
http://www.acustica-audio.com/

Aku nak sangat beli benda ni, tapi interface dia buruk gila. haha

Comparison
ITB - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285689/Forum/OlaTrack-ITB.mp3
Nebula - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285689/Forum/OlaTrack-Nebula.mp3

good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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no idea. mamat tu ckp bleh 8 input to the DBOX.
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huzai. aku suka design tu. ala2 mcm kereta lama.
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