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deadzid
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Soalan pasal pickups lagi...? Reply with quote

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aku ade soalan pasal pickups ni...

apakah ukuran yg menentukan output bg sesuatu pickup?
mcm kat website duncan ade mention DC Resistance...
adakah lebih tinggi DC = lebih tinggi output?

tapi kengkadang confius...
contoh:

George Lynch Screamin' Demon - high output, tapi DC = 10k je
Original Parallel Axis - moderate output, tapi DC = 15.7k

so... mcm mana tu?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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senang citer, aku nak order set humbucker pickups...
pastu ade la beberapa pasang yg aku dah shortlisted...
tak byk info (biasa la cap ayam) tapi dia cuma state:

  1. Pickup set brand "A" : 8.8k
  2. Pickup set brand "B" : 9.5k
  3. Pickup set brand "C" : 13.3k


dulu aku pernah try Ibanez V8 - aku tak suka sbb tak cukup gain..
pastu aku punya strat pakai duncan Hot Rail - melampau pulak gain dia!
clean sound pon mcm ade distorted skit...
so aku nak something in between Ibanez V8 - Duncan Hot Rails...

mcm stock pickup BC Rich tu aku suka...
tak terlalu hi-gain, tapi masih boleh buat sound "jerit" tu...
err paham tak?

so brapa DC resistance yg sesuai utk taste aku yg ngade2 ni??
heheheh...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yo zid,

guitar of choice penting. les paul type atau strat, short atau standard scale, maple neck atau rosewood, ash body atau basswood, floyd atau fixed.

humbuckers elok 8 to 12.. singing tones. ko krank half pedal (overdrive like dod 250, boss sd1 atau tube screamer) half amp (JMP gain ka camtu..) kena guna AB switch kerana clean amp mesti lain amp la..

14 to 16.. aku masih boleh accept lagi.. above tu dah monster.. that means, tak payah pedal pon JMP tu dah ganas.. (like X2N)

rails humbuckers ketat sikit tapi selainnya almost sama character dgn standard humbucker due to side to side flux concept, single vertical humbuckers no noise tapi tak dapat pure single sound, masih ada treble cut walaupon flux vertical

ko bole jinak dgn guna volume. remember, pots pon penting, value bole adjust sumbat atau teroverflow. humbuckers dah hilang treble due to cancellation. that means pedal setting must be paired with the pickups.

resistance

magnets type
alnico 1 to 5 pon dah banyak beza vs ceramic
alnico knowned for it good respond, in other words, low pull. while ceramic lebih mantap, tegap dan ketat.

coils round pon ada banyak beza, size diameter, material, parafin atau waxed. kalo enameled coated vs fomvar..

most new coils are enameled coated, while vintage guna fomvar.. firm dgn loose..

AND ALSO

pickups adjustments mesti proper.. kalo tak overtone and kill your acoustic sustain. means height mesti optimum.

for example,

tele rosewood humbucker sumbat atau gelap, ko tukar vol and tone pot 1meg, cap 223 pio atau ceramic sudah bole napas.. but make sure guitar pickups must be ok ya.. kalo maple, lagi hensem. guna silver wires ya.

jadi dalam case ko, jangan angkat lebih output sangat, nanti clean pluck ko crackle.. aku suggest somewhere in between 14 to 18 you can still decide to play direct or using pedals to boost and get what you want..

woof!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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alamak.. terlampau teknikal nya penerangan ni...
hahah anyway thanx bro... ye la aku pun sengal..
tak bgtau spec gitar aku, ye tak?

so, in the end ko suggest 14k - 18k... right?
tapi aku tgk kat duncan tone chart, Hot Rails = 16k
aku tanak la high gain melampau mcm hot rails tu...
clean sound pun ade kacau...

aku nak less output dari hot rails,
tapi lebih tinggi dari ibanez v8...
something like BC Rich BDSM humbuckers...

kenapa aku tak beli je pickup BC Rich?
haa ni satu lagi demand aku yg ngade2... heheh
kriteria utama yg aku carik utk pilih pickup ialah RUPA!
hahahahah mcm sial tak?

aku nak kaler hitam yg covered punya..
either like this or this... or just the regular EMG style...
aku punya taste (in terms of tone) tak kisah sgt...
yg penting RUPA dan OUTPUT.. (kot)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oo lupa lagi nak mention...
humbuckers tu nak fit kat les paul...
epiphone jek... Les Paul Standard
(segan nak mention sbnrnya,
sbb tak leh celen izzi punya Agile... Embarassed )

spec dia ada kat sini
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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apsal tak angkut emg terus?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oo lupa nak mention 1 lagi kriteria...
aku tak suka pakai bateri... prefer PASSIVE only!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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deadzid wrote:
oo lupa lagi nak mention...
humbuckers tu nak fit kat les paul...
epiphone jek... Les Paul Standard
(segan nak mention sbnrnya,
sbb tak leh celen izzi punya Agile... Embarassed )

spec dia ada kat sini


siot je.. Epiphone kalau dpt yg Korea ok la..

Sorry Zid, aku tak dpt menyumbang kat soalan ko ni. Aku pun still tak sure pasal Henries dan DC resistence dan tak pulak aku rajin nak membaca pasal ni kat google.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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deadzid wrote:
alamak.. terlampau teknikal nya penerangan ni...
hahah anyway thanx bro... ye la aku pun sengal..
tak bgtau spec gitar aku, ye tak?

so, in the end ko suggest 14k - 18k... right?
tapi aku tgk kat duncan tone chart, Hot Rails = 16k
aku tanak la high gain melampau mcm hot rails tu...
clean sound pun ade kacau...

aku nak less output dari hot rails,
tapi lebih tinggi dari ibanez v8...
something like BC Rich BDSM humbuckers...

kenapa aku tak beli je pickup BC Rich?
haa ni satu lagi demand aku yg ngade2... heheh
kriteria utama yg aku carik utk pilih pickup ialah RUPA!
hahahahah mcm sial tak?

aku nak kaler hitam yg covered punya..
either like this or this... or just the regular EMG style...
aku punya taste (in terms of tone) tak kisah sgt...
yg penting RUPA dan OUTPUT.. (kot)


8 to 12... try check slider pickups.. best aussie p/ups..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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kalau nak option murah, try tgk GFS pickup http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Guitar-Pickups_c_7.html
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IZZI wrote:
kalau nak option murah, try tgk GFS pickup http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Guitar-Pickups_c_7.html


weh wan

mana punya brand ni?
harga USD ke Aussie??
aku mcm minat yg ni:

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Dream-180-Vintage-Voiced-Humbucker-Black-on-Black-_c_52.html

tu cukup gain tak??
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US brand tapi buat kat Korea.

Pickup paling murah skrg sebab

1) outsource ke Korea
2) yang jual guitarfetish (GFS) sahaja mcm style computer Dell

Ni bukan high end pickup tapi berbaloi dgn apa yg dibayar (mcm Agile punya cerita jugak ni haha)

Aku tgh usya pedal Danelectro Cool Cat Overdrive.. true bypass, sound mcm syok je dan murah plak tu.. (mcm Agile jugak hahha).. cancel la beli BB preamp..
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IZZI wrote:
US brand tapi buat kat Korea.



Aku tgh usya pedal Danelectro Cool Cat Overdrive.. true bypass, sound mcm syok je dan murah plak tu.. (mcm Agile jugak hahha).. cancel la beli BB preamp..


Wan, danelectro cool cat distortion pun bagus jugak..gain pun x melampau byk,full gain baru sound mcm half ds-1 punya gain and very rensponsive to the pickup..danelectro cool cat OD ni lebih sesuai jadi booster jer kot..kalau ko nk boost tube amp baru ko mmg sesuai..aku perasan pedal cool cat ni scoop mid skit..tp treble dia x berpasir..berbaloi untuk dilaburkan, boleh lupakan dulu BB preamp ni dulu..heheh
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yo kozam,
lama hilang... last aku nampak ko jam dengan aman dekat segambut.. haha..

coolcat overdrive ke transparent overdrive?
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Eternal...

nape x tegur time tuh...cool cat OD ngan transparent tu 2-2model cool cat kan..yg aku tau tansparent OD tu copy timmy..
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