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SANGAP
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: mawar floyd berlesenku Reply with quote



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akum..aku baru je bli gitar baru..jeksen dx10d yg dilengkapi ngan licensed floyd rose.aku tak penah ade gitar yg ade menatang tu seblum ni..so aku nak tanye la skit-sbanyak.

1st skali,bleh tolong bagi step2 yg penting nak restring and tune?aku ikut suke aku je seblum ni tapi yela nak jugak tau care orang yg eksperiens buat..

2nd,die best lagi klau pakai tali tebal ke nipis?action aku low kot kalau pakai 9-42,std E pon low gile..sedap mmg sedap tapi aku kengkadang main std D dan C gak so tanak la rase cam sarang lelabah..

3rd,ajar buat harmonic scream!huehe aku try buat ikut step dimebag (rip) smacam je bunyi..nak abuse bar tu lelebih pon takut lak huehe.byk lagi kot aku nak tanye tapi cukup stakat ni dulu la ok..tengkiu
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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huahua..satu ngan 2 aku leh jawab kot

1-..ko bukak locking nut depan...kendurkan tali...bukak plet blakang tempat spring..pastu ko kedepan kan bridge tu..ganti sume tali..then screw blakang tu ko adjust kasi neutral[tengah2]...ok..now tgk tuning ape ko gune..kalau standart slalu 3 spring..kalau tali ko lagi tebal dalam 11-13 ko letak 4 atau 5..tgk jenis tuning kau..bile dah settle mende tu,ko tuning sume tali strart dari atas..bile da abes ko cek balik yg paling atas..ko tune ketat nyaring skit dari tuning yg ko nak..same ngan seterusnye..then ko cek balik yg atas nye tali..agak2 tuning die nak dekat same ko adjust pakai screw kat blakang tuh..begitu juge ngan string lain.[correct me if wrong]

2-ikot feel memasing..aku pakai 11
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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1. Aku sendiri tak suka pakai Floyd Rose sebab nak restring susah, but anyway, aku dengar orang cakap, kalau ko nak restring a Floyd Rose guitar, restring satu-satu, jangan bukak semua sekali, otherwise your intonation susah nak dapat yang betul balik.

2. String gauge ni memang ikut sedapla, kalau ko main dalam standard, 9-42 atau 10-46 memang ngam la, kalau ko nak down tune, paling kuat pun standard D la buleh. Lagi rendah daripada tu string dah tak cukup tegang. Kalau ko nak main Tuning C ke, baik ko cari tali gauge tebal sikit. Tanya Ridzi...

3. Pinch harmonics ni aku sendiri tak terer, tapi basics dia macam ni la, ko kena cari harmonic point dekat tali gitar ko tu dengan picking hand ko (bukan atas fret). Bila ko dah jumpa tu, masa ko main, right after ko pick string tu, sentuhkan sikit ibu jari ko kat harmonic point tu. Lepas tu bubuhkan vibrato secukup rasa guna fretting hand (or tremolo bar)... Aku rasa camtu la...Like everything it takes some practice, but you'll get it eventually...It took me quite some time to learn this also....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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tengkiu2..tula masalahnye,aku punye std E pon dah agak longgar klau pakai 9-42.kene tukar agak tebal lagila gamaknye.

pinch harmonics alhamdulillah dah blajo huehe.yg tak tau tu harmonic scream yg pakai natural harmonics+tremolo ala2 dimebag & satch tu.kire tips utk memontianakkan lagik harmonics die la selain prektis3,more gain dan gud pikap.spring?

so pendek kate aku mmg kene tambah spring la..spring aku ade 3 je.nak bli korang rekemen kat mane?harge die?installation?

satu lagik,ape maksud floating trem/bridge?
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SANGAP wrote:
tengkiu2..tula masalahnye,aku punye std E pon dah agak longgar klau pakai 9-42.kene tukar agak tebal lagila gamaknye.

pinch harmonics alhamdulillah dah blajo huehe.yg tak tau tu harmonic scream yg pakai natural harmonics+tremolo ala2 dimebag & satch tu.kire tips utk memontianakkan lagik harmonics die la selain prektis3,more gain dan gud pikap.spring?

so pendek kate aku mmg kene tambah spring la..spring aku ade 3 je.nak bli korang rekemen kat mane?harge die?installation?

satu lagik,ape maksud floating trem/bridge?


Aku rasa ko kena tambah banyak sikit spring kalau ko puny tali longgar. Spring murah je, aku tak sure berapa ringgit la...

Ko nak buat divebomb la ni kot... tu kena tanya tuan Doktor kita lah... aku mana tahu, aku sendiri takde gitar yang ada floating trem. Gitar aku ada 2 , satu string-thru body, satu lagi stoptail peice...dua-dua pakai tune-o-matic.

Floating trem tu maksudnya tremolo ko buleh tarik dan tekan, it goes both ways...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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oh ok..paham.ko mmg best incik scumgrief!

err segan la nak tanye tuan incik doktor tu..aku kuman die resakse huaha..

aku byk idea bertanye,so satu lg persoalan yg bermain2 di minda huehe.tuneomatic ngan floydrose ape beze die dr segi ketebalan tali & tuning yg dipakai?mane satu yg lg best pakai tali tebal,dan mane satu bester klau tuning low?tanak la jwpn ikut feel,nak yg ikut facts.aku ade tuneomatic suatu ketike dulu tapi tak sempat eksperimen byk dah hilang huhu
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SANGAP wrote:
oh ok..paham.ko mmg best incik scumgrief!

err segan la nak tanye tuan incik doktor tu..aku kuman die resakse huaha..

aku byk idea bertanye,so satu lg persoalan yg bermain2 di minda huehe.tuneomatic ngan floydrose ape beze die dr segi ketebalan tali & tuning yg dipakai?mane satu yg lg best pakai tali tebal,dan mane satu bester klau tuning low?tanak la jwpn ikut feel,nak yg ikut facts.aku ade tuneomatic suatu ketike dulu tapi tak sempat eksperimen byk dah hilang huhu


Sebenarnya, mana-mana satu tak kisah, tak kira apa-apa tuning yang ko pakai, tak kisah la bridge jenis apa yang pakai, aku tahu ko tanak dengar ikut feel, tapi itulah hakikatnya. That being said, kalau ko selalu tukar tuning gitar ko, lagi baik ko pakai fixed bridge. Kalau ko pakai floyd rose, pastu nak tukar-tukar tuning, memang sakit jiwa ko nanti...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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erk?yeke?aku bace kat website kate restring sume..but tatau r kan..lagi satu untok floyd rose liscened ni..yg terlampau ketatkan blok kat saddle tu..nanti loose cam aku,..terpakser tunggu floyd original..iskisk
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aku pakai low..sebab floys tu aku kuat main..dlu aku pakai standart main2 terkeluar tali die dari saddl..bile low takde plak die buat hal
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bleh tolong rekemen kan spring kat aku bleh??
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Masa mula2 belajar dulu aku pakai stoptail ,

tapi disebabkan tengok gitaris lain pakai floyd rose berlesen atau ori.... aku tak leh tahan,,, sakit hati siut....

so beli la guitar ngan floyd rose undelisence,

aku suka pakai tali 0.09-0.42 i think thats the perfect for me....

masalah retune jarang berlaku sebab aku memang pakai tune standard, tak de la nak main drop D ke open E ke..... kolo fine tune biasa le... in case nak cari lagu yang memerlukan detune ke apa ke, aku guna gitar lain... dulu mampu pakai 2 gitar... sekarang.... guna satu je...

cuma masa restring.... biasanya aku akan set satu hari aku buat restring. tukar tali 1 by 1, tukar satu retune, and tukar yang lain..... bila dah habis aku lock, then aku belasah tremolo tu... bagi tali tu season sikit, mesti ada tune lari sikit2,,, so aku bukak balik lock.... then retune bagi perfect... then aku lock... pas tu biasanya tune dah tak lari sangat....
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1. RESTRING : ada 2 perkara basic yg kena take account, yang pertama balance tuning. Caranya tune tali bawah sekali, kemudian atas sekali dan berselang seli sampai tali terakhir. Urutannya 1,6,2,5,3,4). Yang kedua spring adjustment, kalau floydrose terlalu menjongket, ketatkan spring lagi dan sebaliknya sampai balance. Adjust 2 mounting skru tu utk set action.
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ok2 tengkiu..yu all veli gud people aa.nantikanlah kemunculan lebih lagi soalan2 noob dr aku yeh.dah lupe ape nak tanye tadi hoho
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ok im bek with more annoying questions huehe

1-1st taim aku tuko tali harituh mmg aku bukak sume string..kmudian bridge tu die tetibe terturun sindri..yela kot dah tak tegang kan.tapi rase2 lepas pasang tali bridge tu tak menjongket mcm dulu la..kire agak low skit.tu ke yg dikatakan lari?

2-mase pasang string,aku ikut stail member aku pasang terbalik berlainan ngan fixed bridge.ball-end string kat headstock,yg the other end tu yg aku pasang kat bridge.btul ke care camtu?atau kene potong ball-end dan masuk care biase?klau kene potong,potong tahap mane?kan ade bahagian bergerigi kat ball-end tali..kene potong gak ke?

3-pasal tremolo.kene ketat2 ke?psl bile ketat aku rase bar tu die tak brape 'dalam' efek die bile aku main.bile aku loose kan skit,barula bleh tarik dan dump lebih 'mendalam'.tapi aku risau lak buat camtu nanti lari tune ke,rosak floyd system tu ke..
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btw,mmg aku suke fixed bridge..takde plan langsung nak bli gitar floyd rose tapi masalahnye bile aku test gitar tu rase cam dah berhubung (bukan hubungan sulit aa) dgn ia strait merta.kire pasal playability,pastu harge pon kire orait,duit tgh ade bantai bli je la huaha
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