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randy_rhoads
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: synchronised tremolo Reply with quote



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hah... nak mintak tlg... anyone here ada idea tak mcm mana nak naikkan bridge utk gitar yg guna synchronised tremolo. thanks.. Razz
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sebenarnya synchronised tremolo tu tremolo yg pakai kat fender guitar or copy fender.. takde experience guna tremolo ni..
tapi rasanya dah ada ideala camne nak naikkan..haha!
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haa.. jgn lupa copy dan framekan apa yg sifu browndog ni cakap.. heheh.. good tips bro!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: synchronised tremolo Reply with quote

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randy_rhoads wrote:
hah... nak mintak tlg... anyone here ada idea tak mcm mana nak naikkan bridge utk gitar yg guna synchronised tremolo. thanks.. Razz


kenaper nak naikan, geng?
atau ko nak mod supaya is floating dan boleh whammy up macam bridge ibanez gio.
action rendah sagat ker?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: thats the way, ahak2! i like it! ahak2! Reply with quote



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browndog2woof wrote:
randy_rhoads wrote:
sebenarnya synchronised tremolo tu tremolo yg pakai kat fender guitar or copy fender.. takde experience guna tremolo ni..
tapi rasanya dah ada ideala camne nak naikkan..haha!


bro,

aku ada soalan before aku jump the gun..check listing below.
reason sebab nak naikan?

1) tali dah fret out lansung
ini problem neck pocket tak match dengan guitar, kemungkinan dulu neck ni ada shim kat first 2 skru neck plate (yang jauh dgn body). selalu copy fender yang pakai parts yg depa beli from different manufacturer akan buat bergini. to solve this start by trying shim 1mm yang selebar neck pocket x 1cm, tak cukup, tambah lagi. apply concept ni.

2) tali fret out bila main dekat 12th fret and above
ini you kena tekan fret 12 dan last fret guitar tu...tengok sama ada semua frets to ada sentuh tak fret wire atau tak. kalau ada, should not be a problem, kalau ada gap yg banyak, ha ha, ini problem rising toungue. maksud nya fingerboard last few frets to higher than the rest. ini problem fingerboard. a bit chronic. to settle this ada 2 cara..
a)cara tipu -
trim down the few last fret wires supaya even. guna a straight flat file (check dgn ruler) slowly skim down the frets. bila habis, guna waterproof sand paper dan rebuff to make the fret edges smooth, sand them left to right accordingly. before doing that so, make sure you protect the finger board by putting masking tape. start with grid 1800 dan later 2000. lepastu autosol kan to tatse.
b)cara pro -
kena buka semua fretwires, radius balik accordingly, pasang fret wire. will cost you about 300 to 400. ini akan involve nut change etc. maybe more i guess! ini kerja kasi pro buat...

3) tali fret out bila bending 12th fret and above
ini problem radius. normally vintage guitar with 7.25 radius ada ini problem. ini mesti kena proper setup. ini dgn syarat neck is in good order la bro. saddles guitar tu mesti di setup according tu radius, macam curve dia jugak. guna straight guitar pick dan glide atas strings kat fret no 12, from high E to low E until they are smooth. remember, mesti ikut curve ya... applicable for all gauge of strings. (bayangkan kalau floyd...ha ha ha ...macamana nak adjust ni..when there's a will, theres a way...) step 1 pun applicable to this. (dulu aku pernah terangkan pasal axis tapi kat sales forum, lepastu aku delete)

4) saddles ko dah jam, tak boleh adjust height
tukar saddles baru dgn screws yang tinggi sikit (kalo nak jimat, beli screws aje, check samada dia inches ka atau metric) kalau boleh salvage saddles ko tu pun bagus. spray banjir dgn wd40, bagi 1 hari, lepastu bukak screw tu using micro grip spanner. kalau masih ada problem, apply heat by using lighter dan proceed. kalau tak boleh gak, beli baru je...

5) saddles dah adjust max height tapi masih rendah
check angle saddles screw tu, pakai standard setup fender, kasi tremolo float laa. loosekan tremolo springs to sampai bila ko tarik trem sentuh body tu, note akan jadi 1 step higher. kerja2 proper settings dan fine tune on other areas mesti put into consideration (kalau ko nak guitar tu in tune bila main trem, hmmmm, ni banyak kerja ni, maybe later we discuss...) dapat la ko 2mm to 3mm height. step 1 pun bole apply to support.

6) swap neck atau body bukan jenama sama (trem pun...)
ini adalah segala punca segala masalah sebab neck pocket tak sama...lain kali check dulu. semua guitar copy ada problem ni, pocket size, depth, angle, width, screws position etc.) tau pasal apa?
a) kerja cincai - buat kerja sambil makan atau sms
b) pasal angkat parts different manufacturer
c) takut kena saman....

ok bro, enough for the day. itu belom kira axis lagi tu...

woof!


Thanks bro, tips ni memang terbaik. reason nak naikkan sbb fret buzz kat fret 8 (tali 6,5,4,3,2,1) tapi paling teruk kat tali 4, kalo tgh running solo sampai kat fret 8 terus stop bunyi. walaupun dah naikkan brigde masih ada lagi. walaupun dah adjust truss rod masih ada lagi tapi dah kurang la.
reason kedua, saje je nak blaja psl tremolo ni sbb takde experience lagik... agaknya mungkin sbb neck ni tak dibuat dgn betul kot.. ai... gitar murah... hehe.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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IZZI wrote:
haa.. jgn lupa copy dan framekan apa yg sifu browndog ni cakap.. heheh.. good tips bro!



hehe... good tips ni... thanks sifu browndog... wooof! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: synchronised tremolo Reply with quote



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ultraman_cosmo wrote:
randy_rhoads wrote:
hah... nak mintak tlg... anyone here ada idea tak mcm mana nak naikkan bridge utk gitar yg guna synchronised tremolo. thanks.. Razz


kenaper nak naikan, geng?
atau ko nak mod supaya is floating dan boleh whammy up macam bridge ibanez gio.
action rendah sagat ker?


tak ar mr ultra... sbb fret buzz tuh... jadik nak naikkan... pergh bila naikkan bridge dia punya sustain alamak aiii.... sedap beralun alun... hehehe...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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bro browndog2woof....bleh la buka kelas ajar kiteorang yg mentah langsung nih....uhuhuhuhuhu
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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wah.. nice info.. btw bro.. dah dpt nasi lemak zainal strat? Laughing
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whose_ni wrote:
bro browndog2woof....bleh la buka kelas ajar kiteorang yg mentah langsung nih....uhuhuhuhuhu


fretted bro,

no poblem! wa tarahal, post aje sakit nya apa ya, kita usahakan dan kita tawakal je!....

woof!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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thanks mr woof for making my guitar back to sing more than before..huhuuuuu
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