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| khairold |
 Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: Marshall 1960A |
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Nak tanya pendapat expert-expert sekalian
cabinet 1960A ok ke tak kalau nak main classic rock?
ni set up yang aku tgh cuba nak dapatkan skang la
Vox Tonelab SE (dah ada) -> Power Amp (mungkin peavey classic 50/50) -> Cabinet (mungkin marshall 1960A)
ngan apa beza dia dari segi bunyi dengan 1960AV, 1960AX, 1960AC
sesiapa yang ada pendapat tolong nasihat kan aku sikit |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| khairold |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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dah baca dah cik ultraman...
sebelum aku nak beli pape mmg aku akan search internet
harmony-central tu nye review mmg aku akan baca sampai nak muntah sbb asik pandang monitor je
tapi kekadang ada gak pendapat yang conflicting.. apa apa pon mmg subjective
cuma aku rasa comfortable sikit kalau ade org kat sini yang bagi pendapat
and aku nak beli ni used la... itu pon kalau dapat harga bagus nye.. |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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hahhaha.
ok lah tu.
berapa RM angkat vox tone lab SE boss? CK music yer.
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| khairold |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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aku pon tak tau la..
banyak gak org ckp tonelab ni limited and cam tak ramai org kat sini guna
tapi semenjak aku tgk gambar tonelab se tu kat belakang magazine apa ntah
aku terus jatuh cinta
lepas baca review pon jatuh cinta
lepas main pon jatuh cinta
kekadang ade la konflik tapi esok nye tu aku akan sayang dia balik
hahaha
aku nak beli 1960A ni pon kat jepon la
ni mmg buruk gila nye la
kalau direct translation (aku guna web translator) dia kategori kan sebagai 'junk article'
hehehe
tapi tak sure la.. kene tunggu dan lihat
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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kalau benda2 mahal dan vintage mcm tube amp marshall apa kejadah semua ni kena refer pada abang2 tube club tu: mr Riki & mr. Kudo.. 
silakan brader2 sekalian...
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| chamber09 |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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tumpang sekaki sat..aku ingat ckop duit early next year nak angkat head 5150 atau mesa boogie,...tatau la mesa boogie model mane..sebab susah nak cari kat sni..but aku x ckop duit nak beli cabinet..so aku cocok head tu kat amp 10watt aku bleh ke?
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| eos |
| Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| chamber..baik ko simpan duit sampai cukup beli dua2 head + cabinet..kalau tak saba beli je combo 5150..takpon combo randall (memandangkan ko mat metal)...takkan nak pakai head yg watt besar cucuk kat 10watt amp? |
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| chamber09 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| kudo |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
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deadzid: err... terima kasih?
khairold: deadzid suruh tanya aku, tapi aku tak reti sangat nak jawab. hahaha. tanya rikirahman, he has a marshall 4x12 cab for his heads. aku kalau nak aku taram je, janji impedance and wattage dia betul for the head. pasal kalau salah meletup, bro. (this goes for you, encik chamber, beli mesa rectoverb combo dah mahal/meletup rumah - nak beli head silakan lah, tapi nak connect to a 10w amp? umpamakan pasang engine lori dalam kereta kancil. go figure. ).
WARNING TO POTENTIAL VALVE AMP BUYERS:
4x12 set up dgn amp kuat memang loud, be warned. di rumah, aku punya 40w aku berani pasang kat no.1-2 je (pukul 7-8 ) bila overdrive. you know how frustrated that can be (kawan aku suruh beli valve amp 15w, tak nak dgr. nak kiasu konon)? aku main kat jamming studio dpt juga akhirnya dgr amp valve tu bunyi as it supposed to be. lepas 3 jam telinga berdesing mcm pegi gig metallica. kid you not.
so ini lah drawback bila ada amp bagak/power/valve tapi nak main kat rumah. bukan tak boleh beli, tapi an issue to think about. i'm gigging with mine, the first chance i get!
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:13 am Post subject: |
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kesimpulannya, unless if you're a professional musician who gigs alot on large scale concert stage, just get a small amp for practice use or 50w solid state combo amp if you gig/jam regularly. tube amp ni belanja besar, maintanance tinggi (setahun sekali kena tukar valve - ye ke?), power tapi takleh main kuat2 kat rumah, etc...
alternative lain, get an amp simulator, multi-efx, whatever that suit the purpose of getting the tube sound you want...
itu pendapat aku yg tak pernah truly experience tube amp la heheh...
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| kudo |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: |
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tak payah la nak jadik pro nak beli valve amp. hahaha.
valve tukar annually kalau kau pulun mcm nak gila. masa guna kena ada 'adab' dia. pasang standby for at least 5 mins then switch on, nak padam switch off dulu, biar 5-10 min then padam standby. masa amp tgh on jgn nak angkat2. bila ikut tatasusila menggunakan valve amp, valve tu tahan lama.
walaupun nampak banyak hassle eg ganti valve, amp berat mematahkan pinggang - bunyi valve amp sedap. sekali guna, solid state buat almari je.
nanti kau beli krank idaman kau tu kau tau la penangannya.
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| chamber09 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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ngahaha..bawak gi jam je kot..kat umah pakai je 10 wattt..pening r aku pakai simulator ke mende2 kecik bebanyak..wire adapter berserabot
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| riki_rahman |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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dudes & my beloved & dearest maya karin,
yg paling penting dlm pemilihan cabs ialah speakers! coz almost all companies yg bikin frame akan pakai marine birch or pine ply... which sounds character between both tak byk beza!  Marshall, Orange, Fender pakai pine. setahu aku HIWATT, WEM & Sound City je yg pakai marine birch...
speakers: Celestion (bukan Celestial ye!), Jensen, Eminenece, Fane, Swanson...etc. utk classic rock, tak lain tak bukan mesti laa Celestion Greenbacks = Marshall! but if nak classic sound mcm The Who, kene laa beli Fane or Swanson...
secondly: POWERRRR! this depends pada wattage amp yg kau pakai laa. so if kau nak kuat, pakai laa 4x12, if not 2x12 pun dah cukup kuat! pepahal pun, RMS speakers mesti lebih dr wattage amp.
btw, aku dah lama jual Marshall 4x12 aku. skrg pakai 2 2x12s loaded with Greenbacks & V30s... 
p/s: a mesa to a 10-watter? chamber09, jgn laa 'malukan' ESP RM10k kau mcm tu skali...
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| khairold |
| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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ooo...
encik riki
kalau satu 2x12 tu, speaker Greenback & V30 kan, boleh buat jadi stereo ke? ke kene ada 2 2x12?
dengan nak tanya.. ko nye 2x12 tu sapa buat kan?
aku ade tgk avatarspeaker nye cabinet (yang mengikut dia paling popular la) 2x12 G12H30 & V30, tapi aku rasa cam mono je.. kalau aku pepandai alter bagi jadi stereo ok ke sound dia eh? susah tak nak buat benda tu?
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