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| xnoybis |
 Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: Saya budak baru belajar |
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| SANGAP |
| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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'saya' tak tengok video ni tapi assume 'awak' nak blajo trademark dimebag harmonic squeals ek?aku bukan sifu/guru/ekspert hehe tapi pernah folo lesson die kat GW..fyi dah 2x kuar lesson tu..
ni rough punye care..1-kene floating la tentunya 2-finger-mutekan unwanted tali 3-bunyikan pakai fretting finger dan dump mawar floyd cepat2 hanya kat tali yang diingini 4-mase tali masih flapping,natural harmonikkan tali tu kat fret yang diingini without picking it..kire letak je jari kat situ 5-gune la bar tu untuk mengkotak-katikkan lagik harmonik tu..weww..wEEeEeEewWwtTtt!!! 6-untuk efek yang lebih lame,release jari yang buat harmonik 7-jangan putus tali taim tu sudah..potong stim la keke
klau takleh gak pakai care rough aku ni nanti aku taipkan balik lesson die..huh akhirnya menyumbang gak aku setelah asyik bertanya2 je kat forum ni huhu.in the meantime try la carik kat net dulu..rase2 ade kot orang postkan lesson tu..tak ternilai beb!
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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yerp.. point utama dlm lesson tu ialah HARMONIC dan TREMOLO.
So ko mesti tau apa itu harmonic. Basic harmonic sound : untuk free string, basic harmonic yg paling jelas boleh kedengaran ialah pada fret yang ke 5, 7 dan 12. boleh cuba kat fret 12th. Letak jari betul2 atas besi fret dan tak perlu tekan string tu sampai terkena besi fret tu. Just letak jari secara lightly. Then petik dan angkat jari yg atas fret tu. Thats Harmonic.
lepas tu main la tremolo tu.
boleh cuba kat tempat2 lain(ada byk tpt lagi). Ada tpt yg harmonicnya kuat ada yg tak kuat(bergantung pada pickup response, EQ setting dan body ressonance). Always use bridge or middle pickup. good luck!
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| omarjamaludin |
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aku rasa plenty of gain pun penting..dimebag guna max gain walaupun guna solid state randall ...pastu dia guna noise gate kot...
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Omar is correct. Fret 5, 7 dan 12 sangat sensitif dan harmonic boleh dibuat menggunakan semua guitar termasuk guitar kapok yang tiada overdrive. Tetapi selain dari fret 5,7 dan 12, GAIN dan EQ setting byk membantu. Sound guitar yg byk Treble lebih senang mengeluarkan harmonic berbanding bassy sound.
p/s: kitorang bukan sifu/guru/expert.. kitorang cuma tahu awal sikit je so dpt la share sikit sebanyak.. SO kalau ko pun ada tips, share la dgn org lain.. roger.
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| xnoybis |
| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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thx guys psl tolong explain. baru la sikit faham...
sangap, would really appreciate it kalu boleh tolong scankan dimebag lesson tu...
off topic sikit, betul ke dimebag pakai pickup dimebucker utk semua dean + washburn dia? |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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kalau dia dah sign contract sbg endorsee mmg dia kena pakai.. tp utk kedua2 washburn dan dean tu tak sure la.. kena tgk contract dia la..
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| Ridzi |
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| Artificial harmonics... pick the string and in a splitsecond touch the string lightly with the side of your picking hand thumb. the technique yes is quite difficult to master...but once you suss it out..it easy... |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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ridzi.. bila nak start project band rock kita ni?
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| Ridzi |
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aku belum dapat nak siapkan la...busy ngan kerje
fly sana sini...letih wooo...pastu buat part time job aku lagi...cari duit lebih..... |
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| SANGAP |
| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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yang video tu harmonic scream ke squeal eh?aku tak tengok pon,tapi kalau yang 'lesson' aku tu harmonic scream silap bukan squeal..squeal yang cam ridzi's tu.anyways havent had the time to post the official lesson yet..nanti la minggu depan ke..
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| SANGAP |
| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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As Dime explained, "To make harmonics scream like this, I dump my Floyd Rose real quick, hit a harmonic with my left hand while the strings are still flapping, and then use the bar to pull it up to the pitch i wanna hit." Although this may sound like a somewhat complex maneuver, its actually not that tough once youve gotten used to it - providing, of course, that youve got a locking tremolo, rather than a nonlocking trem, on your guitar. (Extreme abuse of this sort would knock a nonlocking trem out of tune.) Also, if you want to pull a harmonic up past its regular pitch, your bridge needs to be floating so you can "yank the bar up, as well as push it down," as Dime so eloquently explained.
In 1993, Dime dedicated two of his highly acclaimed Riffer Madness columns to this technique, demonstrating it in four easy-to-follow steps. For his example Dime chose the harmonic directly above the fifth fret on the G string ("'cause its pretty easy one to nail"), then made it "scream" up to its original pitch of G. Before you begin, though, dial up a distorted sound (remember, gain helps emphasize harmonics) and switch to your bridge pickup.
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STEP 1:Position your left hand so youre ready to play the 5th fret harmonic on the G string with your middle finger. Then mute the high E and B strings with your left index finger and the low E,A and D with your thumb by hooking it around the top side of the fretboard.
STEP 2:Flick the G string with your middle finger and dump the bar down to the pitch you want to scream to start at.
STEP 3:As soon as the bar is dumped, sound the harmonic by lightly tapping the G string directly above the 5th fret with your middle finger. While doing this, make sure youre still "checking" the other strings and keeping them quiet with your left thumb and index finger.
STEP 4:As soon as youve hit the harmonic, release pressure on the bar and let the G string return back up to pitch. As long as youve sounded the harmonic properly itll "scream" up to G.
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"The 1st few times you do this youre gonna hear the open G string "growl" before the scream starts happening," Dime explained, "This is because youre doing everything in 'slow motion.' Once youve gotten this technique down, though, you wont hear the growl because youll be doing the 1st 3 steps so quickly, theyll almost be simultaneous. If it takes you a while to get these 'squels' happening, dont skid...it took me a while too!"
The perfect showcase of this trademark technique is of course, the outro of "Cemetery Gates." Dont expect to be able to execute its harmonic screams perfectly on your first few tries though. It could take you a while, but perseverelah. To quote Dimebag one last time: before you know it you'll be "cranking these sons-of-bitches so high that dogs'll be barking!" Huahaha klasik weh!
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| ultraman_cosmo |
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Heheheh,
aku dah baca comment diatas, kebanyakan aku stuju. tapi aku ada pendapat aku nak dikongsikan.
bagi aku pekara paling penting.
1. teknik.
2. pickup.
3, gain n presence.
teknik.
| IZZI wrote: | Omar is correct. Fret 5, 7 dan 12 sangat sensitif dan harmonic boleh dibuat menggunakan semua guitar termasuk guitar kapok yang tiada overdrive. Tetapi selain dari fret 5,7 dan 12, GAIN dan EQ setting byk membantu. Sound guitar yg byk Treble lebih senang mengeluarkan harmonic berbanding bassy sound.
p/s: kitorang bukan sifu/guru/expert.. kitorang cuma tahu awal sikit je so dpt la share sikit sebanyak.. SO kalau ko pun ada tips, share la dgn org lain.. roger. |
aku stuju ne.
- utk fret 5, 7 dan 12 adalah normal. tapi bagi aku antara fret 2 and 4 adalah yang paling tajam dan bising. benda ne sama macam harmoni picking style kat area middle pickup hanya tapi kali ne kita buat harmonic touch kat area fret 2 to 4.
- try petik tali and touch pelahan lahan antara fret 2 ker 4... korang akan jumpa harmonic kat situ.
- utk dime punya squel ne aku shorkan guna tekan harmonic yang paling dekat dengan nut supaya produce harmonic lagi tajam.
- pemilihan String pun pekara paling penting, aku tau biasa korang buat harmonic tali no 3.
- bagi aku , lebih suka buat harmonic kat tali yang besar macam 6,5,4 sebab lagi besar tali lagi lama ia bergetar so korang akan dapat squel sustain yang panjang. tali 4 5 adalah paling best.
- try squel kat tali 4 or 5 pada fret 2-4, korang akan faham aper maksud akau tentang susutain dia.
- tapi tali besar jangan sampai berlaga dengan pickup dah ler... hehhehe
- lagipun utk tali besar pickup senang tangkap walo pun berada jauh or terlalu dekat dari pickup.
- guna tali besar pun akan nyebabkan squel boleh main pada pickup neck.
- tali besar kalo kita tarik or longarkan floyd rose dgn laju akan menyebabkan tali tu senang bergetar balik berbanding tali nipis 1 2 dan 3.
- mute, tanpa keadah mute tali yang cekap imposible boleh buat harmonic yang clean.
- touch hormonic area. ne pekara paling selalu kene practice. kita touch sekali pada jangka masa paling pendek supaya sustain tak turun.
- DAN practice jer cara nak bagi perfect
Pickup
- high output pickup adalah antara paling penting nak buat 'squels'.
- dengan teknik yang bagus dah tentu sustain akan lama giler.
- high output pickup boleh bantu supaya bunyi 'squels' tu kuat kerana masa tu tali mungkin berada jauh or dekat dari string sebab floyd rose terjongket or tengelam.
- utk harmonic pada antara fret 2 n 4 memang perlu pickup high. utk fret 5 7 12 or 24 sememangnya memana pickup pun bunyi kuat.
- Antara pickup yang pernah aku dapat bunyi 'squels' yang best adalah SH13 dimebuker n dimarzio evolution bridge... even evo neck pun boleh tahan juga. EMG dah semestinya.
gain n presence.
- Gain amp semamngnya boleh mantain bunyi 'squels' yang panjang dan kuat.
- bg amp ada presence control, presence akan buat bunyi 'squels' lebih jelas dan menyerlah. very high frequency. Tone DIME memang presence tahap dewa.
- EQ memang penting, cut high dah tentu 'squels' jadi tak 'squels' sangat. so bg eq, high and presence biasa tambahkan.
2sen...
kalo salah harap perbetulkan... hehhehehe
[skali tulis jadi karangan... ]
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