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| SANGAP |
 Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: technique question(s) |
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er..just some questions on basic soloing techniques..harap2 doktor & guitar docs lelain bleh la tolong jawab..
1.how do you play the A major arpeggio (sweep picking style)?especially the notes on the G and D strings?gune two fingers or one@the finger rolling thingy?when i use two fingers,i become slower&kabut but when i use mende roll2 tu my rolling finger forms what-michaelangelobatio-calls the 'banana ape ntah'..one of the bad fingering habits that can cause tendenaitis ape tu..die kate la.so whats the most recommended method?
2.fast descending triplets using alternate picking..for example frets 5,4,2 D string,5,3,2 A string and 5,3,2 E string..start picking tu gune upward ke downward?bleh main memanekan tapi nak yang paling direkemenkan la..
3.klau doc dan incik2 shredders tengok aku ade hati cube bersolo tapi picking teknik campur2@tak konsisten,kutuk dalam hati tak?huaha!
btw teori aku sengal..so harap2 paham la apa aku cuba keutarakan ni hehe..soalan2 lain menyusul nanti la kot,lupe la ape nak tanye..
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| Bode |
| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: technique question(s) |
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| SANGAP wrote: | er..just some questions on basic soloing techniques..harap2 doktor & guitar docs lelain bleh la tolong jawab..
1.how do you play the A major arpeggio (sweep picking style)?especially the notes on the G and D strings?gune two fingers or one@the finger rolling thingy?when i use two fingers,i become slower&kabut but when i use mende roll2 tu my rolling finger forms what-michaelangelobatio-calls the 'banana ape ntah'..one of the bad fingering habits that can cause tendenaitis ape tu..die kate la.so whats the most recommended method?
2.fast descending triplets using alternate picking..for example frets 5,4,2 D string,5,3,2 A string and 5,3,2 E string..start picking tu gune upward ke downward?bleh main memanekan tapi nak yang paling direkemenkan la..
3.klau doc dan incik2 shredders tengok aku ade hati cube bersolo tapi picking teknik campur2@tak konsisten,kutuk dalam hati tak?huaha!
btw teori aku sengal..so harap2 paham la apa aku cuba keutarakan ni hehe..soalan2 lain menyusul nanti la kot,lupe la ape nak tanye.. |
1. Whatever you feel comfortable bro. Personally, if those 2 notes are on one fret, I would do the finger roll thing...but in the end, do whatever works best for you.
Tendinitis only comes if you attempt to play difficult passages without warming up properly or playing excessively until you injure your hand...but not due to the finger roll technique.
I got tendinitis because I tried to squeeze 60 hours practice into just 10 hours after not touching the guitar at all for many months... 
2. Up or downstroke...either way is right! You decide which one is more comfortable depending on the lick just before or after that.
3.Actually, if you are to just strictly alternate pick or just strictly legato,....I do sometimes find that boring (personal subjective opinion). I prefer players who combines various techniques to give variety and different colours to their playing. Greg Howe is a good example....he combines sweep arpeggios/taps/picking/legato in his licks very tastefully.
So...carry on the way you are now bro! |
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| MiN |
| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: technique question(s) |
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| SANGAP wrote: | er..just some questions on basic soloing techniques..harap2 doktor & guitar docs lelain bleh la tolong jawab..
1.how do you play the A major arpeggio (sweep picking style)?especially the notes on the G and D strings?gune two fingers or one@the finger rolling thingy?when i use two fingers,i become slower&kabut but when i use mende roll2 tu my rolling finger forms what-michaelangelobatio-calls the 'banana ape ntah'..one of the bad fingering habits that can cause tendenaitis ape tu..die kate la.so whats the most recommended method?
2.fast descending triplets using alternate picking..for example frets 5,4,2 D string,5,3,2 A string and 5,3,2 E string..start picking tu gune upward ke downward?bleh main memanekan tapi nak yang paling direkemenkan la..
3.klau doc dan incik2 shredders tengok aku ade hati cube bersolo tapi picking teknik campur2@tak konsisten,kutuk dalam hati tak?huaha!
btw teori aku sengal..so harap2 paham la apa aku cuba keutarakan ni hehe..soalan2 lain menyusul nanti la kot,lupe la ape nak tanye.. |
1. ermmm.....there are a few ways in executing a major arpeggios....i sometimes use different pattern which require different fingerings.....but i think i know which type of arpeggio you mean....and the finger rolling thing is the most common way of doing it....but then again try the A major arpeggio using different pattern.
2. different people use different ways of doing it....but there is some secrets in doing alternate picking....it all depends on what type of sequence you are using. you might always start with a down motion but when it comes to certain sequence if you start with down motion you will end up playing horribly....but for starters just use the normal updown picking and when you get to a certain level you will understand what i mean about those secrets....kwkewkekwek
3. kalau aku tgk gitaris gitaris yg cuba nak shred dan picking tak consistent aku tak kisah sebenarnya....tapi kalau dorang tu berlagak terrer tapi picking bertabur tu yg aku kutuk dalam hati....tapi kalau dorang selamba jer aku pun selamba jer.... |
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| Bode |
| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: technique question(s) |
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| MiN wrote: |
3. kalau aku tgk gitaris gitaris yg cuba nak shred dan picking tak consistent aku tak kisah sebenarnya....tapi kalau dorang tu berlagak terrer tapi picking bertabur tu yg aku kutuk dalam hati....tapi kalau dorang selamba jer aku pun selamba jer.... |
He he he betul tu...tapi betul tak Min...so far...selalunya yg dok berlagak tu yg main cam sial...yg malu2 segan tu yg ko kena selalu jaga....sekali depa buka langkah...tergamam siot... 
Anyway...I forgot to add that it's good to mix and match techniques when you play, but it is strongly advisable when you alternate pick...it is coordinated...no matter slow or fast...one stroke one note...no more no less...it sounds waaaayyyy better that way  |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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aku bab2 arpegeos ni mmg tak reti langsung.. yg aku tau main petatonic then pejam mata dan main .. gentel2 sikti dah jadi..
tapi pada pendapat aku.. masalah bila ko tukar fingering style jadi lambat tu lambat laun akan dapat diatasi.. pendapat aku sama mcm BOde, ko guna style yg paling ko feel confortable dan sounds good. Its ok kalau jadi lambat sebab benda tu akan semakin hari semakin improve. Nanti tanpa disedari rupanya dah laju dah..
p/s: aku pun still berterabur dan tak konsisten lagi.. frustrated betul!
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| MiN |
| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: Re: technique question(s) |
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| Bode wrote: | | MiN wrote: |
3. kalau aku tgk gitaris gitaris yg cuba nak shred dan picking tak consistent aku tak kisah sebenarnya....tapi kalau dorang tu berlagak terrer tapi picking bertabur tu yg aku kutuk dalam hati....tapi kalau dorang selamba jer aku pun selamba jer.... |
He he he betul tu...tapi betul tak Min...so far...selalunya yg dok berlagak tu yg main cam sial...yg malu2 segan tu yg ko kena selalu jaga....sekali depa buka langkah...tergamam siot...
Anyway...I forgot to add that it's good to mix and match techniques when you play, but it is strongly advisable when you alternate pick...it is coordinated...no matter slow or fast...one stroke one note...no more no less...it sounds waaaayyyy better that way |
kwkekwkewkek....betul jugak bro Bode....dah ramai la budak budak sekarang macam tu. mungkin influence kot....dan yg terrer tu selalunya rileks jer.... |
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| SANGAP |
| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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wah seronok btul reply2 camni..rupenye cara sengal aku main ni diapprove la gak eh?hehe cayalah tengkiu memang best la otai2 i-bands!
aku memang akhir2 ni agak conscious ngan picking aku..nak down ke up..down ke up..tak tau la asal..bajet angan2 nak stat jadik tere kot hehe..
ok2 one more!em camne nak execute dengan bestnye ape yg paul gilbert buat dalam technical difficulties (2.54-3.01 tak silap) solo tu?yang rake+bend+stakato tu..lagik skali,picking die yang lebih efektif gune up+up../up+down+up..?pastu muting ngan fretting hand ke picking hand?pasal aku buat selama ni kurang best la..tolong ye lagik skali?
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| SANGAP wrote: | wah seronok btul reply2 camni..rupenye cara sengal aku main ni diapprove la gak eh?hehe cayalah tengkiu memang best la otai2 i-bands!
aku memang akhir2 ni agak conscious ngan picking aku..nak down ke up..down ke up..tak tau la asal..bajet angan2 nak stat jadik tere kot hehe..
ok2 one more!em camne nak execute dengan bestnye ape yg paul gilbert buat dalam technical difficulties (2.54-3.01 tak silap) solo tu?yang rake+bend+stakato tu..lagik skali,picking die yang lebih efektif gune up+up../up+down+up..?pastu muting ngan fretting hand ke picking hand?pasal aku buat selama ni kurang best la..tolong ye lagik skali? |
tu....bukan rake....die bending terus alternate picking....tu je....
gilbert guna up+down+up....bukan up+up.... |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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yess.. gilbert mmg main down+up+down+up.. dan dia cocentrate pada down note..
kalau Michael Romeo of Symphony X tu ye la.. down+up+down+down+up+down+down...
kalau aku punya pulak down+up+sangkut+down+takdebunyi+up+putustali.. hehehe..
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| izuanhafez wrote: |
kalau aku punya pulak down+up+sangkut+down+takdebunyi+up+putustali.. hehehe.. |
Tu yg buat sedap lebih tu... |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: |
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eh bro.. itu avatar tu gambar org rumah ko ke gambar jururawat yg ko nak ngurat?
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| izuanhafez wrote: | | eh bro.. itu avatar tu gambar org rumah ko ke gambar jururawat yg ko nak ngurat? |
Bini aku la...
Aku tengok omar letak avatar gambar pompuan, Ery pun dok feeling...so aku pun ikut juga la feeling2...
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| Bode |
| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:16 am Post subject: Re: technique question(s) |
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| MiN wrote: | | Bode wrote: | | MiN wrote: |
3. kalau aku tgk gitaris gitaris yg cuba nak shred dan picking tak consistent aku tak kisah sebenarnya....tapi kalau dorang tu berlagak terrer tapi picking bertabur tu yg aku kutuk dalam hati....tapi kalau dorang selamba jer aku pun selamba jer.... |
He he he betul tu...tapi betul tak Min...so far...selalunya yg dok berlagak tu yg main cam sial...yg malu2 segan tu yg ko kena selalu jaga....sekali depa buka langkah...tergamam siot...
Anyway...I forgot to add that it's good to mix and match techniques when you play, but it is strongly advisable when you alternate pick...it is coordinated...no matter slow or fast...one stroke one note...no more no less...it sounds waaaayyyy better that way |
kwkekwkewkek....betul jugak bro Bode....dah ramai la budak budak sekarang macam tu. mungkin influence kot....dan yg terrer tu selalunya rileks jer.... |
Wey Min...dengar citer Guthrie Govan dah keluar album dgn band dia 'Erotic Cakes'...betul ke? Kalau betul, aku misti beli ni! |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| omarjamaludin wrote: | | heee heee..kita buat avatar theme kali ni 'feeeling avatar' silakan silakan |
Tu la...miss the good old times...ingat tak theme 'headstock/rayban' dan 'horror' dulu? 
Aku ada simpan semua gambar2 kita semua masa tu! Cuma the original avatar ko yg headstock dgn wig tu aku tak sempat save...ada lagi tak? By popular request!
Anyway...who is the person in your avatar? |
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