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| aB |
 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject: that humming @ neck again |
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Bode, that humbucking yearning again. Not contented with the neck single coils & again toying the idea of changing it to the stack sc pickup. hi output, edgy hi-mids ala paula gilberto' diMarzio PAFs @ neck. HS-3 didn't quite do it. Can't remember which one we came out with last time, can you recall? should i consider lace sensor at all? (digging a hole to accomodate a humbucker @neck position still not an option... 
guys&gals, any ideas? i need a noise-less hi-output, hi & clear hi-mids freq pickup @ neck position. single-coil size only. listen to paul gilbert's neck p/u... ahhh... that's it. |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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bro..
kalau dah tukar.. boleh la sedekah kat saya pickup lama tu.. amal jariah jugak tu..
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| gapster |
| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: that humming @ neck again |
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| aB wrote: | | i need a noise-less hi-output, hi & clear hi-mids freq pickup @ neck position. single-coil size only. listen to paul gilbert's neck p/u... ahhh... that's it. |
there is no such thing as a single coil high output i think..i can't think of any..
if you are talking about twinblade single coil got lah 
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| aB |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:48 am Post subject: |
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There are quite a few high outputs single-coils-sized pickups out there : seymour duncans (hotrails, hotstack) diMarzio (tone zone-s ), emg (hz s1, s3) - to name a few. All has DC resistance (amongst other things) comparable to the humbucker bretherens (>10ohms)- these are either stacked or side-by-side singlecoils effectively making them a 'single-coiled-sized' humbuckers, noise-less & hi output. Unfortunately, there are way too many variables out there making pickup selection SO difficult! ambiguous marketing claims by some manufacturers to us 'layman' don't help either examples: "tremendous mid-range and bass response...", "..featuring Alnico 5 polepieces with 2-1/8" spread, under a solid cover!!.." i thot most common pickups use alnico magnets polepieces anyway...?) problem is, i couldnt find any 'sound samples' (except seymour duncans') of these stacked single coils @neck position from the net ...
yup... i make a big deal about sound, walau main tak seberapa. fussy, picky & choosy macam maknenek. and just when i thought i've tweaked the settings (again) of my guitar, amp, multieffects nicely last night... the whole of Gasing Indah blackedout till this morning. HUH !!  digress a bit : for your info, TNB hotline is 15454....
wan! settttttt! once aku dapat THE tone... boleeeeh!  |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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bro aB, i think you can also increase you signal output by putting EQ pedal in the 1st place before any other pedal in your chain.
tapi ada kelemahannya, dengan noise sekali pun turut kena boost jugak.. but if you have Hush/gate pedal, boleh tweak lagi..
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| kudo |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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aB: i listened to your playing in shyboy (that's you solo-ing at the end right?). now you are a man who i think excels at his playing. i am sure as a guitarist of your calibre, you can easily nail a pablo gilberto tone by tweaking what you already have on your strat and amp.
which brings me to something i noted at a PG guitar clinic many years ago in birmingham when someone in the audience asked if gilbert used specially-made PGM ibanez-es. the answer was no. he used the same stock ones that you could buy off the rack. the chap then asked again and i will never forget this, "i have the same ibanez PGM guitar that you are playing right now, and i am just bewildered by how YOUR guitar sounds." which by the way, dalam hati aku pun cakap, "pasal tu paul gilbert. aku kasi squier china pun bunyi macam paul gilbert."
a similar anecdote is also heard about eric clapton playing some shite guitar at a pub, but still sounding like eric clapton.
i think that quest for tone is in all of us. we all want that same thing, but sometimes we lose sight (including yours truly - who had paid top dollar for duncan pickups in the past) of what actually matters. it's you who defines the tone and not some gizmo. and rightly so, all of us get confused with all the marketing like you astutely pointed out in the pickup adverts!
aB, don't get me wrong, bro'. do go on and buy that humbucking singlecoil. ini bukan preaching time at the nighttime gospel hour, hanya a discussion!
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| aB |
| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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kudo : hey, thanks for yr feedback mate! yes, very true. it's almost (if not all) all in the fingers. i remember reading articles on several guitar heroes mentioning exactly the same thing. i totally believe in the beauty of being unique - or simply put, tak perlu nak imitate/copy others' signature tones. what i am trying to achieve, tone-wise, is (almost) there... just that having 'breathe' active humbucker bridge pickup with gazzillion hi output most of my youth, i feel so 'inadequate' when switching to a single coil. sama macam shredding on low-action guitar with high gain super distort etc for the last 10 years, suddenly put on stage with a flamenco guitar, unplugged. felt numb & naked
Wan mentioned tweaking with eq-s, yes, that helped tremendously of course. but the 'slack' as far as my fickle ears are concerned is the single coil transducing the 'raw tones' from the strings. no amount of eq-ing (not yet! still trying!) would do it, as the 'source' lacks 'umph' (very technical there....).
... nope. no buying for a while... ab Junior need the funds for his pampers & formula milk ....
appreciate the (natural) feedbacks ! |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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yes bro.. i can understand.. its about the source.. even the ouput dah boosted, but the tone character is no change.
p/s: i love fender raw tones.. it sounds so fender.. heheh
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| Bode |
| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Dude...go to http://www.dimarzio.com/ ...look up under pickups-> strat ->hum-cancelling strat -> TONE ZONE S
This is the one I ordered on your behalf from Ichi (now at CK music at Jln Imbi...not with SL Music anymore).
HS 3 is just a louder and hum cancelling single coil tone....while I know you want a real humbucker tone...I think this Tone Zone S is the closest to what you want...without the need to gouge a humbucker hole on your Strat.
I need to plonk in an Evolution into my prototype soon....and all my guitars need lotsa work to be done... |
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| RikiRaikonnen |
| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I have an EMG HZ S1 on my neck. Got it from e-bay.. brand new for USD20.. well USD30 including shipping.. man that was a bargain. But I can only secure 1 because after that I couldn't find another one for middle. That thing must be so unpopular. Stew mac have it for USD57. I can get a SD or Dim for that kinda money.
Well I bought it simply for the sake of changing PU (not because I think the stock PU sucks) and e-bay test purchase. Can't really explain the character of the PU due to lack of experience (started electric 6 months ago) except that it is not noiseless. |
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| aB |
| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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last weekend tukar neck p/u to this, literally, li'l screamin demon!!!
settle satu masalah hidup. |
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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berapa duit dpt dan beli kat mana?
aku tgh dlm proses nak beli pickup set texas special.. Nak beli HS-3 mahal sangat..
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| aB |
| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | berapa duit dpt dan beli kat mana?
aku tgh dlm proses nak beli pickup set texas special.. Nak beli HS-3 mahal sangat.. |
penat tunggu ebay takde orang nak jual murah2... so, ikat perut, pi bentley, sambar terus & install - total all-in RM370.
wey... HS-3 aku ada, masih dalam neck guitar yg memang tidak digunakan pun ... nak tak? murah murah cuba dulu.. kalau best baru bincang... |
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| Bode |
| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Dude...bila nak ambik balik HM Strat ko? 
Plus there's a whole trunkload of ab's stuff in my house...ur tape deck(remember cassete tapes?), ZIP drives(remember those too?)
Good thing you got the lil screamin' demon...I just hope that you got time to play it!
I just did a session last night after a looooooong time...touched my pre-amp and prototype guitar for the first time in ages...and all of 'em covered by a thick layer of dust...almost forgot how to operate the thingy...and forgot how to play the guitar too... Surprised that Mr. producer still willing to pay me in the end...  |
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