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| Mad Souls |
 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject: tips for recording vocal?? |
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| helo semua...nak mintak tolong sikit. mcm mana cara tbaik kalau nak record vocal(PC recording)? do u need any gadget like mixer, or anything..or juz plug-in the mic into the line-in of the sound card? and lastly how to do mastering for the vocal? nak kena letak reverb ke..apa ke? ok thanks!! |
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| okta |
| Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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hey Mad Souls,
it all depend what are you trying to achieve here, and of course your budget.
Sure u can but a chep karaoke mic worth RM3 and find an adapter to insert your mic in the Line-in an on board soundcard.
Or you can have a soundcard with pre-amp, phantom power...etc. and buy a condenser mic. Whatever works for you.
You don't need a whole mixer to use a microphone. Normally it is use because usually mixers have their mic pre-amp and phantom power,so if you akready have a mixer with that, you can use it.(phantom power only for condenser mics).
About the positioning, i think there's not much positioning for vocals.
I've read on Audio Technology Mag:
Placing mics at different position affects the signal, wether direct on the mouth's level, lower or higher.
Obviously putting the mic further you'll achieve more of the room sound.
Sometimes a pop filter is needed, to avoid the popping sound when using words with p,t,d...(plosive nouns).
Editing the vocal track is too subjective. Some people like giant size hall reverb, some have it dry....
There's a few types of plugins for vocals. I only know Yamaha's Vocal Rack.
Antares have a few. mic modeler,auto-tune and a vocoder plugin(can't remember the name..)
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| Mad Souls |
| Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for ur tips!! one more thing..can u suggest any good soundcard with the price between RM200-RM300? |
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| okta |
| Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure on that.
Perhaps you should save up a bit more and get a higher range stuff. Something with ASIO. |
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| Mad Souls |
| Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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ok thanks!  |
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| hungry |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:16 am Post subject: mad souls..get audigy 2 zs .. |
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| okta |
| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Maybe i'm getting outdated 
Plz tell me which soundcard is that.
thanx |
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| Mad Souls |
| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: mad souls..get audigy 2 zs .. |
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| hungry wrote: | | uumnn...i think u can get it for bout rm400 bit over than that lah....supports asio and constant sampling rate....byk ader..yamaha has a new one 2...but at the end of the day.kena tgk poket dulu.ehehe... |
yup...im thinking of buying audigy? does it support asio? which model of audigy? please advise me cause i have zero knowledge abt soundcard. bukan apa..ada la satu software tu Cubase...byk ckp benda pasal asio ni..so i guess i hav to buy soundcard that support asio kalau nak pakai software tu. but then again..i kena upgrade my PC dulu la b4 i start to use this Cubase..byk makan memory!! |
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| hungry |
| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:43 am Post subject: audigy2zs supports asio. |
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject: waaa |
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ermm.. aku tak terer sgt ... tapi care aku utk record vocs nih...
mic >> mixer >> pc (soundcard SB Live!) >> acid pro software
dlm acid pro tuh plak aku akan apply effects:
EQ (utk tone vocal tuh) ... suggested setting:
a. boost 120 Hz - fullness
b. boost 200-250 Hz - boom
c. boost 5 kHz - presence
d. boost 7.5-10 kHz - sibilance
e. boost 2.5-3.5 kHz - for lead vocals
compressor (utk kawal dynamic between input paling tinggi ngan rendah)
a. attack: as fast as possible
b. release: 0.5 second
c. ratio: 4:1-8:1
gate (utk cut off sound yang bawah threshold)
reverb
- biasenye aku pakai mode yang ade kat situ - concert hall 1
setting EQ kat atas tuh sume aku amik dari buku... tapi depends kat vokalis tuh punye suare jugak.. sometimes setting tuh ok..
kekdang ade jugak aku tgk yang pakai delay kat vokal... best jugak... especially kat part chorus ... huhu!! maybe aku akan eksperimen nanti...
pasal distance mic ngan mulut .. kalau vokalis tuh suara lantang (rock!!!!)aku akan suruh jauh kan mic skit .. then.. kalau suara slow aku suruh dekat .... itu jek teori aku... hehe!! pasal kalau suara kuat mic die dekat... bunyi akan jadi noisy nanti... tuh experience aku la...
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| Ridzi |
| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Hmnnnnnn aku tak pernah record vocal betul2...kena try Criedbaby punya suggestion ni....
Thanks dude
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: waaa |
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| GryMlock |
| Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| theFlyingElk |
| Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, i got this from Sam at the rollingeye forum and its for anyone who are willing to try anything out. I intend to do this as soon as i get my PC back. Opinions?
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and record the vocals in a small room (try not to have much reverb in the room) and then once done add some reverb & chorus(minimum) to it and make the vocal stand out more then add effect use a bit of delay and not forgetting always use compressor
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| afiqme |
| Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: waaa |
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realtime aku tak sure.. tapi aku apply lepas record... hehe!!
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