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| soundfreak22nd |
 Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: string karat |
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hello guys,
ade problem ngan strings aku ni, cepat sangat nak karat, tenshen plak aku..
aku gune dadario 0.09.. 2 minggu main dah karat gle..
eventho aku sapu ghs fast fret tiap ari..
u guys ade problem camni gak ke? |
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Tali carat.
1. maybe tangan engko jenis selalu berpeloh. So nyebab tali guitar kene peloh. Kalo jenis tangan kering mesti bahagia punya. kering poket jer tak berapa bahagia.
- aku tak pakai fast fret tapi setiap kali aku pegang neck guitar dah tentu aku sapu minyak johnson kat tangan dulu. sebab kurang skit tangan nak berpeloh. jgn buat benda lain dah lerr... hehehe.
- Dlm peloh ader garam [sebab tu masin... heheheh], kalo kering pun dia kat tali guitar akan jadi hablor kat situ. And hablor +ve akan sentiasa cuba tarik partical air dari udara then partical air akan bertindakbalas dengan nikel plated kat tali guitar. Then jadi la karat.
2. tempat simpan dan suhu persekitaran.
- kengkadang kita letak guitar kat kuar jer bertengek kat guitar stand.
- tapi kengkadang bilik kelembapan tinggi sebabnya tak pernah kene matahari. tingkap tak pernah buka. angin tak gerak. Dekat dengan bilik mandi or wash room pun biasa nyebab kelembapan bilik bertambah.
- atau kawasan rumah tu adalah kawasan kadar oksida tinggi, letak duit syilling kat luar pun boleh karat. Rumah kat bekas tapak lupus sampah.
- kalo simpan dalam hardcase or soft case pastikan softcase bebetul kering. Dan ader letak silicon utk serap kelembapan.
- aku ader satu softcase yang memang selalu mengjahanamkan tali guitar setiap kali pakai. skali masuk, sehari pas tu sure karat.
- kalo bilik or kocker or almari letak guitar tu lembap sangat. letak lah testy hippo ker kasih serap kembapan skit.
3. jenis tali.
- biasa ader nickel, steel or bronze.
- biasanya stainless steel biasa tahan lama berbanding yang lain.
- bronze pun tahan juga, cuma nikel memang capat karat.
4. Arus electrik
Selalu lah main guitar tu, sure tali tak karat.
- memang la sebab itu jari dahgosok semua karat.
- Sebanar nya ada sebab lain.
- Semua benda conduktor electrik seperti besi dan aper aper jer benda yang boleh teroksida akan susah utk berkarat kalo ada arus electrik melaluinya. Tapi bila tiada arus electrik mengalir , ia akan berkarat dengan kadar yang lebih cepat dari biasa. Sebab tu kalo barang electronic yang jarang dipakai akan cepat rosak sebenarnya akibat karat. Lebih kurang cam tu lah, tak larat nak diterang sampai ker ceta electron dan atom... hehhehehe.
5. Beli lah tali tali yang vakum pack.
- sebab kalo dah ader carat skit maka makin cepat lah tali tu karat.
- aku tak suka pakai tali dalam beg paper jer.
- Selalu lah beli kat kedai yang memang banyak orang beli kat situ. supaya stock sentiasa baru. kalo beli kat kedai yang jarang orang datang maybe tali tu dah tua dok menunggu orang beli dia... hahhaha.
6. Sentiasa pastikan semua part lain tak karat, macam bridge, saddle, locking nut, head machine. Sebab kalo ader satu benda karat ia kan menyebabkan benda lain yang tak karat jadi cepat karat.
7, pickup magnet semamang nya punca segala karat. pasal magnet adalah pemangkin oksida yang terror. So pasatikan pickup berminyak pun tak per. Sebab tu orang tak suka letak magnet punya stiker kat peti ais. Nanti cepat karat plak peti ais tu.
8. Try lap la skit tali dengan minyak macam petroleum jelly vaseline. Carik la memana lubrican utk guitar... hahhaha. biasa aku pakai minyak vaseline sebagai minyak griss guitar utk part skrew floyd rose blade n saddle or nut kerana minyak ne tak toksid. Carik jer kat gardian or watson ader jual... hehehhe.
7. tukar ler tali selalu, aku biasa sebulan sekali, bukan pasal karat tapi sebab dah haus dok asik berlaga dengan fret. Dah mula kopak ne sebab guitar dah bertambah... hehehhe
P/s mana pergi org kat iband ne aaaaa... sunyi sepi per seminggu ne...
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| soundfreak22nd |
| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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thanks ultraman cosmo..
aku tuka tali ni kdg2 2 minggu skali coz prblem ni..
duit pun bnyk klua..
tali aku karat kat neck je, kat tmpt struming/picking tak pulak..
fast fret tu pun kuning je sbb salu sangat sapu karat tu..hahaha..
maybe tgn ni kuat bploh kot..
kne pakai bedak la b4 main ni.. hihihi.. |
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| khairold |
| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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ni apa yang aku buat la
mmg tak pro cara aku ni la tapi ok je untuk aku
setiap kali sebelum dan selepas main aku lap tali
lap guna kain je
kalau jamming kene lap banyak sikit
and dah lepas 1 jam camtu lap lagi sbb jamming selalu extra peluh
dalam guitar case aku letak silica gel |
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| cartman, eric |
| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:44 am Post subject: |
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ni perkara2 yg aku buat.
1- aku x tukar tali tapi aku pakai kertas pasir, kasi gosok itu tali, kasi buang itu karat... 
kalo tukar pon dlm 3 bulan sekali la...
bila tali tu baru tahan 1 hingga 1bulan stgh sblum start karat.
tali 1,2,3 la yg slalu karat, but masalah nya, kalo dah start guna kertas pasir, kena maintain la, dlm seminggu at least 2 kali kena gosok kertas pasir dan juga bergantung kpd kekerapan main gitar.
2- pakai lemon oil...fast fret mahal, dan stik tu mcm x cukup berminyak.
so aku pakai lemon oil utk basahkan stik FastFret. mcm refill la...
3- lepas main gitar, gosok ngn kain, terutamanya underside of the string (bgh yg bersentuhan ngn fret) sbb kotoran mmg berkumpul kat situ
4- letak silica pakets dlm gig bag @ hardcase.
bkn aku rekomen la, tp ini yg aku buat...works for me...
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| fReqZz |
| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:18 am Post subject: |
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yeah...
for me..
1. aku pk lemon oil tu.. setiap kali be4 ang after main gitar..
2. check ko punya string, my personal choice is those in vaccum pack.. samaada gibson 18 bucks tu or fender bullet..
3. dont play after ur taking a shower/ or sweating.. even kalo ko rs ko dah kering pun.. sbb tapak tangan ni sbnrnya lambat kering.. spare an hour dulu..
4. selalu la lap string tu.. the back side... the one that hitting the fret.. situ mmg byk daki2 yg terkumpul...
5. lastly.. mmg la kena tukau string slalu.. even after one gig to another pun...
hope that help..
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| MiN |
| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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aku kalau nak main gitar selalu cuci tangan dulu....
dan jugak tak payah la nak guna fastfret tuh.....die pun boleh kasi tali berkarat.
ko nak guna fastfret tu untuk aper?? nak supaya main lagi laju ker?? kwekwekwkekwek
tapi tali memang sepatutnya kerap kali tukar la.....cuma budget jer yg restrict....tapi kalau sebulan sekali tukar tu pun memadai ler.....tapi kalau org selalu main gitar 2 minggu sekali memang average la.... |
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| okta |
| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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lemon oil tu dapat dari mane ye?
rupe cam mane?> |
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| soundfreak22nd |
| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ko nak guna fastfret tu untuk aper?? nak supaya main lagi laju ker?? kwekwekwkekwek |
hahaha.. aku main tak laju pun min..
aku gune nak wipe daki2 lpas main.. tp tak setel gak.. nanti la try advice2 yg korang bg ni.. thanks  |
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| opethbleed555 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: Lord Of the Rusty Strings |
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heheh.kite kire geng ar. usually excessive sweating on the hands is called weeping eczema.aku pun sakit hati gak tp methods2 aku nie tahan la skit strings 2
1.basuh tangan elok2 sebelum main
2.Aku lap strings 2 dgn Kyser String cleaner/lubricant sebelum dan selepas main yg bleh didapati di The Guitar Store dgn harga RM 16.90
3.Selalu highest strings 2 yg cepat berkarat jd belilah extra 1-2 utk menyenangkan hidup anda
4.Get those Elixir Anti-Rust Strings about RM 38.00 from Guitar Collection or Guitar Store.It last longer with these strings
At first it was quite a problem 4 me but i can live with it. Sebulan atau dua bulan tuka la string baru.Old strings means low clarity and brightness. |
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| ZiNK |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| cartman, eric |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| MiN wrote: | | ...aku kalau nak main gitar selalu cuci tangan dulu.... |
ha ni pon penting...
| ZiNK wrote: | | okta wrote: | lemon oil tu dapat dari mane ye?
rupe cam mane?> |
lemon oil bleh dibeli di kedai
rupe die cam ni :
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masalahnye geng, disebabkan die letak brand Dunlop tu besa gampang kat botol die,
harge pon mcm gampang la...
x silap aku RM40++...
aku beli lemon oil kat hardware store.botol 230ml, just under Rm15
refill kat fastfret, works like a charm...
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| silbi |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| silica gel nak beli kat mana pulak? |
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| khairold |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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silica gel beli kat kedai kasut.. hehe
tapi seriously aku punye silica gel semua nya dari kasut aku
tak pon org lain beli kasut aku mintak kat diorang |
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| cartman, eric |
| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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aku dapat silica packs aku from my sis,
die dulu keje kat Chem Lab.
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