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| randy_rhoads |
 Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: whats ur opinion?effect? |
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Hi,
saya mau tanya sikit la pasal effect zoom G2 n G2.1u. sesiapa yang pernah guna atau belum dan pendapat anda tentang effect ni.
1) ok ke effect zoom ni? sebab pernah guna member nya zoomgfx5 bunyik dia mcm fake sket le(my opinion le)..hehe ..no offence. mana lagi best gfx5 ke G2 n G2.1u?
2) berapa harga G2 n G2.1u di pasaran? kedai mana ada jual?
3) mana lagi best G2 ke G2.1u?
4) boleh dapat tone randy rhoads ke kalo pakai zoom G2 or G2.1u? sebab randy rhoads pakai mxr.. jadi mana le tau gode gode effect tu dapat lak tone randy rhoads.he he.
jadi harap harap u guys dapat give ur opinion. tapi kalo pakai mxr distortion+ pon cun jugak tapi terhad sikit dari multieffect ni. dan yang paling memikat zoom g2 g21u ni ada bunyi amp mesa boogie, marshall dan lain lain.. pergh.. harap harap tak bunyi fake sgt le.. hehe ...thanks!
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| ZiNK |
| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| randy_rhoads |
| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: aiseh |
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aiseh, takde sambutan la...he he ... bro zid pls la jawab lu pakai zoom g2.1u kan? ada jugak baca thread yg lepas lepas psl zoom product ni..hehe amcam best ke tak bro? 
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| cartman, eric |
| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: aiseh |
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| randy_rhoads wrote: | | aiseh, takde sambutan la...he he ... bro zid pls la jawab lu pakai zoom g2.1u kan? ada jugak baca thread yg lepas lepas psl zoom product ni..hehe amcam best ke tak bro? |
sabar geng... the dude uses his office internet connection...
so check this topic on monday.... 
till then..... isi masa lapang...
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| randy_rhoads |
| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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hehe...tak sabar pulak  ... ok.
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| ultraman_cosmo |
| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Aha, monday pagi pagi sure dia reply.
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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aku cuba jawab la ye.... memandangkan aku dah pakai G2.1u ni sejak beberapa bulan yang lalu.
Well i think most asian pakai zoom sebab harga dia agak reasonable dengan quality yang ada... sesetangah user akan kata sound Zoom very typical antara satu effect ngan satu effect lain especially drive ngan distortion dia..... ini terjadi kat most zoom, tapi kalau pandai mengadjust equalizer dia, problem ni boleh dimininumkan. Still, the G2.1u punya effect variety dah cukup banyak dan economic, i mean apa effect yang orang biasa pakai pun ada. Then aku tak dapat komen pasal GFX5, sebab tak pernah try, but antara G2 ngan G2.1u, aku pilih G2.1u sebab ada expression pedal yang boleh bagi aku punya effect lebih dynamic dan lebih LIVE. Even aku suggest kat my friend to pakai this type of effect.
Harga display sebijik G2.1u adalah Rm590 in most kedai, but ada yang display lebih mahal atau lebih murah. But try push down the price waktu beli, I think boleh dapat as low as Rm520. REmember it is not come with adaptor. MOst kedai ada jual G2.1u, yang aku dah jumpa is Bentley, CK Music, Wohfatt, Do Re MI, Yamaha(Ampang Point dan T Melawati)
Then AKu tak tahu sound rhandy rhodes macam mana, so aku tak leh nak comment yang tu, but pilihan distortion/overdrive ada 18 choice dari bunyik clean sampai la yang HEavy metal, and dia ada simulate sound distort Marshall, Mesa boogie, PEavey, Boss OD-1, Guvnor, MEtalZone and a few more.
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:04 am Post subject: |
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hmm nasib baik ada org tolong jawabkan.. thanx Otaizam!
cuma aku nak add a few komen la.. aku dulu pernah pakai GFX-5.. despite the cool looks, nice features, etc, tapi soundwise amat mengecewakan.. drive module amat nipis, tweak la mcm mana sekali pon, mcm hampeh je bunyinye!
on the other hand, the Zoom G-series punya drive dah improve, distortion quite ok la (walau pon tak beberapa close to the real sound yg di tiru).. mmg la sound dia "fake" pasal dia immitate sound amp / distortion box dr product lain  ...
kalau hang nak pakai banyak effects yg versatile dan murah, G2 is the answer. Tapi kalau pentingkan distortion / overdrive sound yg bagus, better beli POD from Line 6.
Tapi dgn budget yg aku ada pada masa tu, aku beli G2.1u sbb dia lebih versatile, compact (senang bawak gi show), dan drive sound berada pada tahap "boleh lah"... kalau aku ada banyak duit, aku tak beli menatang nih! 
actually, sound sedap/tak ni bergantung pada taste ko sendiri.. kalau aku kata best, TAK semetinya org lain pun kata best. begitu jugak sebaliknya. sebelum aku beli G2.1u ni, aku gi test Tech 21 Tri-AC kat JS Music.. sebuah distortion box yg dikatakan boleh immitate sound Marshall, Fender dan Mesa-Boogie dgn 100% analog signal solution.. tapi dah puas aku test, tweak, etc selama sejam.. aku tak puas hati.. then aku gi CK Music, godek2 beberapa minit, dah terus melekat! hahaha camne tu? maybe aku punya "taste" tak standard kot?
the best solution is: pegi test sendiri, baru tau... aku pon tak tau sound Randy Rhoads mcm mana! hehe
p/s: aku tak suka Ozzy sbb dia sabotaj Iron Maiden punya show tahun lepas! hahaha.. 
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| Otaizam |
| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | kalau aku ada banyak duit, aku tak beli menatang nih!
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He he hhe.... aku pun, kalau aku ada duit banyak aku dah pakai GT8 atau paling tidak G7 kot, he he he.....
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| fReqZz |
| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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kalo banyak duit... analog all the way.. huhu...
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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analog boleh coz takde duit sgt pakai behringer analog stompox je la...dgn rm500 boleh ler lepas 3 biji stombox + 1 biji wah....hehe...plastic keras tu...tak pecah punye ko pijak kuat2...jgn ko buat stunt bungee jumping dgn tu dah la. Behringer punye copy boss sound memang brilliant aku rasa...
anybody pernah nampak behringer punye Octaver pedal tak jual mana2?
gua tarak duit gak...tapi pasal dah kumpul lama barang2 ni..la ni beranak2 dah effect aku. aku lagi ler...di samping stombox cheapo aku, aku pakai zoom 707II je...tu pun dah macam terlebih-2 effect je aku rasa...tapi sound dia beza giler dgn analog...
and the amp you use plays an important role as well. to me, sometimes strangely i find my zoom produces better sound that a metal zone - depending on the amp used.
zid - aku ingat zoom gfx5 dah ok pasal rupa dia macho siot...and maybe nak cari yg sekehen punye, tapi lepas baca reply kau tu...aku rasa tak jadi nak cari ler kot...maybe i'll just wait for a cheaper (hopefully) G2.1u next year ke...
btw - G2.1u ni ada usb tu kan? hmmm....interesting. ada built in drum machine tak? best oo ada drum machine...boleh layan rave party sorang2...kekeke... |
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| randy_rhoads |
| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: oo |
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thanks bro otaizam n dreadzid n semua...oo mcm tuu... jadi g2.1u nye version lagi baik dr gfx5...erm.. itula gfx5 nye distortion ada kureng sket... lagi satu sound eric johson tuh(member punya gfx5)... nak tergelak pon ada dengar.... sebenarnya dah byk baca review kat harmony central n lain lain tapi ni saje nak dengar pendapat rakyat malaysia sendiri.. hehe..
bole dengar sound rhoads kat sini :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AREPc43kXrA
g2.1u bleh dapat ke tone mcm ni? heh...sedap la tone dia dlm lagu ni...dia guna gitar polka dot n mxr effect. lagu lain dia pakai gitar lain tapi effect sama.erm...
kenapa anda semua tidak minat rhandy rhoads? hehe ... tahukah anda dia pernah mempengaruhi malmsteen, paul gilbert, john petrucci, alexi laiho dan jutaan gitaris di seluruh dunia dlm masa yang singkat, cuba anda pikir sekiranya dia masih hidup mungkin lebih hebat dari john petrucci, steve vai dan lain lain... hehe!!!
gi sini: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhandy_Rhoads
p/s: hehe... iron maiden juga penah kutuk ozzy sebab gigit kepala kelawar. hehe..si ozzy tu kekadang tak betul le..hahaha tapi yg ramai gitaris yg terkenal main ngan band tu..
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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tapi kan bro.. aku rasa Randy tak pakai gadget2 kecik mcm mxr tu.. dia mesti pakai drive sound straight dari amp marshall kat belakang tu.. kalau pakai stompbox pon maybe just utk boost solo je kot? entah aku memandai je nih ehehe...
belambak amp modeller dipasaran skarang yg offer tone mcm Marshall tu, cuma sebijik ke tak je... kalau nak close to the real thing, maybe boleh try POD la, ada mcm2 jenis model amp Marshall yg dia simulate. G2.1u pon ada simulate Marshall punya amp, tapi model JCM800 dgn JCM2000 je la...
tapi perlu diingat! kengkadang bile kita test gadget ni kat kedai, sound dia best giler sampai kita rasa mcm nak beli 10 bijik.. tapi bila bawak balik rumah, sound dia menghampakan... sbb setiap amp tak sama character dia.. so ko kena experimen dgn banyak amp utk dapatkan tone yg ko cari..
kenapa org tak minat Randy Rhoads? silap tu.. aku rasa ada yg minat cuma ko tak jumpa je kot? hehe (aku tak minat laa).. mmg la dia mempengaruhi banyak gitaris2 handalan di dunia, tapi benda ni subjektif.. sbg contoh: aku minat METALLICA, tapi tak semestinya aku minat band2 yg menjadi influence mereka spt "Misfits" dan "Anti-Nowhere League".. betui tak?
anyway Zoom baru release product baru.. basically it's a hybrid of G2 + 505II = Zoom G1 heheh... murah skit kot?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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kenapa tak beli terus MXR Distortion + mcm Randy pakai tu? Harga lagi murah dari zoom punya multieffect tu..
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| randy_rhoads |
| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: 000 |
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thanks again bro... sebenarnya nak cuba multieffect je utk praktis..kalo dpt tone rhoads, atau lebih kurang pon, satu bonus..hehe..mungkin patut cuba le g2.1u ni... dia punya design buat hati ini terpikat ko memang da bomb..ngeh ngeh ngeh!!! yup, randy rhoads punya tone byk dtg dari amp...ada baca dlm web lain camne setting sound dia...dia guna minimum distortion kat stompbox n guna amp punya distortion..lebih kurang cam tuh le..hehe! ( sendiri pon tak tau) .
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