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	i-bands.net [READ ONLY MODE] Forum Index » Guitar Talk » camna nak pijak stompbox banyak2 simultaneously...    Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next  camna nak pijak stompbox banyak2 simultaneously... « View previous topic :: View next topic »  Author Message silbi Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: camna nak pijak stompbox banyak2 simultaneously... Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 843 ->aku copyfrom post aku kat jamtank <_ got a silly query... say if u are performing live with a vast array of analog single unit stompboxes... and then u wanna do this solo that should have all these sound elements - 'distortion + delay + chorus + EQ + wah + octaver + pitch shifter' all at the same time... how do u step on all these pedals simultaneously without losing the beat for the solo?? heck - i can't imagine stepping at all these 7 effects at the same time? so how to deal with this? thx! Back to top omarjamaludin Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Site Admin Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 2615 Location: Tmn Melawati do a body dive like the wrestler do? hehe.. smackdown! _________________ my photoblog - http://sigemok.blogspot.com Back to top silbi Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 843 haha...i can imagine that. Tapi ultimate fighter lagi best siot! or mtv's 'final fu'... back to my stupid query - korang pijak2 camne? tapi dancing tak leh...pasal tu pijak satu2...ni sume sekali camno Back to top ultraman_cosmo Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Mod Squad Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 1665 Location: Mines resort city Soluttion nya, korang kene ada loop box. AB box or AB-Y Box Macam yang si deadzid buat dulu, ingat tak draki box or somthing that. Aku ambik contoh LS2 boss. Dia ada 2 channel A dan B. ada banyak mode A>B or A+B or A saja or B saja. Tapi yang soalan ne adalah A<>B. maksudnya dari cHanal A change to chanel B. Cara dia, katalah kita set chanel A utk clean sound. Send A > comp > chorus > return A DAn utk dirty chanel B Send B > distortion > flanger> return B Then kita ON kesemua pedal tu bior lampo nyala. bila kita berada kat chanel A signal akan bypass semua efect dari chanel B dan sebaliknya. so dari pijak on off semua pedal tu kita just pijak satu pedal jer la. More example kata la kita ada wah dan nak main utk kedua chenel tu. Guitar > wah > LS-2 > go amp. pedal lain just connect to LS-2. so both chennel boleh main wah Or u have a Reverb pedal yang sesuai utk both chennel... so Guitar>wah>LS-2> reverb> amp. somthing like that. Try download LS-2 nyer manual sure akan faham. http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/_support/om.cfm?ln=en&dsp=0&iCncd=303&iStcd=4 Utk effect yang lebih komplex biasa akan ada looper spt rack tapi kita kawal guna midi footswitch. kita panggil bus looper. Search google or guitar pedal switching or looper or ABY box. more options http://www.voodoolab.com/switcher.htm http://www.tonebone.com/re-bigshot-aby.htm http://www.morleypedals.com/daby.html http://www.voodoolab.com/commander.htm http://www.amptone.com/#switching http://www.amptone.com/switchers.htm#moreprods http://www.snarlingdogs.com/ crossroad Banyak sebenarnya... kebanyakan brand pedal biasa ada buat loop pedal ABY biasanya. Have nice dayy. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore And Now all jazz. Back to top silbi Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 843 thx.. aku faham ler sikit...tapi ni sume still kena set dulu grouping2 effects pedal tu kan...and still kena on sume pedals tu...nak on still kena pijak banyak2 jugak ler kan...haha...(but pijak at our own time convenience ler...) aku rasa pakai loopingtu takat satu dua lagu senang kot...tapi kalau nak apply to banyak2 lagu yd sume lagu different combo of effects needed, sure pening sikit? betui tak? btw - aku pernah tgk band Seven Collar ke amende ntah pakai effect banyak giler...tapi lagu tak seberapa pun...hehe.. (ooops...sori sapa peminat). Tapi aku tak usha pulak dia pijak2 camno effects tu...nanti lain kalai ada masa gua usha... still...multi effects algi senang kot... Back to top ultraman_cosmo Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Mod Squad Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 1665 Location: Mines resort city Utk rack effect yang ada patch dia, biasa orang control guna midi foot control. Midi foot control boleh simpan patches sampai 100 pun ada. tapi kene pakai midi programming nak setkan. A bit komplex dan payah nak diterangkan kat sini. konsep dia sama, kalo utk switch dari A ker B kita pakai kaki, tapi utk ne kita guna midi foot switch utk tukar dari chenel A to B maybe CDEFG... Kalo custom switching kita bukan jer boleh buat AB>Y tapi ABCDEFG...Z>Y. maybe problem kene pakai 2 pedal yang sama sebab lain amount level or vriable. The basic is AB>Y box. even sebenarnya aby box digunakan utk split guitar effect head amp or cabinet. banyak juga kegunanan. Paling penting bagi aku adalah ABy box ne paling bagus utk head to head comparision antara 2 pedal. katakan DS-1 dan DS-2 . senang nak bezakan bunyi dia. Antara yang paling penting juga adalah bila kita group pedal, signal kita tak akan melalui pedal yang tak perlu pada masa tu. pedal yang tak true bypass biasanya kill tone dari guitar. Contohnya lebih dari 7 pedal boss sederet akan hasilkan signal yang lemah dan kurang solid. Tapi grouping plak akan hasilkan banyak cable. so kene pakai cable yang bagus dan sependik yang boleh. Antara problem ABY box ne adalah bunyi pop masa switching. biasanya switching guna keadah Diod or transistor akan elakan bunyi pop tapi akan sedut sikit tone guitar. semuanya ada good n kontra dia. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore And Now all jazz. Back to top Dufresne Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 190 ultraman_cosmo wrote: Utk rack effect yang ada patch dia, biasa orang control guna midi foot control.Midi foot control boleh simpan patches sampai 100 pun ada. tapi kene pakai midi programming nak setkan. Boleh set preset sampai 128, standard Midi preset on one channel. Supposibly standard Midi ade 16 channels, so kira sendiri la bape byk preset. Aku x pernah sampai byk mcm tu la, 128 tu pon dah penat nak igt suma preset. Silbi... Kena tap dance la, huhu... Anyway, kalo nak senang la, better pakai multi fx je, sbb byk sgt fx tu nak on one single stomp. Kalo x nak, pakai AB box, or line selector, group suma pedals tu on 1 side, switch on suma, select loop lain. Nak pakai loop/group yg ade fx tu, select that loop... Cheers... _________________ My Band My Rig Back to top kurt_maisu Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 499 tap dancing is great for your health....pakai multiefx dalam rig pun boleh jugak...keh2..pakai rack ke ... _________________ my rig 25/7/10- monsterpiece npn fuzz proco rat 2 danelectro fab tone behringer gd121 (mesa mode ) behringer vibrato ibanez tonelok phaser line 6 dl4 kaoss pad 2 facebook :- maisuismaisu chech our myspace site :- myspace.com/bunyibising Back to top okta Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Mod Squad Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 1139 Location: Taiping http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=8873 Back to top Dufresne Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 190 Yup, G-System...awesome stuff. Definitely on my list...tp mahal sgt lerrr... Cheers... _________________ My Band My Rig Back to top Bode Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 2033 Dufresne wrote: ultraman_cosmo wrote: Utk rack effect yang ada patch dia, biasa orang control guna midi foot control.Midi foot control boleh simpan patches sampai 100 pun ada. tapi kene pakai midi programming nak setkan. Boleh set preset sampai 128, standard Midi preset on one channel. Supposibly standard Midi ade 16 channels, so kira sendiri la bape byk preset. Aku x pernah sampai byk mcm tu la, 128 tu pon dah penat nak igt suma preset. Silbi... Kena tap dance la, huhu... Anyway, kalo nak senang la, better pakai multi fx je, sbb byk sgt fx tu nak on one single stomp. Kalo x nak, pakai AB box, or line selector, group suma pedals tu on 1 side, switch on suma, select loop lain. Nak pakai loop/group yg ade fx tu, select that loop... Cheers... He he Silbi...Happy Feet lah brader! Betul tu Dufresne...kalau dah banyak sangat baik angkat multi fx jer. I realised the time for me to get my 1st multifx was when the no. of pedals came up to 7. It was a bitch to step onmore than 2 at a time...plus I always wished that I can change the tone/eq with diff settings as well. Back to top Bode Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 2033 Dufresne wrote: Yup, G-System...awesome stuff. Definitely on my list...tp mahal sgt lerrr... Cheers... Dufresne...jual la kat aku MP-1 tu dgn harga yg amat murah... Back to top Dufresne Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 190 Bode wrote: I realised the time for me to get my 1st multifx was when the no. of pedals came up to 7. It was a bitch to step onmore than 2 at a time...plus I always wished that I can change the tone/eq with diff settings as well. Hehe... Dulu kat DoReMi ade jual this really small connector for stompboxes, pendek giler. Bende tu x de cable langsung pon, dia actually 1/4 inch plug welded to another 1/4 inch plug. So i used a few of those, biler susun all the pedals in one row, blh stomp 3 pedals serentak, big achievment tu, hehe... Cheers... _________________ My Band My Rig Back to top Dufresne Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 190 Bode wrote: Dufresne...jual la kat aku MP-1 tu dgn harga yg amat murah... Sorry Doc, cannot. I bought that thing pon dgn harga yg ridiculously murah. But if i can get a few more MP-1, or something similar, maybe la, hehe... Cheers... _________________ My Band My Rig Back to top ultraman_cosmo Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Mod Squad Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 1665 Location: Mines resort city Quote: Boleh set preset sampai 128, standard Midi preset on one channel. Supposibly standard Midi ade 16 channels, so kira sendiri la bape byk preset. Aku x pernah sampai byk mcm tu la, 128 tu pon dah penat nak igt suma preset. Yes, 128 standard midi. _________________ Maiden, loudness, ACDC, black sabath, deep purple, jimmi and vinnie moore And Now all jazz. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First     Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next Page 1 of 3 i-bands.net [READ ONLY MODE] Forum Index » Guitar Talk » camna nak pijak stompbox banyak2 simultaneously... 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