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jeeli
PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: macamana nak adjust FR ni ... Reply with quote



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salam ... mcmana nak adjust Fr ni dah senget ... huhu ..



tgk sadle2 ok tak ....



lepas tuko tali trus jd mcm tuh ... ke aku salah tuko tali ? ... aku bukak semua , patu pasang balik ... lama2 fr tuh senget .. aku pon tak pki tremolo tuh ...

bule guide kan aku mcmna cara2 tuko tali bridge fr ni ? ... aku tau main syok sendiri jer ... adjust2 ni tak reti ... huhu

tgk tali no 3 dgn 4 ... sama sz .. cipan tul la .. hihi ..
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Aku tak faham apa maksud ko senget.

Tapi kalau ko maksudkan bridge ko terjongket, berikut adalah penyelesaiannya.


Sebab terjadi

Situasi begini terjadi mungkin 2 sebab:
1) ko tukar string brand lain
2) ko tukar string brand sama tapi gauge lain

Kedua2 sebab ni menjadikan tensi tali berubah dan akibatnya bridge ko pun berubah kedudukan.

tapi rilex.. tak ada ap nak dirisaukan

Solusi

Adjust spring kat belakang body. Ketatkan skru yang memegang spring tu supaya spring tu dapat menarik bridge ke bawah dgn lebih kuat.

Bila dah pusing skru tu, tuning akan lari, jadi tak perlu pusing skru tu sampai bridge tu level. Tune dulu dan tgk, masih terjongkot atau tak. Kalau masih terjongket, baru pusing skru tu dengan lebih dalam, then tune string balik.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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seelok2nya masa ko tukar string tu...ko tahan la guna sudu ke,apa2 yg rata...ko tahan bridge tu bg separas dgn body....ko phm xx ap ak ckpp ni?? ak tkot ko x phm.....sng....ko tgk la ni...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1c-7-VMY_w
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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tukar string satu persatu...jgn buka semua...pastu baru nak pasang...

kalau bole tak pakai tremolo tuh...beli guitar fix bridge...settle Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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izzi - masa aku pki ernie ball .. ok tak de masalah ... aku lupa mcmna cara aku tuko masa tuh ,,, rasanya aku bukak satu persatu ... bila tuko balik Daddario .. aku tanggalkan semua , pastuh baru pasang blik ... Fr tuh aku cuma hold guna tremolo jer ... nak kasik tegak ... lelama tuning larik2 .. lelama aku perasan Fr tuh terjongket ... tremolo pon aku tak guna .. tak pandai la .. huhu ... Laughing
sz gauge tak berubah .. aku guna sama sz ... brand jer lain2 ..

salammm - ok aku paham ... nti try bukak balik ... aku ikut dlm video tuh ...

jiro - tuh la aku rasa mcm salah tuko .. huu ... fix bridge ? mcm dlm gambo avatar tuh ker ? ... huhu .. mahai tuh ... huhu
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kalau tak guna tremolo.. ko sendal something kat tremolo block (kat belakang)... pastu spring bleh edjas secukup rasa pasal dah ade blocker tu.. contohnya pakai betri 9v...
tapi jangan lupa loggarkan tali sebelum sendal...

then retune balik...

kalau nak lagi detail.. tunggu eniqma korek thread dari encik Ultraman KOSMO... dia ada penah terangkan ari tu kat thread sebelum ni...

btw.. camne ko tahu saiz 3 & 4 sama?
kaler same ker?
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http://www.i-bands.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2637
- nasib naik gua pernah tulis sekali.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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ETERNAL wrote:
kalau tak guna tremolo.. ko sendal something kat tremolo block (kat belakang)... pastu spring bleh edjas secukup rasa pasal dah ade blocker tu.. contohnya pakai betri 9v...
tapi jangan lupa loggarkan tali sebelum sendal...

then retune balik...

kalau nak lagi detail.. tunggu eniqma korek thread dari encik Ultraman KOSMO... dia ada penah terangkan ari tu kat thread sebelum ni...

btw.. camne ko tahu saiz 3 & 4 sama?
kaler same ker?

ahhaa .. kaler nya sama .. aku belek2 , mmg sama beso ... korang pernah terkena ker ? ...

tq ultraman ... aku cari topik ni tak jumpa lak ... ke kilas pandangan aku salah ... huhu
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tak penah plak... cuma tali 3 & 4 is obviously different...
kalau kaler same lagi la tak leh blah.. hahaha..
apsal tak tukar baru..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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huhu abg cosmo dah korek thread dia sendiri...
jeeli huhu tensen kan pakai FR...tp boleh counter bila da biasa...
kalo ko main gitar FR tp tak guna sgt divebomb, cricket etc...better ko blockkan aje...ko sendal jer...biar dia level pastu ko block...nk tukar tali senang...sume senang...huhuhuh
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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aku dah bikin balik ... ada silap skit .. baca tak abih posting ultraman ... aku tak longgarkan spring tremolo tu ... takut larik makin teruk ... aku skip step2 tuh ... problem masa nk kluarkan bateri tuh ... aku rentap skit .. tuning semua larik balik ... 1note larik ... bila aku ikat blik kat head .. makin terjongket fr ....
2 kali aku ulang balik pon sama jugak .. kat sejam lbh ... temparary dulu ... aku sendal getah pemadam anak aku ... jadikan fix bridge dulu ... penat nk layan .. tak de masa ... tunggu la aku spent kan masa 3 jam dulu nti ... gi tido ..
smbung besok wat ... huhu ..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Bro,

Kalau bridge ko tu termasuk ke dalam... baru la cerita nak sendal ke apa, ini bridge ko dah terjongket, sendal pun tarak guna la bro.

Apa yg ko perlu buat, cuma ko kena tarik bridge tu supaya dia makin ke dalam hingga sama rata dgn body. Cara nak tarik tu, ko cuma ketatkan skru spring kat belakang body tu supaya spring tu semakin menarik bridge tu.. jgn ko longgarkan pulak skru tu. Kalau ko longgar makin terjongket la bridge ko..

jgn lupa ko kena release dulu nut, jgn lock dulu.
masa ko tarik spring tu nnt, tuning ko jadi makin meninggi, so ko kena tune balik then tgk bridge ko dah sama rata ke belum dgn body. Kalau masih terjongket, benamkan lagi skru ke dalam.

Ko punya problem ni disebabkan ko tukar brand string, tension tak sama. Ko sendal la mcmana pun, kalau tension string baru ko ni lagi tinggi, dia tetap terjongket.

Jgn lupa tune string yg guna floyd rose kena selang seli atas bawah.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Selagi tak tunning guna spring, itu floyd rose takan ballance.
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ultraman_cosmo wrote:
Selagi tak tunning guna spring, itu floyd rose takan ballance.


a'ah la...bro mcm ne nak tentukan bilangan spring kat blakang tu ar...
ikut string gauge jugak kan?
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eniQma wrote:
ultraman_cosmo wrote:
Selagi tak tunning guna spring, itu floyd rose takan ballance.


a'ah la...bro mcm ne nak tentukan bilangan spring kat blakang tu ar...
ikut string gauge jugak kan?


Sebenarnya ikut suka hati la nak pakai 3 ker 4 or 5 spring.
- Biasanya lagi banyak spring lagi stabil floyd rose tersebut.
- cuma kalo terlalu banyak spring payah la nak buat dive bomb.
- tapi bending rasa macam fixed bridge.
- kemungkinan itu whammy bar patah tu tinggi la... hehehehehe

Start la pakai 3 spring.
- kalo dah skrew temolo dah pulas sampai abis pun still tak boleh nak ballance bridge fr pada tuning anda, makna kena tambah satu lagi spring laa.
- Cuma kekuatan 3 spring ne berbeza la ikut jenis spring, size, bridge dan length caviti tremolo.
- Aku suka 3 spring sebab senang skit nak hayun whammy bar.
- cuma nak bending tu tak sesenang bending fixed bridge laaa.
- 3 spring paling cun kalo nak buat flutter.
- kalo fr flutter pendek = spring dah nak mampusss.
- So ganti la spring kereta or honda EX5.

pasal nak buat spring tu shape V ker W or selari jer tu no komen.
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