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| Jiro |
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asasnya, Alquran, hadis dan juga tafsiran n ulasan ulama yang berautoriti dalam bidang tafsir. Kita tak perlu nak sampai tahu siapa sebenarnya Imam Mahdi. Yang penting, kalau kita ikut ajaran Islam, boleh mengucap, jika kita berada pada zamannya, kita akan jadi tenteranya.
Same goes with Dajjal.Kalau kita ikut agama, amalkan baca n faham awal surah Kahfi, kita akan terhindar daripada fitnahnya. Camtu jugak, Iblis dalam Islam tak pernah nak jadi raja dunia, tak ada hadis (setau akula) yang kata Dajjal tu ada pintu dimensilah, kuncilah, ada ejenlah.
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so macam mana kau nak kenal aku kalau kau tak pernah jumpa aku? i-bands?
how? if scentofcarnage dtg kat kau pastu dia salam dan dia cakap "hye , saya jiro.."  macam mana?
tetiba dtg pak arab pakai jubah bawak beg plastik dtg kat kau " assalamualaikum, saya la imam mahdi" ..kalau org lain mesti dah cakap mamat nih gila
ini yg aku cuba sampai kan...macam mana kalau kita nak tahu kalau dalam diri kita sentiasa ada tindakan bongkak, takbur, penting diri sendiri, tindas menindas, terasa diri lebih bagus, sehingga hati kita tak nampak kelemahan dan keperluan org lain.
p/s: sorry la orden, aku bukan nak offense sesiapa mahu pun kau sendiri..but i like this is be more open discussion which if you know something more than any of us please share and elaborate more, dont answer like kindagarden kids. macam;
tak tau macam mana nak selesai kan matrix dalam mathmematik?? GUNAKAN LA KALKULATOR
tak tau jalan nak pegi singapore? TAK PAYAH PERGI, DUDUK RUMAH
tak tau itu? BUKA LA INI
tak tau ini? BUKA LA ITU
nak kenal siapa imam mahdi? BUKA LA AL-Quran
semua org boleh buka dan baca..siapa manusia yg nak tunjukan kan kita utk kita fahami? mmg la bole tanya ulama..kalau ada number phone derang dah lama aku sms atau call..
how if aku jawab kat bahagian audio recording macam tuh? org tanya je..GOOGLE JE LA..ada.. piss off kan?
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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scentofcarnage?... 
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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haha..kantoi..
jiro = scentofcarnage... hehe
masonry semua ni... hahaha
Aku setuju dengan Orden, Jiro & Otai Orange,
Aku tak bagi pendapat dari sudut keagamaan pasal aku jahil...
just to share IMHO,
any information on the internet are easily being manipulated... even in pre-internet era, this kind of issue is seriously ill.
even before freemason's fame, there's a lot of theorist out there trying to scoop out everything, tries to connect every dot and lines...
Please be reminded that we are all humans, we do have our weakness & make mistakes, even how genius you are. We all have our brain, so use it wisely. Process it like a human not a monkey.. ahhaa, not all facts are real (duh!). So not every thins are perfect, os please dont blindly follow something.
Im not implying that what you read is not true. Yes, there is truth being told but what im trying to press out here is MOST OF THE WRITERS IN THIS WORLD TENDS TO GLITTER UP THEIR WRITINGS.
MOST OF IT WOULD BE BEND ACCORDING TO THE WRITER'S LIKE.
For example if i hate Jiro, i would not include his name in my story. Why should I? But im still talking about the truth, it didn't lie. Or i could twist the word and makes jiro looks bad. (like relating him to scentofcarnage).. haha
You could just analyze it yourself by reading the world history itself.
Most of it is does not tally with each other.
So please, when you analyze something, please open up your mind and see it via a lot of perspectives. Because we as a human is not perfect and we need others to correct us.
And if you are wondering? NO, i did not read the link coz i hate the page's interface. haha... eyesore...
Akhir kata membaca amalan mulia, untuk keterbukaan minda,
timbalah ilmu hingga ke negeri china..
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| Jiro |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| jibraun |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Jiro wrote: | aku lah scentofcarnage sebenar wahahahah 
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Wahahahahahaha
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| eniQma |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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highway kebenaran selalu terbentang luas depan mata...
tetapi kita selalu terpilih jalan2 dan lorong2 yg boleh buat kita sesat...
sebenarnya aku tak tau nak mencelah kat mana.... 
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| firslash |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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salam ditujukan kepada I-Banders..
ah...
lama btol x baca forum dlm ni..
akhirnya.. ade gak yg bincang ttg bab mcm ni..
bgs..
bg aku, fakta yg diterangkan dlm link yg diberikan tu xsumenya slh..
ade gak yg btol.. sbb kt sendiri pnh dgr kan, bhwa org yahudi dan nasrani ni sentiasa dan tidak akn berputus asa utk tundukkan kt biar ikut cara hdp diorg wlupn sebesar zarah..
sbb dasar hati manusia yg da lama aku kaji..:
"alah.. sikit je.. lps ni, aku stop la.."
time tu, org yahudi dan nasrani ni da gelakkan kt sehabis mungkin..
then, ia akn berterusan smpi kita sendiri pun xsedar kt da berada dlm kesesatan dunia yg telah nyata ada di dpn mata..
tp, bila kita tersedar atas kesilapan yg dilakukan, kt rase STUCK..
xtau nak buat apa.. dan masa tu la datang para2 "iblis" utk hilangkan segala rase resah dlm hati.. tp, cuma segelintir je yg dpt pulang ke pangkal jalan.. lgpun, mmg btol apa yg Bishop tu ckp..
cuba korg tgk apa yg berlaku skrg.. undang2 kebanyakannya diambil dr mana?? dr Akta yg UN buat.. tp, pada masa zaman Rasul kita dulu, undang2 sume dr Al-Quran dan Hadis.. Cth:
org yg berzina hanya dihukum penjara dan denda..
tp, Tuhan da bgtau, hukuman bg mereka ialah 100 sebatan..
kelakar kan?????
kita mmg lama tersesat sebenarnya..
mmg ada segelintir pihak yg cuba nak smpikan kebenaran..
tp apa yg berlaku, ditolak mentah2..
tp bagus.. sbb mereka da berusaha utk tegakkan apa yg betul..
yg dipanggil kebenaran..
tp, kita yg menolak kebenaran ni la yg tergolong sebagai org Yahudi..
xpercaya?? rase nak maki aku?? sila rujuk kembali Surah Al-Baqarah..
aku nak tanya korg..
brp ramai manusia skrg ni dr kalangan kita yg sentiasa mengikuti ajaran Nabi Muhammad S.A.W.??? jd, sape2 yg rase bertanggungjawab terhdp agamanya, sedarkanlah hati sendiri (termasuk aku) dan manusia disekeliling kt secepat yg mungkin.. aku tau, ssh bg org lain utk menerima kebenaran.. tp, at least, smpikanlah kepada keluarga terdekat korg dulu (sebelum terlambat)..
ttg dia ckp mengenai pencarian rezeki, tu pun korg kena hati2..
apa yg dia ckp tu mmg btol bila aku fikir dgn sedlm yg mungkin..
RIBA.. jgn biarkan anak bini korg (bg yg da berkawen) memkn wlu sesen pun hasil riba tu.. cuba korg fikir blk.. time zaman nabi dulu, ade ke Bank?? negara Islam zaman tu dpt hasil kutipan dr mana?? Cukai, Zakat, Ghanimah, dll.. tp bkn RIBA bank.. jgn smpi nnt bila kt mati, malaikat tanya:
"knp ko mkn riba??" jwb kita: "aku terpaksa, sbb dasar pemerintahan mcm ni.." confirm tersembur daging kita nnt.. sbb dunia yg Tuhan cipta ni luas utk kt cari rezeki..
ttg Dajjal, aku sokong Orden.. amalkan surah Al-Kahfi.. tu la penawar bg mengelak fitnah dan sihir bertalu-talu dr Dajjal.. ingatlah.., tarikh kematian kt mmg da tercatat pada masanya yg telah ditetapkan..
tp, Tuhan bg kita pilih (walhal Dia lebih mengetahui) jalan yg mana kita akn 'pergi'.. Kufur, ataupun Beriman..
P/S:aku bkn ustaz.. ilmu agama pun xtggi.. Al-Quran pun x khatam.. tp, aku kongsi apa yg aku ada dgn korg.. dan aku hrp korg juga mcm tu.. jd, klu ada something yg aku tulis ni slh, aku hrp korg btolkan.. n aku minta maaf klu bahasa yg aku guna tu agak memberi kepedasan.. sori k.. sekian, terima kasih..
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| ETERNAL |
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aku tak percaya sangat teori dengan motif putar belit2...
yang aku tahu... manusia kat dunia ni bermotifkan satu je... NAFSU...
nafsu paling kuat adalah DUIT.. pasal dengan duit.. semua NAFSU2 lain dapat dipenuhi... termasuk GASSS <- haha...
Dari situ terjadi kemusnahan, kebencian, permusuhan, saling menjatuhkan dan lain2 ayat negatif yang korang boleh fikir...
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| firslash |
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| ETERNAL wrote: | | termasuk GASSS <- haha... |
xbleh blah..
hahahaha...
(wlupn btol..)
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| oRden |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Apa yang aku cakap ni step-by-step. General guidance.
Kalau ada orang tanya "bang, fret no 3, tali E ni note ape?", pastu esoknya dia tanya lagi "bang, tali E bawah, fret no 8 tu note ape?", pastu minggu depan lak dia tanya lagi "bang, fret no 22, tali no 3 ni note ape?" nak jawab ape kat dia? Boleh je nak jawab straight satu-satu, tapi lagi membantu kalau first thing bagi dia guidance "Ok kalau ko nak tau note apa kat tali mana, belajar teori muzik bla bla bla"
Then kalau dia tanya "Ok bang, kalau camtu ajarlah saya basic teori muzik" baru ajar dia. kalau dia tak tanya, tapi kita tiba-tiba dok kata "aku leh ajar ko, tapi setiap kali session ko kena bawak 2 botol carlberg besor" sambil gelak2, then orang akan pikir apa bajet otai gile siap gelak2 kan EVH...kan?
Takkan nak kena kasi ikan je..sepatutnya kita bagi pancing.
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| oRden wrote: | Apa yang aku cakap ni step-by-step. General guidance.
Kalau ada orang tanya "bang, fret no 3, tali E ni note ape?", pastu esoknya dia tanya lagi "bang, tali E bawah, fret no 8 tu note ape?", pastu minggu depan lak dia tanya lagi "bang, fret no 22, tali no 3 ni note ape?" nak jawab ape kat dia? Boleh je nak jawab straight satu-satu, tapi lagi membantu kalau first thing bagi dia guidance "Ok kalau ko nak tau note apa kat tali mana, belajar teori muzik bla bla bla"
Then kalau dia tanya "Ok bang, kalau camtu ajarlah saya basic teori muzik" baru ajar dia. kalau dia tak tanya, tapi kita tiba-tiba dok kata "aku leh ajar ko, tapi setiap kali session ko kena bawak 2 botol carlberg besor" sambil gelak2, then orang akan pikir apa bajet otai gile siap gelak2 kan EVH...kan?
Takkan nak kena kasi ikan je..sepatutnya kita bagi pancing. |
Orden.. kalau aku.. kasi penampo jer... boleh? hahaha..
Yeah.. agreed...
The most important thing is how the question being asked... not how is it being answered. thats number 2... LOL
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| salammmm |
| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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scentofcarnage?.....akhirnya ak taw scentofcarnage ni benda apa.....
terima kasih kpd eniqma krn korekkan utk aku....
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