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| deadzid |
 Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Boss ME-70 = RM1200 kot (without adaptor)
dia punya amp simulator aku tak berkenan sgt..
maybe sbb aku tak run thru cab simulator...
so sound mcm gampang la (dgr thru headphones)
kalau direct to amp best la... depends gak..
ntah aku tak sempat explore smua sound...
tweak lebih kurang, jalan!
jemming sejam rm28 - 35 .. so rugi masa setting lama2!
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| thejay91a7x |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ashportal wrote: | Knape kecik kan scope pada boss mfx je? Yg lain pun bagus ape, skrang ni aku terpengaruh dgn line6 HD tu lepas tgk deadzid nyer thread, maybe ko bole consider yg ni, kt CK HD300 tu baru 1200, teknologi latest tu haha. Byk lagi brand2 lain yg aku rase ko kena at least check dulu, ade digitech, vox, korg, zoom  |
fuh..
Line 6 pod hd300 tuh..
Best gila..
Sound metal dia..
Gila best..
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Aku la orgnya yg beli wah wah deadzid tu.. sebenarnya bukan crybaby tapi VOX made in US. Wah Wah tu aku simpan sampai skrg. Aku bawak pi OZ. Aku rasa aku takkan jual itu brg. Dah mod fasel inductor, german caps, tru bypass, led, tambah buffer dgn tambah adapter socket. Asalnya wah tu boleh guna bateri je. Aku akan simpan wah tu sbg tanda kerjasama aku dgn deadzid dlm import mengimport satu masa dulu hahha..
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| thejay91a7x |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | tapi Boss ME-25 tu okay la utk beginner punya multi-efx... harga pon tak semahal POD HD tu.... kat "sudut iklaneka" ada budak nak tolak RM700 kan? baru pakai 4 bulan siap adaptor skali - aku rasa berbaloi la (adaptor saja dah RM100). Note: brand new ME-25 paling murah aku pernah tgk RM730 (without adaptor) -- so pikir sendiri la berbaloi ke tak...
aku ada pegi workshop Boss ME-25 kat The Guitar Store @ Mutiara Damansara ari tu. Basically dia mcm ME-70 gak, tapi lebih compact plus a few features / sound yg takde dlm ME-70 (eg: USB, super stack feature, freeze function)... another thing, dia bleh jadi soundcard so bleh record thru your fav DAW.
Masa kat workshop tu aku mcm dah terpukau, rasa mcm nak beli je ME-25... sib baik masa tu takde sen... yg lagi buat aku hampir terjebak pasal masa workshop tu, Guitar Store bagi offer ME-25 = RM700 je! pastu nasib baik tiba2 aku mcm tersedar dari kena pukau.... terus insaf dan blah dari tempat kejadian hahahaha...
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anyway, citer pasal journey aku dlm multi-efx....
masa awal2 blajar main gitar dulu, aku cuma tau distortion je... tak tau pon ape ke jadah fungsi pedal2 lain tu semua... since masa tu zaman kegemilangan death metal, so aku beli Digitech Death Metal distortion... rasa mcm ini la pedal paling ganaszz di dunia... hahahaha...
pastu nak main lagu metallica / sepultura, kena ada wah pedal pulak... so aku pon angkat la Crybaby-525 (tak ingat model dia, tapi rasanya nombor model dia mcm model motor Virago hahaha).. so 2 efx tu je la yg aku ada sampai satu time tu, ade member offer 2nd hand Zoom 3030... so aku pon angkat la dgn harga RM800.
So dari multi-efx Zoom tu la aku blajar parameter2 bagi setiap modulation efx.. then as time passes by, mcm2 model baru mfx kuar... so ikut peredaran zaman, aku pon upgrade dari satu model ke satu model (tapi semuanya Zoom hehehe)
then yg aku perasan, satu common problem mfx ni - leceh / amek masa nak setup + save sound baru kalau nak sesuai kan dgn amp yg kita nak pakai... biasa la, pegi studio A - pakai amp Marshall, pegi studio X pulak -pakai amp Peavey, etc etc etc... so aku rasa single pedals is the best option...
maka bermula la journey aku terjebak dlm kancah stompbox... aku abis beribu jugak la (beli-jual-beli-jual) sbb nak dpt kan pedal yg sesuai dgn sound aku... last2 aku sedar dari kena pukau .... nak invest dlm single pedal ni mmg makan banyak duit... so aku pon quit.... pakai balik mfx yg simple je....
skarang, aku pakai multiefx Boss ME-70... aku rasa ni la ultimate mfx bagi aku, sbb dia mudah nak setup sound... sbb dia ada knobs utk setiap module (eg: distortion, modulation, compressor, delay, eq / amp simulator)... sgt sesuai utk bawak pegi jamming / perform live sbb boleh setup sound dgn pantas! hahaha...
so saranan aku, try dulu ME-25 (utk main2 kat rumah)... bila dah advance (bila dah ready utk main luar rumah) - upgrade to ME-70! kalau dah super-advance pakai POD HD500!  (tp jgn guna sbg tuner shj - itu kurang hajar nama nya) |
thxx utk advise ni deadzid..
Lgpun..aku mmg bru nak jinak2 main ngan sound nih..
Tp bro..
Aku da dgr pod hd300..
Mak ai..
Sound metal dia..
Caya la..
Tp bro..
Aku nak tnya skit..
Me25 tuh..
Ada booster kan..?
Kalo nak main solo..+ booster..maybe cdap kowt..
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| thejay91a7x wrote: | lg satu..
kita nak pkai effect tone apa nak kasi solo cdap..
maksud aku..
od + delay ke..
hmm..
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aku tak nak komen dari sudut jenis effect. Cuma aku nak bg tau biasanya sound utk solo lebih kuat sedikit dari sound rythm utk kasi kedepan sikit bunyi nya. So mungkin pada mfx ko tu nnt, ko boleh save sound solo kat sebelah sound rythm ko, naikkan volume sikit. Then ikut la suka ko nak tambah delay ke, reverb ke etc. Subjektif tu.
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | Aku la orgnya yg beli wah wah deadzid tu.. sebenarnya bukan crybaby tapi VOX made in US... |
haa.. aku pon lupa dulu aku ade Vox... yg aku jual kat ko tu Vox... sebelum tu aku pakai Crybaby-525 mmg old school (nyesal lak aku jual).. yg Vox tu pon nyesal gak jual sbb dia US made, but since dia takleh pakai adaptor, so aku let go je la tanpa belas kasihan... err true-bypass tu aku yg buat kan? tu la first mod yg aku brani buat hehehe...
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| thejay91a7x wrote: | Tp bro..
Aku nak tnya skit..
Me25 tuh..
Ada booster kan..?
Kalo nak main solo..+ booster..maybe cdap kowt.. |
pasal booster2 ni aku tak brapa mahir sgt...
booster ade mcm2 jenis...
volume boost, gain boost, treble boost, etc ... ape lagi??
biasanya utk solo, aku just add delay skit...
pastu up kan volume dia skit...
dlm ME-70 ade function SOLO kat pedal "COMP" module..
kadang2 pakai fx "Hum > Single" utk dpt tone single coil time solo..
takde la sejibik sound strat, tp boleh la...
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| IZZI |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: |
booster ade mcm2 jenis...
volume boost, gain boost, treble boost, etc ... ape lagi??
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Burram boost...
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| ashportal |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Satu problem yg aku nampak bile guna mfx, nak tweak sound dia konfem pening, pusing knobs sana sini, bace manual xjgak paham2 mcm mane, mula2 dapat terus nak buat sound sendiri, buat2 xdapat soundnye, sampai berpeluh dahi, so jadi bengang and pakai presets je, dan kebiasaan manusia apabila gejala2 ini berlaku akan mengakibatkan kes2 lepas dah beli nak jual balik dah, and later bagi bad review kt mane2 ruangan luahan hati dan perasaan samada forum atau user/review bahawa mfx tersebut tidak bagus, so in the end mfx tersebut kurang mendapat sambutan dan digeruni utk dibeli oleh user (lebih2 lagi user muda/fresh), i think the keyword is to be patience and tweak slow2, eventually u will get the sound u want 
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| ETERNAL |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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just want to share..
pengalaman aku pakai multieffect...
dulu aku suke2 ati jer.. semua knob nak pulas abes..
pastu bile masuk sound pecah.. aku bising2... hahaha...
rupanya pre-amp ni tak boleh over-tweak... kena ala kadar je..
gain tu kalau tak perlu.. jangan pulas abes.. haha...
volume tak semestinya kena no10 je...
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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yup... sgt agree dgn ashportal...
even aku sendiri pakai preset ...
masa tu pakai amp Marshall MG100 dgn cab 4 X 12"
sound ok la... clear, cut thru the mix...
pastu ada satu event BOTB tu...
dia bagi amp Laney Hardcore Max kot...
langsung tak kena dgn setting preset tu...
tapi dgn ME-70 -- tak jadi masalah! 
1) just tekan button "edit"...
2) tweak knobs2 yg sepatutnya...
3) then "save"...
semudah 1 - 2 - 3!
heheheh...
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| ETERNAL |
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| deadzid wrote: | yup... sgt agree dgn ashportal...
even aku sendiri pakai preset ...
masa tu pakai amp Marshall MG100 dgn cab 4 X 12"
sound ok la... clear, cut thru the mix...
pastu ada satu event BOTB tu...
dia bagi amp Laney Hardcore Max kot...
langsung tak kena dgn setting preset tu...
tapi dgn ME-70 -- tak jadi masalah!
1) just tekan button "edit"...
2) tweak knobs2 yg sepatutnya...
3) then "save"...
semudah 1 - 2 - 3!
heheheh... |
Gila riak.. haha..
nanti bawak me70 aku nak test.. hhehe
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| deadzid |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ETERNAL wrote: | Gila riak.. haha..
nanti bawak me70 aku nak test.. hhehe |
boleh... dgn syarat, mlm ni ko hantar aku balik Sg Buloh...
hehehe...
eh jap, korang jemming brapa jam??
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| thejay91a7x |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| IZZI wrote: | | thejay91a7x wrote: | lg satu..
kita nak pkai effect tone apa nak kasi solo cdap..
maksud aku..
od + delay ke..
hmm..
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aku tak nak komen dari sudut jenis effect. Cuma aku nak bg tau biasanya sound utk solo lebih kuat sedikit dari sound rythm utk kasi kedepan sikit bunyi nya. So mungkin pada mfx ko tu nnt, ko boleh save sound solo kat sebelah sound rythm ko, naikkan volume sikit. Then ikut la suka ko nak tambah delay ke, reverb ke etc. Subjektif tu. |
so pkai booster pun leh kan bro izzi..?
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| thejay91a7x |
| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| deadzid wrote: | yup... sgt agree dgn ashportal...
even aku sendiri pakai preset ...
masa tu pakai amp Marshall MG100 dgn cab 4 X 12"
sound ok la... clear, cut thru the mix...
pastu ada satu event BOTB tu...
dia bagi amp Laney Hardcore Max kot...
langsung tak kena dgn setting preset tu...
tapi dgn ME-70 -- tak jadi masalah!
1) just tekan button "edit"...
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tweak knobs2 yg sepatutnya...
3) then "save"...
semudah 1 - 2 - 3!
heheheh... |
apa beza plak me 25 ngan me 70..
Yg aku tau..
Me70 lg bsar dari 25..
Then 25 lagi latest pengeluaranya..
Kan2..
Then kalo dari segi sound effect..
70 lg byk effect yew dari 25..?
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| IZZI wrote: | | thejay91a7x wrote: | lg satu..
kita nak pkai effect tone apa nak kasi solo cdap..
maksud aku..
od + delay ke..
hmm..
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aku tak nak komen dari sudut jenis effect. Cuma aku nak bg tau biasanya sound utk solo lebih kuat sedikit dari sound rythm utk kasi kedepan sikit bunyi nya. So mungkin pada mfx ko tu nnt, ko boleh save sound solo kat sebelah sound rythm ko, naikkan volume sikit. Then ikut la suka ko nak tambah delay ke, reverb ke etc. Subjektif tu. |
psl ini tip la aku menang battle of the band lagu fade to black. hahahaha. ko igt x izzy
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