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| asifadio |
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| Jiro wrote: | at least kalau tanya for Mixing lar... get the best converter yg AI/SC can give..
Sound Blaster obviously akan blaster kan kau punya sound hahaha.. SOundblaster purposely for multimedia like games and sort stuff watchin movie, enhance your stereo surround output.
It not good for recording as lack of the buffer solution, not good pre-amp, LAME converter, maybe not good in sample rate?
i dont know much la but it not something a standard engineer would suggest.
but if u asking asking something supercheap without consider want to invest much and just want to play play around..go ahead..dont blame anyone if u dont like it  |
so kalau toneport UX2 ok la kan brader jiro?
sample rate yang biasa ntuk dapat quality ok minimun berapa ya??
toneport UX2 leh provide?
paling ok dan harga standard? i mean PCI card bukan dari AI?
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Ur welcome Asif
I think the Toneport can get you professional results. I've mixed projects that were done on Toneport and they sounded fine.
Just stick with 24bit 44.1kHz sampling rate for now.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| Mixboy2105 wrote: | Ur welcome Asif
I think the Toneport can get you professional results. I've mixed projects that were done on Toneport and they sounded fine.
Just stick with 24bit 44.1kHz sampling rate for now. |
oh ok JD.. i could hear a different from my laptop soundcard(cap ayam one hehe) and from Toneport.. it is better..
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That's great. As time goes by and you gain experience, you'll begin to hear more differences. For starters, work with what you have and devote your attention to getting sources sounding good. It will make mixing a lot easier. Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Mixboy2105 wrote: | | That's great. As time goes by and you gain experience, you'll begin to hear more differences. For starters, work with what you have and devote your attention to getting sources sounding good. It will make mixing a lot easier. Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have. |
yeah.. i could 'see' now.. not much but better than before.. hehe.. i just don't quite understand with-
'Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have.'
what i guess(from ur advice) is that the mixing is to brighter up the sound but not to change it.. and change should be done in recording session.. am i right??
i don't know if my translation is right or not, but if it was the same, it is really
 and answered my plenty of question before
thanks a lot siffu
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| asifadio wrote: | | Mixboy2105 wrote: | | That's great. As time goes by and you gain experience, you'll begin to hear more differences. For starters, work with what you have and devote your attention to getting sources sounding good. It will make mixing a lot easier. Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have. |
yeah.. i could 'see' now.. not much but better than before.. hehe.. i just don't quite understand with-
'Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have.'
what i guess(from ur advice) is that the mixing is to brighter up the sound but not to change it.. and change should be done in recording session.. am i right??
i don't know if my translation is right or not, but if it was the same, it is really
and answered my plenty of question before
thanks a lot siffu |
what he trying to say is, do get what you want dari masa recording lagi, jgn record cincai boncai pastuh masa mixing nak fix mana yg tak best...contoh cam penyanyi nyanyi salah masa recording, so jgn la ada pemikiran "owhhh takpe, nih boleh aku fix masa mixing" tak moh macam itu kawan... GOOD INPUT GOOD OUTPUT 
but for me yg agak lain skit, aku byk belajar dari fix masa mixing, well kata pun nak belajar kan...but after all mmg betul pun apa yg JD kata kan, i learn much from mistakes if not kita tak dpt plak telinga yg lebih sensitive masa buat EQ lebih kurang macam tuh la...apa yg kita buat kita pasti dapat pelajaran, tak dengar ckp mak ayah pun kita dapat pengajaran kan? hahaha
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Mixing is incredibly hard to define...
It is of course essentially about balance of parts within a recording that helps bring out the fullest potential of the song production. On that note, it has got nothing to with EQ,compressors, reverbs and all the gear that we normally associate with mixing.
If you were ever so lucky to get hold of a 2" master tape of a successful hit song; and lay it out on a console, zero the faders and set panpots - I can guarantee that it will sound almost exactly like the final mix.
What this means, that if you aim to record with good sounds, there ought not need to be any thing needed to be done to the track at the mixing stage. It automatically sounds like a finished record.
Ideally that is...
Of course, with modern multitracking techniques and the proliferation of cheaper gear, sometimes these tracks need "a little help". It is only then, when the need arises that we reach for an EQ knob/compressor setting.
Yes, sometimes, you do have to "fix in the mix", especially if its a bad recording. I guarantee it will be a very challenging experience and a good learning one as well.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Jiro wrote: | | asifadio wrote: | | Mixboy2105 wrote: | | That's great. As time goes by and you gain experience, you'll begin to hear more differences. For starters, work with what you have and devote your attention to getting sources sounding good. It will make mixing a lot easier. Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have. |
yeah.. i could 'see' now.. not much but better than before.. hehe.. i just don't quite understand with-
'Don't try to fix things in the mix, as it will almost never turn our sounding as good as it could have.'
what i guess(from ur advice) is that the mixing is to brighter up the sound but not to change it.. and change should be done in recording session.. am i right??
i don't know if my translation is right or not, but if it was the same, it is really
and answered my plenty of question before
thanks a lot siffu |
what he trying to say is, do get what you want dari masa recording lagi, jgn record cincai boncai pastuh masa mixing nak fix mana yg tak best...contoh cam penyanyi nyanyi salah masa recording, so jgn la ada pemikiran "owhhh takpe, nih boleh aku fix masa mixing" tak moh macam itu kawan... GOOD INPUT GOOD OUTPUT
but for me yg agak lain skit, aku byk belajar dari fix masa mixing, well kata pun nak belajar kan...but after all mmg betul pun apa yg JD kata kan, i learn much from mistakes if not kita tak dpt plak telinga yg lebih sensitive masa buat EQ lebih kurang macam tuh la...apa yg kita buat kita pasti dapat pelajaran, tak dengar ckp mak ayah pun kita dapat pengajaran kan? hahaha |
pasti di analisis, so, first thing time record jgn la sengaja wat cincai2.. try wat betul2 then kalau ade baru terpaksa la fix dalam mixing..
sebb aku tgh try2 wat recording2 aku yang record tak bape nak betul.. kat situ baru ler nampak EQ, dynamics etc..
thanks2 senior jiro.. hehe
hahaha kalau dulu orang panggil pengajaran melalui tamparan dan rotan.. hehe
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| Mixboy2105 wrote: | Mixing is incredibly hard to define...
It is of course essentially about balance of parts within a recording that helps bring out the fullest potential of the song production. On that note, it has got nothing to with EQ,compressors, reverbs and all the gear that we normally associate with mixing.
If you were ever so lucky to get hold of a 2" master tape of a successful hit song; and lay it out on a console, zero the faders and set panpots - I can guarantee that it will sound almost exactly like the final mix.
What this means, that if you aim to record with good sounds, there ought not need to be any thing needed to be done to the track at the mixing stage. It automatically sounds like a finished record.
Ideally that is...
Of course, with modern multitracking techniques and the proliferation of cheaper gear, sometimes these tracks need "a little help". It is only then, when the need arises that we reach for an EQ knob/compressor setting.
Yes, sometimes, you do have to "fix in the mix", especially if its a bad recording. I guarantee it will be a very challenging experience and a good learning one as well. |
now i get it when u say 'in term of sonic quality'(i don't know if u remember it or not).. recording are crucial for records.. it is like tracking drum using MIDI controller(by VST) and then try to fix it to be the same as real acoustic drum recording.. which is it could not be achieved 100% as we want it to be.. is my terminology right JD??
yeah, i been try to fix my poor recording.. i don't even dare yet to let anyone listen to my mix.. hehe..
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