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firslash
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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crap gear x hanya bermakna pd harga..
tp pd kualiti brgn tersebut..

cth: (aku agak berfikir pjg utk bg cth sbb risau akn disaman klu disebut nama pengeluar brngn tersebut..)

ada 1 company automotif ni keluarkan brgn instrument.. (pepaham la ye company apa..) konon sbb brgn automotif dia bagus, berkualiti, then dia keluarkan pulak instrument - gitar, called YangMahal Arji / Pasifik (ni cth je k..) then, bila brg tu keluar utk dijual, harga pulak mencanak mengalahkan gitar2 second std a.k.a., epiphone, squier, craftman, gio, cort, n etc.. tp, kt yg kononnya ingat brg tu bagus dr segi keselesaan neck, kestabilan tremolo n tune, endurance pickup, n sbginya sbb harganya yg mahal dan namanya gah dlm industri automotif, rupanya hanya BAJET BAGUS je dr segi kualiti pembuatan instrument.. pdhal xsbgs gitar yg lbh murah drpd brand YangMahal Arji / Pasifik tu seperti squier n etc.. so, itu aku kategorikan sbgi CRAP.. sng kata, SAMPAH..

xpyh la konon wallet tebal, beli brg yg korg tgk KONONNYA MACAM BAGUS sbb harga mahal, pdhal KUALITI MACAM BABI, korg nak angkat.. lupakan je la.. last2 nnt, pki xsmpi 3 bln, 6 bln, 1 thn, da ada pulak iklan kat Mudah.. apa cer?? pdhal kononnya sblm beli, korg rase tu MACAM BEST.. siap da try kat kedai pulak tu.. itu yg korg kata korg puas hati thdp kualiti brg tu?? gi hantok je la pale kat dinding.. klu btol puas hati, xdenya nak jual blk bang... unless hal emergency, tu mmg bleh caya la.. gajet murahan aku, AX5G yg second hand tu pun, aku still guna smpi skrg.. tu la yg aku bwk gi live perform, battle band, jamming, n praktis.. klu adik aku nak guna bawak gi jamming pun, aku bg dia Zoom yg bru aku beli.. even Korg tu brg murah, tp aku syg brg tu..

sbb tu bila aku nak beli brg second hand ni, aku tanya dulu habis2:
"jual sbb apa?
kondition mcm mana?
main muzik da brp lama?
power ke x power main?
bila beli brg ni?
bleh test dulu x sblm beli?"

klu dia rase xnak jwb, n nak jual kat org lain sbb takut aku tau brg tu cuma MAHAL tapi quality SAMPAH, pegi mampos la.. aku pedulik apa? aku rugi apa? setakat SMS 10sen - 20sen nak kisah apa drpd aku rugi RM600-RM700??

worth it???? so, think about it... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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well sbb tuh kene tuka perspective.. better to be good player with a good gear..

i mean macam fir cakap pasal korg dia... dia sendiri kata (aku tatau la but aku just asume bende tuh in affordable price) tapi do a good job...so it is a good gear after all la kan..

so how come it is better when u using a crap gear? i mean come on, what is crap if you can use it with good result..seems it still good kan?

well for me, bukan la nak cakap aku kaya, (boleh tanya eternal betapa miskin nya aku) but aku tak kesah spend duit on something yg aku boleh handle...for what aku beli cheap thing if aku tak reti nak handle kan? macam kereta gak, manual dan auto, kita tau perbezaan price dia..tapi aku tak reti bawa manual, so mesti aku ambik yg memudah kan aku. tapi kalau benda yg aku nak tuh mmg dah cheap, alhamdullilah sgt la kan, why need to argue more.

plus aku mmg menyampah org cakap jari jemari lebih penting dari gear...come on..aku bagi pick up yg mmg crap gila babi punya kang..at the end still kata pups rosak la apa la..so no such thing as that.

dan 2nd reasons aku menyampah is...jgn la nak off mode org nak talk about gear.. playing and gearing is obviously 2 different subject. nak talk about playing, pegi buka subject playing, nak talk about gear, come lets talk. nih org duk tgh hype borak pasal gear, tap tap potong macam bagus..

macam dalam recording gak la..ada org kata, recording nih, bergantung pada player semata mata..pala butuh hang, giliran hang plak hantuk pale kat dinding, kang jap lagi bagi rec pakai mic yg karaoke, salah kan engineer plak sound tak kene dgn apa yg dia nak.

so there is a reasons sometime the price is high, the maker know what exactly what we want at the end spec, macam org cakap, nak record rm300 kita bagi la rm300 punya sound. but itu dalam perspective recording lah.

and some people are passionate collector who want to test alot of gear without matter about how big the price is...come on, the value is not the gear we buy, but the experience upon the exploration.


tapi tak semesti nya bila puas hati tak jual balik...some like to keep, some like to let it go. its so not wrong about it, so tayah la hentak pale kat dinding hanya sbb org berfikiran bila puas hati tak payah jual balik. barang korang, korang beli, korang punya suka nak jual balik atau nak lingkup kan terus. No body can stop u or have the right ideal to provoke if you do it.


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sbb tu bila aku nak beli brg second hand ni, aku tanya dulu habis2:
"jual sbb apa?
kondition mcm mana?
main muzik da brp lama?
power ke x power main?
bila beli brg ni?
bleh test dulu x sblm beli?"



fir...kau terlupa soalan fav last sekali yg setiap kali mesti ada hahah "bro, best price? boleh kurang lagi??" Razz hahaha
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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haaa... mcm tu la citenya ttg crap gear td..
cuma bg aku, klu mmg aku puas hati dgn apa yg aku beli,
then aku akn guna smpi brg tu jahanam..
(xtau mengambil masa brp lama.. bgntung pd cara penggunaan)
if u really want to explore, knp x cek drpd internet? cek review?
or pinjam dr member2 yg ada brg tu?
bkn nak ckp aku ni kedekut nak kuar duit or apa..
just klu bleh, kt cuba utk lbh cermat & teliti..
think about priority first.. kot2 kt t'lps pndg utk beli something yg lbh pntg.
worth it??
(hahaha.. aku da suke pulak guna word ni.. sy pinjam ye bang ET..)

ahahaha..
ttg soalan last skali tu.. btol gak tu.. lupa bubuh..
tp, tgk gak la.. klu aku tgk harga asal dia mmg mahal,
then dia letak harga yg mmg berpatutan dgn harga brg secondhand
with its specs & condition, then dia siap dtg tmpt aku COD,
aku test2, sume ok menepati citarase, terus angkat je la..
bg aku, worth dgn apa yg aku byr wlupun aku xmintak best price..
maybe mmg la ada baki maybe lbh dlm RM5-RM10 keuntungan dia..
tp, biar je la sbb klu kira blk dr segi kos masa, tenaga, n wang minyak,
sbnrnya advantage pd kt.. (lbh2 lg harga minyak da naik)
yeah.. it is worth...

TAPI JANGAN KATA AKU XPNH MINTAK BEST PRICE PULAK K..
aku xpnh lupa mintak best price pd brg2 first hand..
sbb aku tau, harga kos diaorg brp ciput je drpd markup brg2 tu..
don't worry.. it is worth to ask for a best price from the laoban..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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if u really want to explore, knp x cek drpd internet? cek review?
or pinjam dr member2 yg ada brg tu?


kalau cek review dari internet...takde beza dgn membaca kat i-band...dok dgr ckp org je..AT THE YG KONON OTAI NIH PUN SURUH "Kalau nak tau beli dan test la"... plus kat internet official video demo selalu dah di record dgn the best quality, so u wont get much know how live kalau kau play... plus kalau test kat kedai pulak, mmg la amp besar, tapi takkan nak test sorang je? dia nak kene tau fx tuh fit in tak dgn band..sedap ke tak dari pandangan band mate lain...maklum la..band saya bukan nak syok sorang2...nak pinjam member pun, derang bukan nya mewah anak menteri semua benda ada.. yg dpt pinjam, pinjam...tapi selalu nye benda yg aku nak try tuh mmg derang takde..sbb kalau benda yg takat kebanyakan jual kat kedai nih, 5 tahun dulu dah habes test semua, barangan yg rare tuh yg nak test kene la beli...sbb mmg worth it, even do rugi, walau tak memiliki nya, tetap puas, nothing is more priority dari tempat tinggal, makan minum dan pakaian. yg lain tuh cuma kehendak je, setiap manusia kehendak memasing, tak perlu bersungguh sgt nak suruh org dgr cakap kita.

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Jiro wrote:
AT THE YG KONON OTAI NIH PUN SURUH "Kalau nak tau beli dan test la"


ahahahaha...
yg ni, aku no komen..
klu aku bukak mulut besar2, silap2 aku di BANNED dari I-BAND.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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soalan dia --> ''sesuai ke guna multiefx utk live show?''


jawapan dia --> ''sesuai''






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hahahaha...
sungguh berkembang thread ini...
sampai ada dua mazhab...
siap cerita pasal jual beli barang...

haha... bagi aku good or bad instruments ni akan kasi tambah point kat korang... (macam Scott Pilgrims VS The World).. skill, creativity, consistency

katakan si shreader punya skill point korang ada 100 point... tiba2 dikasinya nya bagak punya neck... sudah tolak 20 point... dapat pulak pickup tak hot... turun lagi.. last2 tinggal 50 point je...
so.. instrument yang bagus sedikit sebanyak membantu ada memberi full potential dalam permainan anda...
tetapi kalau skill point anda ada 10 point je... pakai la barang mahal mane pun.. tak leh blah gak...

p/s: hebat mane pun korang main... kalau gitar ada problem . asyik i tune je... macam mana nak main consistent? hehehe
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back to the real topic

guna la mfx...ada tuner...itu yg aku paling suke sebenar nya hahah

jgn salah setting tuner sudah ahahha
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Jiro wrote:
back to the real topic

guna la mfx...ada tuner...itu yg aku paling suke sebenar nya hahah

jgn salah setting tuner sudah ahahha


bagus2... ada unsur sinis kritis disitu.. teruskan usaha anda Laughing

aku pun suka multi effect... tapi tanak sebijik... kasi pecah2 banyak..
satu je mana puas... multieffect untuk compressor sebijik.. untuk drive sebijik.. untuk delay sebijik.. chorus sebijik.. baru la otai... hahaha
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ETERNAL wrote:
Jiro wrote:
back to the real topic

guna la mfx...ada tuner...itu yg aku paling suke sebenar nya hahah

jgn salah setting tuner sudah ahahha


bagus2... ada unsur sinis kritis disitu.. teruskan usaha anda Laughing

aku pun suka multi effect... tapi tanak sebijik... kasi pecah2 banyak..
satu je mana puas... multieffect untuk compressor sebijik.. untuk drive sebijik.. untuk delay sebijik.. chorus sebijik.. baru la otai... hahaha


itu bukan otai...itu DEWA dah nama nya hahaha pedal board besar keranda hahahah

ETERNAL : video jamming hari tuh haha kelakar hahah
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aku dgr citer ader yg head baNGING DKT NK CRASH HEAD TO HEAD/CAB?
MST MUTIFX penyebab utama,

mean kt stage kr ader pendorong untuk perform more better
(ayat untuk elak sepam)
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salammmm wrote:
soalan dia --> ''sesuai ke guna multiefx utk live show?''


jawapan dia --> ''sesuai''







jawapan plg tepat..
case closed..
hhahahahaha...
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kira dah boleh lock la thread ni ye tak? Laughing
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aku tgk i-bands ni dh mcm mudah.my je


tanya2 ''gitar apa best''....''multiefx ape yg best''


then dah dpt jawapan...pegi cari barang..pastu dah x masuk sini
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aku tengok i-bands macam mee kung fu kalau perot aku lapaq...
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