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asthrophils
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Alat apa yg paling sesuai untuk recording sambil blablabla Reply with quote



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Salam...nak mintak pandangan i-banders yg lebih arif, hensem, bijak menabung serta baik budi pekerti.

Aku teringin nak main gitar sambil layan lagu kegemaran pastu jamming sekali lagu tu..lagu tu pulak blh main plug pakai usb drive je..pastu..eh boleh pulak record 2-3 track

Ada cadangan tak apa alat yg paling sesuai untuk dibeli...kalau semua dalam satu lagi la ngam..macam amplifier ke(ada ke jenis camni?)kalau dulu. dlm awal 90an.aku pernah ada satu M brand singapore punya lupa dah nama apa..dia ada siap dua tempat kaset..dulu2 layan kaset je kan..pastu record je lah kat kaset tu..pastu nak jamming lagu pon pasang je kaset tu..zaman sekarang pulak apa alat yg sesuai?mintak tolong la sangat supaya dapat aku merealisasikan impian yg mengada2 aku ni..terima kasih


macam ni la lebih kurang rupa aku punya yg dulu tu..tapi yg ni kira canggih sikit.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sedang memandang ko
(tadi mintak pandangan kan?)

twahahaha

tp serius lee
aku tak paham ape yg cuba ko sampaikan...
cuba ko tulis dalam bahasa yg lebih mudah...

huhu
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: Alat apa yg paling sesuai untuk recording sambil blablab Reply with quote



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asthrophils wrote:
Salam...nak mintak pandangan i-banders yg lebih arif, hensem, bijak menabung serta baik budi pekerti.



tanya putra arif...dia maha arif...
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Jiro
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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beli behringer guitar port.

install guitar rig

install cubase sx

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cucuk guitar melalui behringer guitar port ke usb computer

buka guitar rig

buka cubase, masuk kan lagu yg nak di jamming kan.

play along, kalau nak record, tekan record Smile
(make sure set kat cubase boleh share driver asio)

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atau, beli toneport paling murah

install pod farm atau gear box

install cubase sx, nak ringan lagi, install reaper.

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atau beli terus zoom r16 macam Eternal punya, boleh terus record in device Smile


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ooo...dari ape yg jiro ckp tu baru aku paham...

yes...pakai guitar rig jer...

kat sudut iklaneka ada jual Guitar interface, en. sardineXP jual...aku penah pakai, ok jer...tp aku pakai yg behringer, yg en. sardine jual xde brand rasa nya..tp mcm sama jer hahah
(siot aku beli mahal 100, haramzade sungguh huhu)

huhu btw jiro dah tak promot sonar...agak menarik nih!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Alat apa yg paling sesuai untuk recording sambil blablab Reply with quote



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asthrophils wrote:
Salam...nak mintak pandangan i-banders yg lebih arif, hensem, bijak menabung serta baik budi pekerti.

Aku teringin nak main gitar sambil layan lagu kegemaran pastu jamming sekali lagu tu..lagu tu pulak blh main plug pakai usb drive je..pastu..eh boleh pulak record 2-3 track

Ada cadangan tak apa alat yg paling sesuai untuk dibeli...kalau semua dalam satu lagi la ngam..macam amplifier ke(ada ke jenis camni?)kalau dulu. dlm awal 90an.aku pernah ada satu M brand singapore punya lupa dah nama apa..dia ada siap dua tempat kaset..dulu2 layan kaset je kan..pastu record je lah kat kaset tu..pastu nak jamming lagu pon pasang je kaset tu..zaman sekarang pulak apa alat yg sesuai?mintak tolong la sangat supaya dapat aku merealisasikan impian yg mengada2 aku ni..terima kasih



bro.........kalau ko nak record try pakai zoom G2Nu sebab ko cakap ko nak yg ade usb punyer.........tapi kena ade laptop/ pc.........output dia amp / speaker.....kalau ade budget lebih skit beli Zoom G2.1Nu lagi cun................kalau ade budget lagi maut trus angkat Zoom ZFX Plug-In.............yg ni mcm2 ade...............mcm benda bole sambung.............tapi yg ni aku tak pernah try.................... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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promote cubase sx sudah...ringan, kang promote sonar x1...pening kepala dia nak configure camne nak guna Very Happy

beli pod x3 live pun ok...mfx combo with recording device Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jiro wrote:
promote cubase sx sudah...ringan, kang promote sonar x1...pening kepala dia nak configure camne nak guna Very Happy

beli pod x3 live pun ok...mfx combo with recording device Smile


kalao dia pakai sonar, mesti dia cari ko punya....
Jiro sensei!

haha


btw asthrophils
best jugak pakai kaset tu...
analog tu...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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eniQma - Terima kasih utk pandangan cute tu..serius aku pon tak berapa nak paham apa aku tulis..tapi lepas jiro reply tu ko dah paham kan?

salammmm - harap2 dia masuk sini..boleh tanya dia kan

jiro - kalau beli yg takde brand ok tak..dia asalkan device utk menghubungkan gitar dgn pc je kan? tak perlu la kualiti yg bagus sgt kan?kan?kan?

pastu install guitar rig software or cubase? maksud jiro option atau kedua2nya sekali?

ok cara dia dah paham..guitar rig tu ada option untuk composed music sendiri tak? lepas tu ada baca kat wiki...dia ada macam2 effect kat situ..so sound effect tu ala2 je ke or mmg ngam..kira nak buat demo mmg best?
kalau kita ada gitar je...ada tak instrument lain kat situ mcm sax, fluit, accordian ke?
lepas tu kalau pakai speaker pc je boleh ke tahan sound gitar tu..sorry la soalan mmg tak boleh blah..ni mmg tak tau benda ni ehehe..saya ada m speaker..nak cucuk tang mana pulak dari pc tu..dari output speaker tu la agaknya kan?


toneport tu murah ke..kalau boleh jgn la mahal sgt..ari tu pegi tgk dekat Ck music ..cuba naks selesaikan masalah ni..jumpa zoom zoom G2.1Nu ..nampak mcm menarik pulak..siap boleh cucuk usb bagai..serba salah nak beli..ye la aku ni jenis tak tau ape2..takut tak berbaloi pulak...memandangkan harga dia pon boleh tahan rabak jugak..lepas tu call budak guitar store tu dia ckp kualiti zoom tak berapa bagus..tapi dia sendiri cadangkan kalau nak beli jenis2 zoom...beli kat Ck tu jugak sbb kedai tu paling murah katanya..so kalau dia punya suggest dia ckp boss ME 25 & 70 paling ngam..betul ke..tapi buat masa ni tak blh lagi la...rasa sayang duit...kalau jiro or kawan2 lain ada nak tolak benda2 yg aku maksudkan ni murah2 punya cakapla ye.

jiro..pod x3 live tak mampu lagilah buat masa ni Smile

eniQma - dekat Ck pon ada jual..tgh fikir ni mana lagi ngam..zoom tu ke atau usb device tu je..tapi dlm masa yg sama sayang duit Smile


budsmoker - ya zoom G2.1Nu sgt2lah menarik..yg lain2 tu maybe bukan masanya lagi kot...budget tinggi sgt..apa2 tq untuk cadangan yg best tu

eniQma - semestinya cari dia..dan korang2 jugak...haha betull...pakai kaset dulu senang sikit...simple je..fuhlamak N.W.A tu..ayeng maideng sekali
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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guitar rig adalah software VSTi utk guitar... dalam software tuh ada module dan sampler utk sound sound guitar dari amp , cab dan pedal fx..

cubase ada DAW (digital audio work)..software ni di mana kita buat kerja nak record semua tuh..

kedua dua nih mmg kene install..sbb cubase utk kau record dan guitar rig adalah software yg nak kuar kan bunyi guitar tu.

kau nak buat recording biasa je la? cam memain hobby suka suka record pastu dengar balik?

so aku suggest beli toneport ux1 atau toneport GX.. toneport ux1 2nd hand dalam harga rm400 ke bawah. silap hari bulan boleh dapat sgt murah.

so cucuk bende alah tuh kat usb pc..install la dia punya driver dan software yg di beri

kalau toneport dia ada kasi gearbox, lebih kurang macam guitar rig, cuma dia hanya boleh di guna kan oleh toneport dan line6 punya product

personally aku mmg syor kan toneport sbb gearbox punya sound lebih best dari guitar rig, tak berapa nak kartun. personal oppinion je. lagi pun mudah nak di guna kan dan senang pakai. dan boleh guna utk bass sekali. juga ada port utk guna mic (tapi dynamic mic sahaja, toneport takde support phantom power utk condenser)

kalau kau nak masuk kan sound lain macam drum, sax, dan sebagai nya...kene lah cari VSTi itu instrument itu. mcm drum boleh pakai ezd atau addictive drum.

kalau kau nak bebetul murah...aku rasa itu pilihan terbaik..sbb dia nya driver bagus, plus mmg dia di reka utk memudah kan kerja recording, ada built-in asio...which tidak la kau terasa hancur bila setiap kali nak recording ada latency yg ketara. plus dia nya converter is better to compare with behringer usb port.

zoom aku tak tau sgt...but dari sample dan review yg aku tgk dan try sikit sikit...agak cam tak best bunyi dia dan agak merumit kan juga.

nak pakai speaker apa pun boleh...if kalau saje saje suka la..but macam biasa la..in recording monitor speaker is the best..tapi up to you..tak jadi penghalang. speaker dia nanti cucuk la kat output device yg kau beli (zoom, toneport, itu semua AI) audio interface.

rasa nya better kau check kat segment audio recording..aku ada tulis panjang lebar how to start recording

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jadi mmg kena install dua2 la ek..pastu apsal kartun plaks...guitar rig punya sound tak best ke..cam kartun?
tone port..kat Ck ade ke?nanti aku try tanya la...kalau ada org tolak kat sini lagi cantik..tapi aku ada dengar org ckp m-audio best..ok ke m-audio tu?tapi harga dia mahal la pulak.

Ya la..zoom mmg rumit sikit la aku tgk nak adjust dia tu complicated sgt..tapi sekali imbas mana nak tau kan...ok aku dah baca thread jiro bagi tu...perlukan masa sikit utk paham..tapi mmg best la tutorial tu..cuma lambat sikit nak pick up utk org2 mcm aku..terima kasih jiro dan kawan2 yg lain..kalau aku dah beli & start record...pastu ada masalh..aku refer kat korang balik eh..Smile
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jadi mmg kena install dua2 la ek..pastu apsal kartun plaks...guitar rig punya sound tak best ke..cam kartun?
tone port..kat Ck ade ke?nanti aku try tanya la...kalau ada org tolak kat sini lagi cantik..tapi aku ada dengar org ckp m-audio best..ok ke m-audio tu?tapi harga dia mahal la pulak.

Ya la..zoom mmg rumit sikit la aku tgk nak adjust dia tu complicated sgt..tapi sekali imbas mana nak tau kan...ok aku dah baca thread jiro bagi tu...perlukan masa sikit utk paham..tapi mmg best la tutorial tu..cuma lambat sikit nak pick up utk org2 mcm aku..terima kasih jiro dan kawan2 yg lain..kalau aku dah beli & start record...pastu ada masalh..aku refer kat korang balik eh..Smile



m-audio mmg best...tapi model yg best tuh harga dia pun best..

kau minta benda yg mudah nak di faham kan...so aku perkenalkan la sometime yg mudah utk memula belajar..senang paham..dan di dalam range berkemampuan.

bila dah biasa nanti...pakai apa pun best bila kita tahu guna kelebihan device yg kita beli tuh nanti, tak kira apa brand pun Smile
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phils...aku dulu pakai behringer guitar link jer. huhu kalau ko just nak try dgn gaya yg ber-ekonomi, try beli yg tu dulu...beli jer guitar link yg sama tp takde brand dalam 120 mcm tu...utk belajar setting2 paham2 ape yg patut...pastu slow2 la upgred...skrg aku pon pakai M-Audio...best, tp kalau baru nak start pening sikit...aku pon tgh blajar lagi huhu
well sume sama jer..terpulang pada individu..brand tak penting, yg penting abilty device tu..

bile ko start da kompos lagu ko..masa tu la ko rasa nak GASSSSSSSSSSS hahah
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Jiro wrote:
asthrophils wrote:
jadi mmg kena install dua2 la ek..pastu apsal kartun plaks...guitar rig punya sound tak best ke..cam kartun?
tone port..kat Ck ade ke?nanti aku try tanya la...kalau ada org tolak kat sini lagi cantik..tapi aku ada dengar org ckp m-audio best..ok ke m-audio tu?tapi harga dia mahal la pulak.

Ya la..zoom mmg rumit sikit la aku tgk nak adjust dia tu complicated sgt..tapi sekali imbas mana nak tau kan...ok aku dah baca thread jiro bagi tu...perlukan masa sikit utk paham..tapi mmg best la tutorial tu..cuma lambat sikit nak pick up utk org2 mcm aku..terima kasih jiro dan kawan2 yg lain..kalau aku dah beli & start record...pastu ada masalh..aku refer kat korang balik eh..Smile



m-audio mmg best...tapi model yg best tuh harga dia pun best..

kau minta benda yg mudah nak di faham kan...so aku perkenalkan la sometime yg mudah utk memula belajar..senang paham..dan di dalam range berkemampuan.

bila dah biasa nanti...pakai apa pun best bila kita tahu guna kelebihan device yg kita beli tuh nanti, tak kira apa brand pun Smile


betullah tu jiro..aku ingat nak try guitar link tu je dulu..skrg takde masa nak godek hal gitar..banyak kerja..terima kasih banyak jiro dan kawan2 lain utk informasi2 yg berguna ni..link yg jiro bagi tu mmg banyak aku boleh belajar kat situ

eniQma wrote:
phils...aku dulu pakai behringer guitar link jer. huhu kalau ko just nak try dgn gaya yg ber-ekonomi, try beli yg tu dulu...beli jer guitar link yg sama tp takde brand dalam 120 mcm tu...utk belajar setting2 paham2 ape yg patut...pastu slow2 la upgred...skrg aku pon pakai M-Audio...best, tp kalau baru nak start pening sikit...aku pon tgh blajar lagi huhu
well sume sama jer..terpulang pada individu..brand tak penting, yg penting abilty device tu..

bile ko start da kompos lagu ko..masa tu la ko rasa nak GASSSSSSSSSSS hahah


ok nanti aku beli yg tu..betullah tu...pelan2 kayuh belajar yg basic2 dulu kan?susah ek pakai m-audio tu..esok2 aku dah pandai sikit pastu ada pulak sen..mmg aku sambar la..ahaha mmg tak sabar nak try..memangggg..sekarang belum tau apa2 lagi pon dah gas macam2 dah ni..Smile
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good thread. Very Happy
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